Charles,
 
I don't consider packages as up-grades, i consider them as enhancements ..... 
When a new R version is in place you cannot up-grade your old R version, you 
have to do a new installation and re-load all the packages you used to have and 
delete / un-install the old version.... of course you can customize how you do 
this but it is not an up-grade per se as you would go for example from 
"softname" v.3 to "softname" v.4 using an up-grad einstead of a full 
installation version. New versions of R are always full versions ..... while 
this does not bother me a bit since now i have a way of installing everything 
with very little hassle, it may confuse and even frustrate others less 
dedicated to using R. So - in my opinion - for a novice in R this might be a 
"minus". 
 
Monica> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; r-help@r-project.org> 
Subject: RE: [R] Pros and Cons of R> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:24:49 -0400> > 
What do you mean, "there are no up-grades?" There are 1,401 ancillary> packages 
- all free. That sounds like upgrades to me.> > Of course there is no *perfect* 
beginner's book, but Peter Dalgaard's> Introductory Statistics with R 
(Paperback), Springer, 3d printing edition> (January 9, 2004) is pretty close. 
If you don't know much statistics, it> will teach you statistics while teaching 
you R. If you already know> statistics, it will demonstrate how to do familiar 
things using R.> > > Charles Annis, P.E.> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> phone: 
561-352-9699> eFax: 614-455-3265> http://www.StatisticalEngineering.com> > > 
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On> Behalf Of Monica Pisica> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:00 PM> To: 
r-help@r-project.org> Subject: [R] Pros and Cons of R> > > Hi,> > I am doing a 
very informal presentation for my office about R capabilities> to deal with and 
analyze spatial data, display data and maps, and> connections with GIS. I've 
used in my presentation info from the CRAN, the> spatial Task view, and the 
more striking graphics examples from> 
http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/thumbs.php and NCEAS> 
http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/scicomp/GISSeminar/UseCases/MapProdWithRGraphics/O> 
neMapProdWithRGraphics.html together with examples of my own work.> > I am 
finishing with pros and cons about R and I am wondering if you can come> up 
with other examples, or comments. Here they are:> > Pros:> > - R is a 
programming environment well suited for statistical analysis.> - R is open 
source and cross platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux).> - Fortran, C (C++), and 
Python wrappers are in place.> - Deals well with spatial data, has a robust 
graphical interface and has an> active user group list / forum.> - External 
packages for R are almost daily increasing, most of them based on> published 
up-to-date books and peer-reviewed articles.> - R related books - quite a few 
..> > Cons:> > - R has a very steep learning curve.> - There is no perfect 
"beginner" book.> - Experience with other programming languages is a plus / 
minus.> - You can save scripts, but not *.exe.> - It is updated several times a 
year (good) but there are no up-grades.> - It seems that it is hard to install 
correctly under Linux.> - Everything you want to do is a command line, minimal 
GUI.> - Memory management problems (depends on your OS), especially when> 
displaying big images at high resolution or working with huge matrices> 
(hundreds of Mb).> > Also i am wondering if R works under 64 bit computers and 
if it takes> advantage of it.> > Thanks,> > Monica> > 
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