[RBW] Re: Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
I wish I had my camera when Manny was my pedi-cab driver taking me and my mom to the SF Giants game. On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:20:38 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > So school starts soon for me. > My principal usually makes a slideshow of teacher's summer. And since I > lost my stick

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
A Riv IRD 9sp cassette is $68 and a Wipperman chain from Riv is $78. $146 for both. Dura Ace barcons are $120 now, and just for fun I also threw in a $76 set of Paul Thumbies to run them on the tops. That adds up to $196. None of those prices were made up. It's just high end Riv stuff ev

Re: [RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Abcyclehank
Manny, Is this it? https://www.flickr.com/photos/88645634@N07/14548883939/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsub

Re: [RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Abcyclehank
Manny, The picture that people are referencing is on Hugh's flicker page. Socalpedalpusher. Picture labeled horsing around. Enjoy your school year. Sincerely, Ryan Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread lungimsam
Hetres are a bear to get the bead set right on Synergy rims because the rim wells on Synergies are alleged to be too deep. The new run of Grand Bois rims and the A23 Velocity rims ((with Stan's tape) are touted as the solutions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Jim Bronson
That's a pretty extreme example. Most people would economize some things in the build. I think some of the parts on there I might characterize as "crazy". A $1,400 wheelset with tubes and tires? $640 for cranks, BBs and pedals? $146 for chain and cassette?? (I don't think Rivendell sells Camp

Re: [RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Evan
Hi Manny, I can picture the picture that you're talking about, but I too can't find it on old threads. But I did find this one of you, from Amit. Good picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/14656010961/in/pool-entmoot2014/ Happy birthday! Evan E. SF, CA -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Birthday Sheinagians

2014-08-20 Thread dougP
Let's see, 10 miles in 3 hours, (mumble, mumble, carry the one) sounds like our trip to Tiburon during the Jamboree. You mention this walking thing. Manny, you are now on the list with David and Jim Thill about "bring a bike that's easy to push". Happy Birthday! Now back to class. dou

[RBW] Re: Chains and cassettes

2014-08-20 Thread EricK
There's a fair amount of sand on the roads in the desert. I tend to the chain about every 300 miles. A swim in OMS and then some FL teflon dry. Replace every 2k miles? That's interesting. One of the benefits I enjoy by using sub-10sp drivetrains is not having to change the chain every 2000

Re: [RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, that's a keeper!!! Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > I've got one- Entmoot! Entmoot! Entmoot!!! > https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/14463694879/ > Happy birthday Manuel J > =- Joe > > On 8/2

Re: [RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Joe Bunik
I've got one- Entmoot! Entmoot! Entmoot!!! https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/14463694879/ Happy birthday Manuel J =- Joe On 8/20/14, Manuel Acosta wrote: > So school starts soon for me. > My principal usually makes a slideshow of teacher's summer. And since I > lost my stick-pod I haven't b

[RBW] Re: Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Here's the most recent photo I've seen of you on other peoples photostreams: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30037367@N03/14015679513/ On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:20:38 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > So school starts soon for me. > My principal usually makes a slideshow of teacher's summe

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread cyclotourist
That's what I'm talking 'bout! Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Bill wrote: > >> " ... A few ounces make no difference to an amateur, Mr. Moulton says." >>

[RBW] Weird Request.

2014-08-20 Thread Manuel Acosta
So school starts soon for me. My principal usually makes a slideshow of teacher's summer. And since I lost my stick-pod I haven't been doing a lot of portrait shots this summer. I got a good one running my bike up from Han during a MTB race. https://flic.kr/p/nSoTyt I need one more. I'm pretty

[RBW] Birthday Sheinagians

2014-08-20 Thread Manuel Acosta
Since joining this group I've had the pleasure to meet and ride with amazing people. Glad to have shared my birthday weekend adventures with a few of them. Briones Birthday Overnight. 10 miles? 2000 feet of climbing? Sounds doable. NOT. Met at RivBBH. Local James Philips and Out-of-towner Kier

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Goshen Peter
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Bill wrote: > " ... A few ounces make no difference to an amateur, Mr. Moulton says.” > > Well a few of us *professional* Riv owners actually like a few extra > ounces when they're in the right places. It looks good and makes for a > nice long term relationship

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Bill
" ... A few ounces make no difference to an amateur, Mr. Moulton says.” Well a few of us *professional* Riv owners actually like a few extra ounces when they're in the right places. It looks good and makes for a nice long term relationship. Those skinny ones will break your wallet and leave y

[RBW] Re: Gransfor Bruk - need something to actually work on cutting wood.

