I use Pearl Izumi sun sleeves if the humidity is not too high, they work great.
However, if it's really humid and 90+, they're worse than useless,
better just to go with bare arms/legs and an extra helping of
sunscreen.
Or are you talking about only your head? I don't know, I have tons of
hair a
Welcome, KC! Congratulations on your Cheviot!
Evan E.
SF, CA
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That is a beautiful bike. It's nice how the tires, saddle and tape blend
so well to compliment the red frame.
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:54:30 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:
> Oddly, that shot of me going up Mt Graham is the second of my Rivendell
> shots to get picked up by Explorer on Fl
Wouldn't the Mini be more of a CocktailWeinerMobile?
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 7:33:39 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> Liesl,
>
> The fire engine shot is a huge score. Thank you for that.
>
> dougP
>
> Wonder what happened to my wiener whistle?
>
> Apparently, you can make your Mini into a W
Bill,
How'd it compare to the other Rivs you own? You appear to have enough to
be considered a reliable authority.
John
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:21:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've
> always felt lucky that I'm p
I intend to build my 59cm Clementine as if I were a kid riding my big sister's
bike... I can't picture it with anything but huge swept-back upright bars...
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Thanks Ann.
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I did go on a first day of Spring ride with our two eldest and we had a
blast splashing through mud puddles. The breaking in of the bag has begun!
Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I just picked the bikes up the way they are set up in my garage. The
Atlantis has a rack, a large saddlesack and a dyno light. The Roadeo
just has one of those vegan handlebar bags and a little tool/spare
tire pouch.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:47 PM, ted wrote:
> That's clearly more than 10 lbs. I
done here - thanks !
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:53:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> This is a good deal for someone willing to live with a scarred post - no
> burrs or rough spots, but has some nasty lighting bolts and vertical lines
> in the finish.
> Had it on my Moser road bike and it sho
That's clearly more than 10 lbs. I would have thought the difference in those
two frames was under 3 lbs. Are the builds a lot different?
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I grabbed the bathroom scale, walked out to the garage, picked up each
bike and weighed them. The Atlantis as it is currently set up weighs
12 pounds more than the Roadeo as currently set up.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:30 PM, ted wrote:
> Though I don't really disagree, I do think the case is over
Though I don't really disagree, I do think the case is overstated a bit
here.
I think my stout two top tube Bombadil with nitto mini rack, steel
bullmoose bar, lugged post, b17 saddle and kick stand is only about 5 lbs
heavier than my AHH (which has no rack, no kickstand, no extra stout
compon
Here's my attempt at an answer:
Get a Sam if you want a bike like that. Get the Cheviot if you want what
the Sam does but with a lower top tube. Get the Clem if you want clearance
for fatter tires than either Sam or Cheviot or you want to spend less.
All three are versatile frames that can do man
Seatpost, Tektro canti brakes, and SRAM brake levers are spoken for.
Remaining items are:
White Industries ENO Crankset - silver, 170mm, with silver 44t 1/8"
chainring - $150
Dean Titanium Quill Stem - 100mm, 26.0mm clamp - $60
Nitto Noodle - 46cm heat-treated - $50
Tioga MX Pro Platform Pedals
Actually folks, I said nothing about a drop bar. My Surly has a straight
bar with bar ends and twist shifters and this has worked well for couple a
thousand miles of touring.
I don't do well with a fully upright position. Because of a herniated
disc, I need to be in a slightly forward leaning po
How do you choose and why?
Eric "none of the above right now" Daume
Dublin, OH
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I believe the idea with the long stays, long TT and a reach-back bar is to
put you in the center of a longbike, kinda like a chopper. In order to make
a dropbar work, (I surmise) you'd have to ride a too-small Clem for a
shorter TT, then stick a shorty stem in there. Which would leave the
quest
If I order one (before or after the pre-sale), it will be the
pewter/anthracite/grey. It's perfect.
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Truth. But unless the step over height is lower than the Betty (which I
don't think it is), I'll pass.
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 1:44:52 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
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> On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 3:27:04 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> Stop making me want a Cheviot. *pout*
>>
>
> But
I rode my entire SR series last year on my Hilsen. It has fenders, handlebar
bag, dyno hub, lights and Brooks saddle. It's not light but it performed well.
And it is so very comfortable! I finished my 600k the last week in July. The
first week in August I did a 200k permanent on my Roadeo. No fe
This is a good deal for someone willing to live with a scarred post - no
burrs or rough spots, but has some nasty lighting bolts and vertical lines
in the finish.
