Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread cyclotourist
Hi Christian, I'm half-way kicking myself for not getting one of these from the last round. Might have messed up there... Anyway, Cowchippers are currently in my Jenson cart, although trying to make Woodchippers work. I'm wonding how you find the feel of the CCs singletrack? The WCs are great(!) t

Re: [RBW] Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

2015-07-31 Thread cyclotourist
I recommend Jim W's Delivery Service for all your bicycle transportation needs along the West Coast! Five star service! On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:41 PM, James Warren wrote: > > The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured > here: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/460

[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Bicycle shops in Hokkaido

2015-07-31 Thread Lungimsam
Or call him at Compass Cycles in Seattle Washington USA at: 206-789-0424 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googleg

[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Bicycle shops in Hokkaido

2015-07-31 Thread Lungimsam
I'd ask Jan Heine of Compass Cycles/ Bicycle Quarterly. He's been riding a lot in japan and I think he's been thru Hokkaido. He writes about bike shops in Japan too. Maybe he can recommend someone: hein...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Don Compton
My 2 cents At 63, I've been riding as an adult for 31 years. I nevered wanted to race because I was a competive golfer and wanted to escape that situation. Over the years my fitness improved, I always suffered from lower back problems. I got really fit, light and pretty strong. The back pain nev

Re: [RBW] FS: Giordana XL-Eco 57 cm

2015-07-31 Thread Tim Gavin
oops! $695 Thanks! On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Abcyclehank wrote: > Price? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunc

[RBW] FS: Giordana XL-Eco 57 cm

2015-07-31 Thread Abcyclehank
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[RBW] FS: Giordana XL-Eco 57 cm

2015-07-31 Thread Tim Gavin
This is a mid-90s Giordana XL-Eco stage racing bike. Designed by Dario Pegoretti, built by Billato in Italy. Lugged steel! Campagnolo and Sachs! Photos Size: 57 cm (57 seat tube, 57 top tube, 72 degree head ang

[RBW] Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

2015-07-31 Thread James Warren
The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210 The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. I'll p

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Brewster Fong
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2015 04:41 PM, Liesl wrote: > > Aaach this one hit home. My sister died at age 51 of tachycardia and her > daughter struggles with it as well. As I was reading the article, I found > out someone I knew died w

[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Bicycle shops in Hokkaido

2015-07-31 Thread Alan Pickett
Hi Nils - I know nothing about Japan or Hokkaido bike shops, but I do remember that Jitensha Studio sells a high quality cloth bar tape called Viva that is made in Japan. Here is a link to their website, and contact email is: h...@jitensha.com. By t

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne with Rohloff Hub

2015-07-31 Thread Wayne Naha
Those orange Sams are the best. And a Rohloff hub, too! I hear you say it's Time, but I think you would do well to keep it. You may yet ride again, and your patient Sam will wait for you. Take it down, and keep it where you can see it. On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:53:02 AM UTC-4, John wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/31/2015 05:27 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: Daniel, The Elephant NFE is a low trail bike, meaning it is meant to have a load in the front. Unloaded in the front, the steering will be somewhat light depending on the exact amount of trail it has in millimeters. Jan Heine has done some testin

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Jim Bronson
Daniel, The Elephant NFE is a low trail bike, meaning it is meant to have a load in the front. Unloaded in the front, the steering will be somewhat light depending on the exact amount of trail it has in millimeters. Jan Heine has done some testing on the handling characteristics of various amoun

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Daniel D.
Ain't that the truth On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 12:20:12 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: > > > The popular reporting of science studies is the same as popular reporting > of everything: hysterical, all-or-nothing, and out of context. Exaggerated > for emotional effect. > > Philip > www.bike

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/31/2015 04:41 PM, Liesl wrote: Aaach this one hit home. My sister died at age 51 of tachycardia and her daughter struggles with it as well. As I was reading the article, I found out someone I knew died within the past hour of a heart attack. My dad had three heart attacks in a week an

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "nice easy-going stability" but I like what Alex Wetmore had to say on the subject 5 years ago on the iBOB list: Archive-URL:http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=internet-bob.11001.0138.eml From: Alex Wetmore Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:44:33 +

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Daniel D.
Nice looking bike. Seems to tick off a lot of boxes on my list. But reading this part of the NFE blurb gave me pause, "for experienced riders who prefer nimble handling and light steering input". Sounds like it may not have the nice easy going stability I'm seeking. On Friday, July 31, 2015 at

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Liesl
Aaach this one hit home. My sister died at age 51 of tachycardia and her daughter struggles with it as well. As I was reading the article, I found out someone I knew died within the past hour of a heart attack. My dad had three heart attacks in a week and died from the third at age 58. At 56,

[RBW] Reduced- FS: 56cm Sam Hillborne frame/fork (double top tube) + Extras

2015-07-31 Thread 'Shelby M' via RBW Owners Bunch
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Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Philip Williamson
"Well science KNOWS it doesn't know everything. Otherwise it'd STOP ." - Dara O'Brien The popular reporting of science studies is the same as popular reporting of everything: hysterical, all-or-nothing, and out of context. Exaggerated for emotional effect.