2014-08-20 Thread Tony DeFilippo
In sure the Grunsfor is amazing, I picked up their full size felling Axe here on the forum and couldn't be happier with the function of the form. (And I have used it as it was intended on several occasions!) For a smaller Axe/hatchet I think you should consider the (MUSA) and quite affordable '

[RBW] Re: Upright!

2014-08-20 Thread dougP
Riding sensibly helps a lot on both issues. The guys on the racing bikes in full race garb look really out of place. Sort of like driving a Ferrari down to the local coffee house for a cappucino. dougP On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:12:52 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: > > GH!! NO helme

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread dougP
Bill: You did go high end, but I really like that your example is a useful bike with racks, bags, lights, lots'o'low gears (presumably). It'll do a ton of stuff the halo bike won't. Plus it's actually a custom, whereas I doubt you get much frame choice from the autoclave mold. OTH, a $2,60

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread KB
I used to listen to PHC quite a bit. Maybe some of that humor sank in. KB On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 08/20/2014 07:49 PM, Kyle Brooks wrote: > >> >> and this last one that got somebody at Specialized a little irked with me: >> http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.c

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/20/2014 07:49 PM, Kyle Brooks wrote: and this last one that got somebody at Specialized a little irked with me: http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/07/for-top-1-of-top-1.html Reminds me of the cereal that used to be advertised on “A Prairie Home Companion”–it was called “Raw Bits”

Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/20/2014 08:08 PM, murphyjrfk wrote: Good to hear. I'm after the big bens. Looks like they'll fit. I have hertres they are the nicest ever but alas they aren't working w the synergys. Not working with the Synergys? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

[RBW] Re: Macgyver and Hub Area Bags

2014-08-20 Thread Liesl
Here's a quick update: tried this same approach as in my previous post with Erin's 60cm Cheviot and a full size nitto rear rack. Didn't work nearly so tidily as with my 51cm proto bleriot and the tubus fly rack, which was a very compact package. So the HAR bags on a rear rack is dependent somew

[RBW] Re: Upright!

2014-08-20 Thread Brian Campbell
GH!! NO helmets, no spandex...how did the survive?? On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:02:30 PM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote: > > Not upright and a bit more commercial (but its Brooks, so that is > acceptable, right?) but fun video nonetheless. Whoever was running the > camera did a great job. >

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Riv Custom - $3500 Headset - $80 Nice Rich Dyno wheelset - $715 + $490 Tires + tubes + rimstrips + Skewers - $192 Cranks + BB + pedals - $640 Chain and Cassette - $146 F+R ders - $160 Shifters - $196 Bar + Stem - $310 Brakes + Levers - $463 Saddle + post - $384 F+R racks - $501 F+R bags - $642 Kic

[RBW] Re: Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread murphyjrfk
Good to hear. I'm after the big bens. Looks like they'll fit. I have hertres they are the nicest ever but alas they aren't working w the synergys. And my commute is a mile so I'm not overly worried about feel. Thanks for the info guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Kyle Brooks
Hi all -- I've heard and used the "halo bike" term before, and wrote a bit about those hyper expensive bikes in The Retrogrouch Blog. http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2013/11/that-bike-cost-how-much.html http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/04/what-for-money.html and this last one that go

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Herbitter
And, as a picture recently posted to a the RBW FB page indicates, a Ram can keep up on the road with the carbon bikes too. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:22 PM, ascpgh wrote: > Funny. In a group of 8-10 on mostly CF mid to high end bikes on last > night's group ride, my orange Rambouillet with its h

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread dougP
"Last year, Ted Perry dipped into his 401(k) to buy a $20,000 bicycle." Ted Perry seems to have over-spent. Dipping into an appreciating asset to finance a depreciating asset is unwise. Makes you wonder how many of those exotics are financed by credit card & actually end up costing thousands

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread dougP
Cycling may have replaced golf in certain circles. Healthier, more exciting, and one can still engage in conspicuous consumption. By buying a five figure bicycle, consider how many people have been outspent. Think of the grief shop personnel must get from customers who've ".spent $10,000

Re: [RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:01:16 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote: > mine will go anywhere I point it. -RCW > Huh. What a great feature! Can it be added on after market? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Gransfor Bruk - need something to actually work on cutting wood.

