I feel the discussion about ease of installation on Linux (/*NIX type
systems) isn't really relevant to the Pros and Cons of R.
The problems encountered by people are often a consequence of their lack of
knowledge/understanding of the operating system, and not a deficiency of R
itself.
Just my t
On Tue, 27-May-2008 at 06:17AM -0700, DavidM.UK wrote:
|>
|> I don't think it's an issue with Linux functionality at all, it's a
|> case of having your linux machine configured correctly -- which
|> isn't a straight forward issue.
Since configuration has a direct bearing on functionality, we're
K. Elo wrote:
Hi,
Monica Pisica wrote:
> - There is no perfect “beginner” book.
How about
- Crawley, Michael (2007). The R book, Wiley & Sons.
- Maindonald, John & John Braun (2007): Data Analysis and Graphics Using
R (2nd edition), Cambridge University Press.
As a political scientist (with
R is definitely an excellent environment for data analysis and display. It
has quickly become the tool that I use to bind together different models and
process the resulting data into reports and graphics. The Sweave package can
be especially useful for accomplishing this.
R has also been integra
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, DavidM.UK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think one significant problem is the lack of 3D graphics support with
> interactivity as per MATLAB ( I here Xgobi offers something hear but I
> couldn't comment having not used it)
Have you tried the rgl package?
instal
I think one significant problem is the lack of 3D graphics support with
interactivity as per MATLAB ( I here Xgobi offers something hear but I
couldn't comment having not used it)
On the GUI issue, I'm split - once you get used to R then it's great just to
use the command line - but as a language
GREGOR Brian J wrote:
Monica, here are some other Pros to consider about R:
2) R facilitates documentation and replication.
When I finally made the effort to learn how to make R packages, I
experienced a substantial increase in my productivity. Before I start
coding a new functi
I even carry a copy of R on a USB so that I can do a
bit of work on a machine that does not have it
installed. It's a bit slow and one would not want to
do anything major with it but it's handy to show
someone a quick graph or check something when far from
the office.
--- seanpor <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Yes, but R is not a spectator sport and that is the beauty of it.
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Monica, here are some other Pros to consider about R:
1) IMHO, the most impo
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Monica Pisica wrote:
- You can save scripts, but not *.exe.
If you want to contrast R with statistical packages like SPSS or Stata
(and if your audience has rather a background in those than in general
purpose languages), I think this is not really a problem unless I missed
something recentl
Neil Shephard wrote:
>
> Another pro to consider is the cost, you can obtain R for free,
> SAS/S-Plus/Stata all have licenses of some sort that require purchasing.
>
> Neil
>
Which has the side effect of *not* restricting how many machines are
available for use or where; e.g. I was running bi
Installation under Gentoo is straightforward too (emerge dev-lang/R).
Updating has never really been a problem. CRAN packages are rebuilt if
needed when updating R, and periodically all you need to do is fire up R and
use update.packages() to update any packages you've installed.
Another pro to
Ureta
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:53 PM
To: Monica Pisica
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Pros and Cons of R
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities
> to deal with and analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and
> conne
R has very good GUI packages that I have used -
R Commander RCmdr and Rattle rattle . Since I work on multiple packages with
constraints of time, I almost always use the GUI rather go through the
intricacies of command line .
The log of these GUIs shows the relevant R command that was used, so you
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 02:07:01PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2008, Monica Pisica wrote:
[...]
> >When a new R version is in place you
> >cannot up-grade your old R version, you have to do a new
> >installation and re-load all the packages you used to have
> >and delete / un-in
em ;-)
Thanks so much for your replies,
Monica> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:14:11 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: r-help@r-project.org> Subject: Re: [R] Pros and Cons of
R> > Monica Pisica wrote:> > > > Cons:> > > > -
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Monica Pisica wrote:
I don't consider packages as up-grades, i consider them as
enhancements . When a new R version is in place you
cannot up-grade your old R version, you have to do a new
installation and re-load all the packages you used to have
and delete / un-inst
ng everything with very little hassle, it may confuse and even frustrate others less dedicated to using R. So - in my opinion - for a novice in R this might be a "minus".
Monica> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@r-project.org> Subject: RE: [R] Pros and Cons
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Monica Pisica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities to
> deal with and analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and connections
> with GIS. I've used in my presentation info from the
a way of installing everything
> with very little hassle, it may confuse and even frustrate others less
> dedicated to using R. So - in my opinion - for a novice in R this might be a
> "minus".
>
> Monica> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@r
ica Pisica wrote:
Thanks for the heads up - i will add that to the "pros".
Monica> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@r-project.org> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:32:06 -0700> Subject: RE: [R] Pros and Cons of R> > On the 64-bit part, I tested 2.7.0 on
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities
> to deal with and analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and
> connections with GIS. I've used in my presentation info from the CRAN, the
> spatial Task view, and the more striking graphics examples from
> h
Hi,
Monica Pisica wrote:
> - There is no perfect “beginner” book.
How about
- Crawley, Michael (2007). The R book, Wiley & Sons.
- Maindonald, John & John Braun (2007): Data Analysis and Graphics Using
R (2nd edition), Cambridge University Press.
As a political scientist (with programming exp
Thanks for the heads up - i will add that to the "pros".
Monica> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@r-project.org>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:32:06 -0700> Subject: RE: [R] Pros and Cons of R> >
On the 64-bit part, I tested 2.7.0 on a Dual Core
rate how to do familiar
things using R.> > > Charles Annis, P.E.> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> phone:
561-352-9699> eFax: 614-455-3265> http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com> > >
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On> B
This is about the 8761st time that this old warhorse has been discussed on
this list. I suggest you search the archives (e.g. via CRAN, Gmane,
Google,...) for these prior discussions.
-- Bert Gunter
Genentech
P.S. Incidentally, the answer to your question is "It depends..." -- on what
your appli
: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:00 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Pros and Cons of R
Hi,
I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities to
deal with and analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and connections with
GIS. I've used in my presentation info from the
eFax: 614-455-3265
http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:00 PM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Pros and Cons of R
Hi,
I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R
Hello,
I enjoy using R, and find the excellence of this newsgroup removes most of the
altitude of the "learning curve". Any learning curve, IMHO, is more than offset
by the benefits and capabilities of the language and its awesome plotting tools.
A grateful advocate,
John
Kevin E. Thorpe wro
Wensui Liu wrote:
agree,
i think R is more like a standard program language than SAS. however,
SAS programmer might not feel intuitive to pick up R.
That says more about SAS programmers than it does about R.
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agree,
i think R is more like a standard program language than SAS. however,
SAS programmer might not feel intuitive to pick up R.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Kevin E. Thorpe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Monica Pisica wrote:
>>
>> Cons:
>>
>> - R has a very steep learning curve.
>
> I don't
Monica Pisica wrote:
>
> Cons:
>
> - R has a very steep learning curve.
I don't think the learning curve is any steeper than SAS programming,
it is just a different kind of curve.
--
Kevin E. Thorpe
Biostatistician/Trialist, Knowledge Translation Program
Assistant Professor, Department of Pub
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Monica Pisica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - It seems that it is hard to install correctly under Linux.
Actually, it is quite easy to install R under Linux, at least in some
distributions. For instance, on Fedora:
yum install R R-devel
and that is it.
Paul
Hi,
I am doing a very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities to
deal with and analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and connections with
GIS. I've used in my presentation info from the CRAN, the spatial Task view,
and the more striking graphics examples from
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