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Christian
Jeff The bars are measured center to center from the hoods. I really like them so far. The hooks were nice yesterday while cranking up some steep trails. The frame is a medium--equivalent to a 56cm effective top tube. Here's the info page with the geometry chart from Elephant: http://www.e

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
Laughing with myself . . . I had to look up the word "locution" ! What can I's says . . . I ams what I ams !ABQ is applesolutely wonderful by-the-way . On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:25:30 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Om (Or is that "Aum"?) Anyway, Aum

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Jeff Lesperance
Great looking bike and build. Those cowchippers look like a compelling design - where is the 46cm measured - across the top of the bar or at the flared ends of the drops? What size frame is that? On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Good to see that you're having success going

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
To All . . . . Yes, I believed that true once too . However , for something to be disproven, there needs to be a standard of Truth , yes ? I ask these things of myself . Well, where and what is this standard ? Does not a standard of Truth to be True, need to be Absolute and infallible ,

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Christian
BTW: The Radavist has a great review of the NFE: http://theradavist.com/2015/07/elephant-bikes-national-forest-explorer-with-gevenalle-shifting/#1 On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:56:57 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: > > Steve, > > Happy to oblige. It's a 10 speed with a 10-36 cassette and XT long cage

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Christian
Steve, Happy to oblige. It's a 10 speed with a 10-36 cassette and XT long cage, clutchless mtn RD shifted by 10 speed Dura Ace bar end shifters. Shifts great. The CX70 shifts flawlessly b/w the 26-42. On the nature of greatness: Well, it's as zippy my Terraferma ever was--climbs amazingly,

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Good to see that you're having success going tubeless with Compass EL tires. I want to try that myself. Purty bike, BTW. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Christian wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Reporting back now that I have had the NFE for a week. It's been great so > far! > > Thought I'd share

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/31/2015 02:38 PM, Christian wrote: Hi everyone, Reporting back now that I have had the NFE for a week. It's been great so far! Thought I'd share my build and a few pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157656605491545

Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

2015-07-31 Thread Christian
Hi everyone, Reporting back now that I have had the NFE for a week. It's been great so far! Thought I'd share my build and a few pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157656605491545 WHEELS: WTB KOM i25 rims/Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tubeless/SP dynohub/Hope Evo Pro 2/VO

[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

2015-07-31 Thread Ron Mc
I didn't count the brown recluse spiders, either On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 8:18:28 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > >What's in my Garage ? Ahahahaahah . . . you do not want to know . . > . . neither do I ! *Laughing even more . . . .* . > > I do have a couple of bikes in there though , >

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne with Rohloff Hub

2015-07-31 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Fight! Don't quit riding. I have had over ten surgeries, three back, three knee, four related to carpal tunnel and some others. I need a knee replacement very soon, but I am putting it off as long as I can tolerate it. The only thing that helps my pain is riding. I live without a car and ride l

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Om (Or is that "Aum"?) Anyway, Aum mblmblmblmblmbl, Amen. Patrick Moore, grooving to the Absolute in absolutely wunnerful ABQ, NM (who thinks that behind the bizarre locution Garth may glimpse a bit of truth). > On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Garth wrote: > > > > Laughing . .

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Patrick Moore
If the subject is arrhythmia, I've got it too. I was diagnosed with it some 15+ years ago -- wore the monitor for a week, consulted with a cardiologist, who wanted to put me on beta blockers. My then wife, a DOM as well as MD, put me on a year-long regimen of truly nasty witches' brew potions and p

[RBW] FS: Showers Pass Convertible Club Pants Size XL

2015-07-31 Thread Zack
I have worn these a couple times, don't really think there are any signs of wear but you could probably find some if you looked super hard, you can see pics and description of the pants here: https://www.showerspass.com/products/mens-club-convertible-2-pant *$50 Shipped in the USA.* -- You re