Had it on my Moser road bike and it should have worked, but continued to
squat on me, and got marked up having to pull it back up o
I think my numbers are fairly realistic. I would say most people taking on
a 200K with 10K climbing can manage this ascent rate. If you can only do
1500 ft/hr, that's still 5 hours of climbing at a typical SFR brevet with
7,500 ft of climbing, so you still would not lose more than 15 minutes due
Thanks for the translate, Bill. I checked that autocorrect didn't botch it,
but it botched it after I checked it. Apparently it's not enough to just
check it after typing a space after trunksack, you have to check it before
hitting send. Ugh.
It does look odd all clean, doesn't it? Poor thing.
hi ron, what is that copper disc in the second photo hanging off the back
of your stem?
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Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. Going with tidy cables to the stem.
On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-7, David wrote:
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> I'm curious what the group's opinion or preference is (and why) regarding
> barcon cable routing. AFAIK, on the one hand, you can do it the RBW (or,
> tr
##Deacon Patrick translator subroutine INITIATE##
When our friend Deacon says "Large Rucksack" in his title, he means "Large
Trunksack"
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;-)
Great mod! Now go out and get that thing dirty! That clean Trunksack
looks all out of place and new.
Simple stick solution to keep the front overhang from sagging. Will test out
this coming week. As to "Why?" Because this is where I carry my food, and a
small Trunksack doesn't carry enough for multi-day trips with more than myself
(and I carry my daughter's food).
I’ve had this questions for a
My saddle height is 75.5. Grant might be 75. Sorry, I could have
photographed it, but I didn't
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:30:57 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Do you know the saddle height and is there a photo of this specific bike
> somewhere online?
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2015
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:29:42 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Let me be clear: I will use and enjoy the Clem in any case, I'm just
> playing around with ideas on how I will set it up. Frame geometry and
> tubing specs can give you an idea about how a bike will feel and the most
> app
Awesome!
With abandon,
Patrick
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Do you know the saddle height and is there a photo of this specific bike
somewhere online?
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 2:21:27 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've
> always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized
These little dudes will protect your floor:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k3.htm
Made in Switzerland & sold for $1, fob Walnut Creek. They wear out, get
lost, etc., so I order them several at a time to fill out an order from
Rivendell. They make a nice giveaway when someone notices & says
Something fishy going on there.
dougP
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 11:06:30 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
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> Okay, I couldn't resist. Riv Chica Warrior Rides Again!
>
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Let me be clear: I will use and enjoy the Clem in any case, I'm just
playing around with ideas on how I will set it up. Frame geometry and
tubing specs can give you an idea about how a bike will feel and the most
appropriate way to set it up, but its no substitute for actually riding it.
Bottom l
I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem. I've
always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized. Turns out
today I got to ride Grant's Clem prototype, and didn't even have to change
saddle height. It's terrific. It rides how I expected it to ride, meaning
i
" a rider with a vertical ascent rate of 2K ft/hr, which is perhaps a
little slower than average."
Isn't this assumption a tad optimistic? Let's say that 2000 feet/hour
is the median climbing rate. That means that half of the riders climb
slower than that. For some of us, the days of our youth whe
Well, reading everything that's been posted so far in this thread ... in
the short run, ride whichever bike you think you can finish on, but in the
long run I would recommend that you figure out whatever equipment changes
you need to make to have the Rom be as comfortable as the Atlantis, and
t
How about preparing them both and when it's time to go you'll just know
which to take .
"Life is not problem to be overcome , it is a Reality to be experienced !
"
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 11:32:53 AM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
>
> I say not only store your bike in the living room, but work on it there,
> too! It's way more pleasant!
>
I'll do the mechanical stuff in the workshop at least, don't want grease on
the rug.:O
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On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:06:54 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:
>
> Yes, but you very considerately kept the bike off the hardwood floor.
> Or were you protecting the tires by making sure they were on the carpet?
>
Oh, the Rumpkins can handle hardwood ;)
Actually, it was the kickstand I w
I think the impact of a heavier bike is grossly overestimated. The worst
case for a heavy bike is a course where all of the climbing is long and
steep. Let's take Anne's example. Let's assume 10K feet of climbing in a
200K (quite hilly), and a rider with a vertical ascent rate of 2K ft/hr,
whi
Darin:
I have no experience with randos but can offer this observation on tires
for the Atlantis. I've used Schwalbe Marathon Supremes for many years and
still feel it's the best tire for touring, i.e., flat resistant, long
wearing, etc. But when the Soma C-line came out, I tried a pair of th
This is quibbling. At the start of a randonnee, the rider is as fit as
they are. They can't choose to be more fit today and use a bike that
is slower for them. It doesn't matter if another rider would be able
to keep up with the group using their heavy bike; if they are slower
on one bike than anot
The comfort thing is almost an intangible. Both have the B17 saddles and
noodle bars, but the Rom bars are 2cm wider. I suspect the wider tires on
the Atlantis are the main factor, although that may be less of an issue now
that the Rom has the Stampede Pass tires. I tend to be more casual whe
Our classic book *"The Golden Age of Handbuilt Bicycles"* has been
re-released in Rizzoli's "Classics" series, in a slightly smaller format
and at a very attractive price. It's exciting to see a book about
"real-world" bikes as a best-seller (at least among art and architecture
books), and it's
I've been rando-ing off and on since 2006. I view the getting dropped
and riding alone issue to be one of fitness and not of equipment, just
my $0.02. Seen plenty of fast riders riding heavy steel bikes and
plenty of slow riders using crabon fibre.
