Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-05-03 Thread Eduardo Habkost
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 08:53:29PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 26.04.2018 20:44, Alex Bennée wrote: > > > > Thomas Huth writes: > > > >> On 26.04.2018 18:09, Alex Bennée wrote: > >>> > >>> Thomas Huth writes: > >>> > On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: > > People following old i

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Max Filippov
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 26.04.2018 18:09, Alex Bennée wrote: >> Thomas Huth writes: >>> Actually, with certain CPUs, you can really use the "none" machine as a >>> pure instruction set testing system. For example, on m68k, there used to >>> be an explicit "dummy"

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Thomas Huth
On 26.04.2018 20:44, Alex Bennée wrote: > > Thomas Huth writes: > >> On 26.04.2018 18:09, Alex Bennée wrote: >>> >>> Thomas Huth writes: >>> On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: > People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine > specified, and there is no

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Alex Bennée
Thomas Huth writes: > On 26.04.2018 18:09, