[RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread Beth H
On Feb 3, 8:26 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > After much consideration... [snip], I found that Primo 26 x 1.0   > and Pasela 26 x 1.25 at 100 psi are every bit as fast as any 700C   > road tire I have used...[snip] I ride the Paselas now.  Good tires and > cheap-bonus! * Agreed. I often get a

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Who makes the Primo? -- Not that it really matters, practically, as I have all of Ryan Watson's 26X1 Turbos in my stash. The Pasela certainly is light at 240 gr for the kevlar beaded model -- only 40-50 gr more than the skinnies -- but IME -- and I used it long -- it's not as easy rolling as the

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:54 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: Did not realize people were so hostile to 26". I will soon receive a custom that is built around 26" wheels - at just under 6', I gu

[RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
After much consideration, a lot of dissatisfaction and grousing, and trying many, many tires on my 26" wheels, I found that Primo 26 x 1.0 and Pasela 26 x 1.25 at 100 psi are every bit as fast as any 700C road tire I have used. The Primos (spelled "PR1MO" on the sidewall) are too hard to f

[RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Human nature can be baffling sometimes. One thing that never ceases to amaze me about bikes is the endless variations designers and builders can derive from what is in essence a very simple machine. Rather than break bad on some one's bike for being different seems someone into bikes would want t

[RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread newenglandbike
I think spending a lot of time on a particular wheel size, and riding with people who also ride that wheel size, makes you sort of xenophobic torwards other sizes. Having spent most of my bicycling miles on 20" wheels, I can say that _well_ into adulthood 'big' wheel bikes looked strange to me.

[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe bag

2010-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I forgot to mention: one, you needn't take the BVM medallion and, two, will take a nice Banana bag or croissant bag or Keven's bag or something similar in part trade. Speaking of bags: just got a shop demo tube bag prototype from Jim at Hiawatha; not of the excessive Smythe quality but decent and

[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe bag

2010-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale03# It has one from-the-factory flaw (I paid full price for the bag; it is was not sold as a second): the leather binding on the right (facing back of bag) seam stopped about 3 cm short of the edge, and one from-me flaw, that the fabric was

[RBW] Carradice FS

2010-02-03 Thread b hamon
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Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > I can't imagine why they'd care [about 26" wheels -- ed.]. Can you even > see that the wheels are > unusual? I've only really ever seen one Riv All-Arounder, I think a 58 > cm, and it looks perfectly ordinary with nothing particula

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My three custom Riv Roads have been made for 559 or 571 wheels (no, I'm not short; I ride a 58 to 60) and they are by far the fastest bikes I've ridden.The light wheels are amazingly different when accelerating and climbing, at least compared to my heavy (24 mm Alex DH rims, 32 X 14 g spokes, 30 mm

[RBW] Re: 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread rcnute
Based on my experiences with the LHT, XO-1 and Atlantis, 26" wheels are great for everything except fast road riding. Fat or skinny, it always felt like extra work. For me 650b is the perfect compromise. Ryan On Feb 3, 4:39 pm, Angus wrote: > The TCO discussion appears to be morphing into a 26

[RBW] 26 inch wheels

2010-02-03 Thread Angus
The TCO discussion appears to be morphing into a 26 inch wheel discussion. My 59cm All-Rounder has 26inch wheels. I have received a grand total of two comments about the wheels size during the 12 years I have owned the bike. One was "what's with the small wheels?" the second (apparently not rea

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:17 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:54 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > Did not realize people were so hostile to 26". I will soon receive a > > custom that is built around 26" wheels - at just under 6', I guess you > > could call my bikes either larger or av

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:54 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: For some reason that isn't completely obvious, a lot of people have a reflexive distaste for smaller wheels. The 56 Atlantis was always a much harder sell than a 58 Atlantis, which I attribute to a widespread prejudice against smaller wheels. O

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:37 AM, james black wrote: Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging that it is a necessary evil (however signi

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Anne and James: I will readily concede that TCO not being a concern to me left less sensitive to GP's choice of words. On Feb 3, 1:05 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like > >> myse

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like >> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and >> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging >> that it is a necessary evil

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread james black
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:48, JoelMatthews wrote: >> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like >> myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and >> deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging >> that it is a necessary evil (ho

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
> For some reason that isn't completely obvious, a lot of people have a > reflexive distaste for smaller wheels. The 56 Atlantis was always a > much harder sell than a 58 Atlantis, which I attribute to a widespread > prejudice against smaller wheels. Over on the Long Haul Trucker forum, > there are

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
> On a single I'm willing to put up with some TCO, though I'm very glad > that Mike Barry designed my Mariposa without it. You cannot compare a custom with a stock design. Unless the owner demands some wacky wheel size/geometry, a custom builder should have a lot more flexibility than a basic des

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
> Those who design bicycles would be urged to consider customers like > myself, recognize that TCO is an offense (however significant), and > deal with it proactively, either by eliminating it, or acknowledging > that it is a necessary evil (however significant) to be tolerated. Isn't that what Gr

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
"What we're talking about is a matter of how much value to place on various attributes." I agree that smaller wheels are a solution for TCO and other real and perceived problems, and my custom touring bike is basically a copy of my 58 Atlantis, but for 26" wheels. For some reason that isn't comp

[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride

2010-02-03 Thread Phil Brown
On Feb 2, 10:16 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > Phil, I am not familiar with the White Fence trail, at least by that > name. Where specifically does it originate in Studio City? Thanks! I don't remember the street names but in the little housing area south of Ventura and west of Laurel it you just keep

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, james black wrote: > ... I > am mildly annoyed and feel vaguely insulted by the point of view I > sometimes encounter that TCO is an imaginary problem, or that I'm some > kind of dimwit because it bothers me. There are other cyclists > (customers) l

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread james black
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 22:32, Tim McNamara wrote: > I think there are a number of us who want our cake and get to eat it too: >  sporty fast geometry with 45 mm tires, full fenders and no TCO.  I'd say > "pick two."  Some enchiladas can't be readily served whole. What we're talking about is a mat

[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

2010-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
> to jamb my shoe into my fender". Bicycles should not cause this kind > of low-grade anxiety. It's unnecessary - if a bike has TCO, the wheels > are too big. Design it out with smaller wheels! As GP argues, there are many other concerns in a bike design than TCO. Designing a bike so it will be a