I give my Rivendell Custom owning friend a ride
KC we're neighbors! I often do a loop through Albany, Berkeley, Emeryville
starting in Marina Bay and cross over that bridge on weekends.
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Yes, but you very considerately kept the bike off the hardwood floor.
Or were you protecting the tires by making sure they were on the carpet?
On 3/20/2015 8:48 AM, Leslie wrote:
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Comfort = better endurance = faster over long distances.
With abandon,
Patrick
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Why is the Atlantis more comfortable than the Rom? Can't the Rom be as
comfortable?
I've got a Bomba w/ racks for camping, a Rom as a gravel-grinder, and then
set up the Ram as a rando bike. I think of the Ram/Rom as being a perfect
start for a rando bike; the Atlantis would be a fine ch
Oddly, that shot of me going up Mt Graham is the second of my Rivendell
shots to get picked up by Explorer on Flickr. The shot below - - a very
average shot of my Legolas - - somehow got selected. I's pretty mundane,
but managed to develop 13k hits and a lot of compliments. It really ain't
m
So, we'd had a bleak winter (I'm sadly, a fair-weather biker), and a couple
of weeks of snow (we occasionally get snow, but, usually can't handle it as
efficiently as places north of here); So, finally, had a few nice days,
got out after work for a couple of evening rides on Monday and Tuesday
Use the Rom for the 200. Based on your results make the call for the 300 and
beyond. I love using several bikes on SFR rides. I might end up using several
different bikes this year
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+1 to Doug's sentiment. It is nice to witness the uncontainable excitement
of new Riv owners as they discover how great their bikes really are. Don't
be surprised if your excitement doesn't dissipate for a long time to come.
Happy riding.
John
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:26:30 AM UTC-7, do
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. The LHT is a "normal" touring bike.
Drop bars, rugged, etc. The Clem is not normal. There isn't another bike out
there like the Clem. For sure it's intended for upright bars and very relaxed
riding. The notion of replacing an LHT with a Clem sounds cool,
I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next month. I'd been
planning on riding my Romulus which is set up with the original factory
wheels and the extraordinary Compass Stampede Pass tires and fenders. My
thoght was to add the Mark's rack to the Romulus and be ready to go with
ba
KC:
This group loves photos of our bikes in the wild, and especially exploring
unusual places. Feel free to keep the interesting photos coming.
dougP
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 7:27:38 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> And orange is fun. I won't keep doing this (too much), but here's
> yesterday af
Brilliant! Saved it to my files for future reference (If I remember to
look. Sardonic grin.).
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote:
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> Just look at Jim Langleys page on detecting bike noises:
>
> http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html
thanks for the link - gave me a couple of ideas on a new wheel chirp
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 9:41:05 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
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> Just look at Jim Langleys page on detecting bike noises:
>
> http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html
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And orange is fun. I won't keep doing this (too much), but here's yesterday
afternoon's (better) pictures. And at the end of the day, my husband asked
if I thought there was room for 2 bikes inside the motorhome. Of course,
there is and so nice to see them there ready for the day.
On Thursda
Kai , you would hear of such a measurement from many custom frame
builders . Each builder though may measure it in their own way, maybe from
a specific point of the shoulder, etc. They often ask a whole lotta
measurements . For mass market frames though , seat tube size by far rules .
Of co
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:05:55 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
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> Evening All,
>
> I have a Surly LHT that I've used for fully loaded touring, and have loved
> it for that purpose. However, when lightly loaded or not at all, I find
> the ride stiff, rigid, almost leaden (is that a word ?
What tires are you running on the LHT? I've found that light, supple tires
completely transform the ride experience of that bike, compared to the
armored touring tires commonly used. Try a set of Compass Barlow Pass
before you write it off.
rod
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:05:55 PM UTC-4,
I don't understand the last sentence.
On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:25 AM, islaysteve wrote:
> It seems like most if not all Rivs are supposed to be suitable for the kind
> of touring you're contemplating, like a Sam or Hilsen. If you already have a
> Riv, you might not need a Clem.
> Steve
>
> -
It seems like most if not all Rivs are supposed to be suitable for the kind of
touring you're contemplating, like a Sam or Hilsen. If you already have a Riv,
you might not need a Clem.
Steve
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