Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-29 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:44:27PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 29.03.2017 08:46, Markus Armbruster wrote: > > "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes: > > > >> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > >>> Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel > >>>

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-29 Thread Markus Armbruster
Thomas Huth writes: > On 29.03.2017 08:46, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Speci

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-29 Thread Thomas Huth
On 29.03.2017 08:46, Markus Armbruster wrote: > "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes: > >> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >>> Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel >>> unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: >>> * microsoft.com

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-29 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel > unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: > * microsoft.com publishes a DMARC policy that has p=reject > * some subscribers use mail systems that ho

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Markus Armbruster
"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes: > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >> Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel >> unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: >> * microsoft.com publishes a DMARC policy that has p=reject >> * some

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Eric Blake
On 03/28/2017 01:28 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >> (2) I could reconfigure mailman to try to not rewrite anything that >> we think is likely to be signed (in particular not the body or the >> subject) >>* this means dropping the [qemu-devel] tag from the subject, which I'm >>

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Eric Blake
On 03/28/2017 12:53 PM, Andrew Baumann via Qemu-devel wrote: >> (3) I could set dmarc_moderation_action to Munge From, which means that >> those senders who have a p=reject policy will get their mails >> rewritten to have a From="Whoever (via the list) " >> and their actual email i

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:35:55PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel > unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: > * microsoft.com publishes a DMARC policy that has p=reject > * some subscribers use mail systems that ho

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Peter Maydell
On 28 March 2017 at 18:53, Andrew Baumann wrote: >> From: Peter Maydell [mailto:peter.mayd...@linaro.org] >> (1) I could set dmarc_moderation_action=Reject >>* this means nobody can subscribe if they've set their dmarc policy >> to reject (the "if you don't believe in mailing lists we do

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Andrew Baumann via Qemu-devel
> From: Peter Maydell [mailto:peter.mayd...@linaro.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2017 10:36 > > Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel > unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: > * microsoft.com publishes a DMARC policy that has p=reject > * some sub

[Qemu-devel] qemu-devel mailing list vs DMARC and microsoft.com's p=reject policy

2017-03-28 Thread Peter Maydell
Hi; it's been pointed out to me that we have a problem with qemu-devel unsubscribing people because of DMARC. Specifically: * microsoft.com publishes a DMARC policy that has p=reject * some subscribers use mail systems that honour this and send bounces for non-verifying emails from those domai