2014-08-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't remember which one this is, but it may be the wildlife hatchet. Here it is in action: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14394796378/in/set-72157645528023234 It's great for the small firewood we burn in our FireBox, big enough to be very useful, small enough that it's part of m

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Halo bike, eh... WWMCR? What Would Master Chief Ride? On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:15:50 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > > That’s a term I’d not heard before – “Halo Bicycle”. Used to describe a > five figure priced bike. There’s a very long story in the Personal Journal > section of the Wall

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread ascpgh
Funny. In a group of 8-10 on mostly CF mid to high end bikes on last night's group ride, my orange Rambouillet with its hammered Honjos was called out repeatedly by drivers and folks we passed along the evening's route. Halo? All that CF and resin has become white noise, the lugged steel bike w

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread lungimsam
I say if it feels good - ride it! Weight only matters to who it matters too. I'm happy for whoever has a great ride on their bike, whether it is Carbon, Steel, Alu, Manganese, Ti, Bamboo, etc. Whether its 20,000$ or 100$, or 10lbs. or 40lbs. -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Liesl
I know that Keven has one of the Mystery bikes, and there was a smallish dark green one at Riv that was just small enough for me to ride it and fall in love. That's how I decided on my custom design. And yes, they are insanely comfortable and mine will go anywhere I point it. -RCW -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Attn: Big mileage riders

2014-08-20 Thread Lynne Fitz
Grand Bois Cypres - tried them. The Hutchinsons are more durable, and weigh about the same. When I do get around to swapping tires on the Bleriot, there are some Soma Xpress tires in the bin. Hey! Steve, you are retired! Want to ride a perm pop with me out of Alexandria in October? On Tues

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Kevin M
Maybe I wasn't, but after reading the excerpt you provided I think Rivendell uses halo marketing (or whatever you want to call it) very well. A shopper might visit the riv website drooling over a frameset that is completely unaffordable for them, and find something rivish at a price point they

[RBW] Re: Gransfor Bruk - need something to actually work on cutting wood.

2014-08-20 Thread Liesl
In general, the Grunsfors Bruk axes are superb. I do some wood carving and am a member of the Summit View Spoon Carvers club (http://summitviewspoonclub.blogspot.com/). There are some way talented carvers in this group and I would guess that GB axes are the most prevalent axes of members. If

Re: [RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/20/2014 05:12 PM, Kevin M wrote: It's all relative. Rivendells are halo bikes for many people, I don't think think anyone who is buying a $20k bike can't afford it. I'm not convinced you're using the term correctly. / / /In the automotive industry, where the term is widely used and

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Tonester
I actually test rode a Madone a few years ago - I think it was about $4k - and it was really nice. Super stiff bottom bracket, reasonably comfortable and very light. I can totally the logic if you were racing but I'm never going to do a bike like that justice. I'll just roll along on the Atla

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Ryan
Kevin, I couldn't agree more :) On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:12:31 PM UTC-5, Kevin M wrote: > > It's all relative. Rivendells are halo bikes for many people, I don't > think think anyone who is buying a $20k bike can't afford it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Kevin M
It's all relative. Rivendells are halo bikes for many people, I don't think think anyone who is buying a $20k bike can't afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Ryan
In Winnipeg , I see a lot of very fit people riding CervelosI'm sure on any given Sunday along the popular routes, your count would go in the double digitsalong with high-end carbon Scotts, Specialized, Trek, etc. But Cervelo is the brand du jour among the physically and financially fit

Re: [RBW] Gransfor Bruk - need something to actually work on cutting wood.

2014-08-20 Thread Chris Chen
The wildlife hatchet is a fine piece of kit; I like it very much for splitting firewood and making kindling. That said, it's a pretty light, one handed tool so if you really want to split stuff you should go for something a bit heavier, something made for two hands. So yeah, the forest axe sounds

[RBW] Re: Nitto NR-20?

2014-08-20 Thread Evan Baird
The NR-20 mounts to the underside of the brake bridge. The NR-21 has a threaded post like the M-12. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr

[RBW] Gransfor Bruk - need something to actually work on cutting wood.

2014-08-20 Thread RJM
So, My wife and I went camping this past week with family and I came to the conclusion that our ridiculously cheap and crappy hatchet just doesn't cut it...so I'm looking for a good one. I was thinking of picking up the Small Forest Axe that Riv sells. Is anybody besides Grant using one of these

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread RJM
Even if it was something I was interested in, it's too rich for my blood and I don't mind spending money on bikes. On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:15:50 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: > That’s a term I’d not heard before – “Halo Bicycle”. Used to describe a > five figure priced bike. There’s a

[RBW] Re: Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Tonester
Halo? More like Hellno. On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:15:50 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > > That’s a term I’d not heard before – “Halo Bicycle”. Used to describe a > five figure priced bike. There’s a very long story in the Personal Journal > section of the Wall Street Journal today, here: >