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Garth wrote: > > Laughing . . . . . . . . What is "science" anyways as if "it" were > self existent , Absolute Truth in itself. What is called "science" ever > changes , ever changing it's own rules all the time ! That is anything but > Absolute Trut

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Ron Mc
> > > > My best riding buddy, whom I used to drag behind, also a pharmacist and > corporate hospital IS manager, has displayed a MAT tendency twice in his > life - once on a 45 mi bike ride together. He now doesn't often ride past > 20 miles and in that 20-30 leg slows way down and monitors hi

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Jul 31, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Makes me wonder where randonneuring fits into all this. It's hard at times, > but we don't try to kill ourselves either and we usually ride at a social > pace that allows for conversation. > > But still, 10 hour + rides are a frequent oc

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Jul 31, 2015, at 12:20 AM, dougP wrote: > > While I can make no claim to being a competitive athlete, this hits really > close to home. I was diagnosed with AF in late 2013, and have dealt with it > since then. Earlier this year, VT was added to the mix. My experience > follows that of

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne with Rohloff Hub

2015-07-31 Thread Kellie
Sweet bike! On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 11:53:02 PM UTC-7, John wrote: > > it's time > > Time to let go of my Sam Hillborne. Injuries and surgeries prevent me from > riding. I've had the Sam hanging in the garage for a few years, It's Time > > I will get Sam down from the rafters today and shoo

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread William deRosset
>If you keep a social pace is it "just riding" or are you putting yourself in a danger zone just due to the sheer length of the thing. Dear Jim, We don't really know for randonneuring specifically. RUSA does have a self-reporting system for crashes and other incidents, but I don't think the pr

[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 cm Sam Hillborne

2015-07-31 Thread Philip Kim
Hope you find one! The 51s went out quick after Riv announced they wouldn't be stocking it for a year. Although, I do yearn for a cheviot or clem one of these days. On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:53:01 AM UTC-4, Stanley Withouski wrote: > > Went to Riv last weekend only to find out they just ran

[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
What's in my Garage ? Ahahahaahah . . . you do not want to know . . . . neither do I ! *Laughing even more . . . .* . I do have a couple of bikes in there though , a '99 Franklin Frame custom and a early unknown year Bombadil . And a mini Wonka chocolate factory of cool bike parts

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
"Science" isn't Absolute Truth, it's a methodology for disproving hypotheses. As such, it's extremely useful. On 07/31/2015 08:41 AM, Garth wrote: Laughing . . . . . . . . What is "science" anyways as if "it" were self existent , Absolute Truth in itself. What is called "science" e

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
FWIW, the choice of specific rings and crank also will vary the distance between rings. Basic Sugino rings for example, do not have the wonderful clearance of their OEM rings that come on their complete cranks . They are set and formed completely differently. So every setup is going to be u

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

2015-07-31 Thread Ron Mc
It's always a geometry exercise. You have two choices, pick a smaller big ring or a wider axle. Look very closely at your chainline to begin with. Then also question whether the single gear option is worth changing anything.

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Ron Mc
people thinking the world was flat is also a myth. Eratosthenes is the first recorded calculation of the earth's diameter, in 276 BC (he is also thought to have calculated the distance to the sun) Every archaic people knew the earth was round. My best riding buddy, whom I used to drag behind,

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
Laughing . . . . . . . . What is "science" anyways as if "it" were self existent , Absolute Truth in itself. What is called "science" ever changes , ever changing it's own rules all the time ! That is anything but Absolute Truth . The Absolute Truth is Life cannot be added to,

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

2015-07-31 Thread Larry Charlton
I just installed that exact drivetrain on my Yves Gomez. Even though I wouldn't ride in the small/small combination I still clear the large big chain ring by a couple mm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

2015-07-31 Thread Garth
Yes . . . . ditto of what Steve highlighted on what you originally said , "never have the chain in this combination " ! The 26 to me, is really more of a "bailout" ring anyways , lol . The 40 can use the entire cogset so the 26 would only be used when/if I really needed it . Tiny r

Re: [RBW] Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/28/2015 07:57 AM, RDS wrote: Installed the Sugino Wide/Low double Crank (40/26). Still in repair stand. 9 Speed. Cassette is 11/34. When the chain is in the small ring up front and the small ring in the back (yes, I realize that this might not be a good gear combination to ride in),

Re: [RBW] Does Science Now Support ... "Just Ride" ?

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/31/2015 02:14 AM, Lungimsam wrote: I don't put alot of truck in science anymore. Too much conflicting science. Food and nutrition being one example. We like to think we've got it all figured out but remember, it wasn't too long ago we thought the world was flat and bleeding people cure