[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Patrick in VT
On Mar 14, 6:05 pm, Angus wrote: >there are many variables to account for. yes, I've acknowledged this, verbatim. and, again, i'm comparing country bikes to race bikes. not cf to ti or steel race bikes, but country bikes to race bikes. if you think the many variables can, on average, overcom

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Patrick in VT
On Mar 14, 5:24 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 13:07 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: > The Hampsten Strada Bianca is arguably a country bike and also arguably > a racing bike.  Would have riders in this dirt road race been better > served on a Strada Bianca than any made-for-23mm-

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread David Estes
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > -snip- > > I might very well ride the 23 pound country bike, reckoning its > greater robustness gives me a better chance to finish the race > without mechanical problems or punctures, which'll get you dropped > faster than anything and put yo

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Tim McNamara
I debated internally a lot about replying since the thread is mainly about racing and not about Rivendells per se. And this seems to have some potential for some hard feelings over legitimate disagreements in cycling philosophy (I have been in a long drawn-out and rancorous debate in rec.

[RBW] Riv on Kingsbury Grade

2009-03-14 Thread Ray
Was it anyone from this forum nearing the top of Kingsbury Grade toward South Lake Tahoe at 3:00 pm on Friday? Regardless, nice looking Rivendell, rider. That was us who skirted by with the two Riv's racked on the rear bumper. RS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receive

[RBW] Today's Videos

2009-03-14 Thread Eric Norris
Three videos today for your March Madness viewing pleasure ... "Getting Ready to Ride" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-t41IIas4U "Chasing Wild Turkeys" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye4u6T9hpfw "Orange Man" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye4u6T9hpfw --Eric www.wheelsnorth.org www.campyonly.co

RE: [BOB] [RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

2009-03-14 Thread Doug Peterson
Just remember your photo ID for crossing Camp Pendleton. Have a great ride guys, I'll be looking for the photos. dougP -Original Message- From: internet-bob-boun...@bikelist.org [mailto:internet-bob-boun...@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of David Estes Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:45 AM To

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Angus
Patrick in VT, I will agree with you that, "everthing else being equal," a lighter bike is a better option for a race. But everthing else is not equal; there are many variables to account for. Joe Bartoe set faster times up hills with a heavier bike. I set my fastest time trial times (when I d

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 13:07 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: > the thread started off with a sentiment that the riders would be > better served on country bikes in this *race.* I disagree, because I > think, on the whole, a country bike would put the racer at a > competitive disadvantage. > The Ham

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread David Estes
Yes, agreed, agreed, and agreed. I would only add, what I wanted to say originally (although didn't state it explicitly) was how 'bout racing on a 17.5lbs "country race bike". Fatter tired and some lower gears. Just enough so the racer isn't punished (as much!), but can instead transmit that ene

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Patrick in VT
to be clear, I'm not saying its just about the bike. as others have pointed out, there are many variables to account for. my point is this: if you are in a race, riding a lighter bike is a competitive advantage. and most people who race want the competitive advantage, and rightly so. it's par

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Charles Pockell-Wilson
I own an AHH. It's standard configuration includes a triple, 32mm tires, and fenders. No racks. It's a great bike for family rides, commuting, winter training, and mixed terrain rides. I ride it occasionally on some of the local club rides and can honestly say it does not hold me back. There is a t

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Joe Bartoe
To chime in once again, I have a lot of experience on two very different bikes ridden by "otherwise identical riders". The "otherwise identical riders" would be me and myself. The hills ridden would be the same ones during the same week on the two different bikes. The two bikes would be a Ri

[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

2009-03-14 Thread David Estes
Yes! Last minute invite to all interest folks... Great ride planned up the OC coast, from Oceanside to Dana Point. Meeting at a leisurely 10:00 at Oceanside Transit Center. Any and all are welcome! more info: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1007...@n22/discuss/72157612528169053/ About 60 miles ro

[RBW] Re: March Riv Ride

2009-03-14 Thread Timothy Whalen
Just double checking. Ride still Sunday at 10? And this is the Oceanside Transit Center in Oceanside CA, right? Stranger in town, Tim On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > > The ride is this Sunday, meeting at the Oceanside Transit Center.

[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too

2009-03-14 Thread Bill M.
I don't know about you guys, but on a significant climb I'm usually already going about as hard as I can without risking blowing up entirely. I don't have another 5% to give. Under those conditions, losing 3 meters to the 'identical cyclist' means being out of conversation (or drafting) range, a