[RBW] Re: Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread 'Jay B' via RBW Owners Bunch
The largest tires I have put on my Bleriot (with Paul Racer brakes and Synergy rims) are the Schwalbe "Fatties" RBW used to sell. They were in the 46mm wide ballpark, if I remember correctly. I squeezed some fenders in there as well, but just for kicks. You can check out some of the tire clea

Re: [RBW] Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread campyonlyguy
I have Here's on mine. Plenty of clearance for those plus Longboard fenders. Not a bunch of clearance between the tires and fenders, but the whole package fits quite well in the frame. I have Dia Compe centerpulls. --Eric N. www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.BlogSpot.com @CampyOnlyGuy Fro

Re: [RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
The "intended use" for my man Pudge's mystery bike is "USE". Tell me I'm wrong. On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:39:16 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > > Mine’s set up for commuting, but it could easily be a trail or a touring > bike. It’s insanely comfortable, but not sluggish in any way. > > >

RE: [RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Mine’s set up for commuting, but it could easily be a trail or a touring bike. It’s insanely comfortable, but not sluggish in any way. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goshen Peter Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 3:34 PM To: rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Goshen Peter
Yes On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Absolutely > > > On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:27:27 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: >> >> So what is the intended purpose of these tentacular frames? Mysterys, >>> Apps, and Clems. >>> >> Cruiser? Mountain? Touring? I am guessing not Roa

[RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Absolutely On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:27:27 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > So what is the intended purpose of these tentacular frames? Mysterys, >> Apps, and Clems. >> > Cruiser? Mountain? Touring? I am guessing not Road, since they have the > tentacular stays, and a diagatube. > -- You

[RBW] Re: Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread lungimsam
> > So what is the intended purpose of these tentacular frames? Mysterys, > Apps, and Clems. > Cruiser? Mountain? Touring? I am guessing not Road, since they have the tentacular stays, and a diagatube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
Hey Murphy, i have the 650 Big Bens on there now, they measure about 47mm on Synergys, I had some Vee Rubbers on there as well that were supposedly 1.95", they also fit quite easily, I would say you can go close to 50mm without fenders. Hope this helps. -Mike Sent from my iPhone > On Aug

[RBW] Rise of the Halo Bicycle

2014-08-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
That's a term I'd not heard before - "Halo Bicycle". Used to describe a five figure priced bike. There's a very long story in the Personal Journal section of the Wall Street Journal today, here: http://online.wsj.com/articles/rise-of-the-five-figure-bicycle-1408489679?tesla=y&mg=reno64-wsj&url

Re: [RBW] Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/20/2014 01:19 PM, murphyjrfk wrote: Thought I would just ask here before I go on a spending spree. What's the absolute biggest tire it will take? Currently have 41's that are more like 37's. Tektro brakes-- Synergy rims...normal stuff--by the looks of it I think I could go quite a bit f

[RBW] Bleriot tire clearance.

2014-08-20 Thread murphyjrfk
Thought I would just ask here before I go on a spending spree. What's the absolute biggest tire it will take? Currently have 41's that are more like 37's. Tektro brakes-- Synergy rims...normal stuff--by the looks of it I think I could go quite a bit fatter. Thanks in advance for the info.

[RBW] Re: Hello

2014-08-20 Thread Geir Bentzen
Hi Kevin, I'm also new to the group. I'm partly based in Down East Maine and partly in Texas. I got my Hunqapillar on July 11 this year and have been enjoying it around Washington and Hancock counties in Maine since then. One of the first things I did was to ride in the 100 mile version of the

[RBW] Re: Nitto NR-20?

2014-08-20 Thread Alex Moll
That's a beauty! Wonder how it attaches to the seat stays - 2nd bridge? Seems a little rack like that would be a nice perch for a big saddlebag (i.e. Sackville Medium.) Cheers, Alex On Monday, August 18, 2014 5:31:49 AM UTC-7, Takashi wrote: > > >

RE: [RBW] Who got Mystery Bikes?

2014-08-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have one, Joe. I posted a pic a few minutes ago on this list, and many more are on my Flickr stream, here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157630957672582/ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent: Tue

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 61 cm Atlantis

2014-08-20 Thread hsmitham
I've used my Hilsen with 30lbs and it handled okay, just don't load it up front too high but I think the sweet spot is between 15 & 20 lbs (credit card touring). I built an Atlantis so I could carry more weight.IMHO I think the AR would be a great bike for your needs loaded and unloaded. And it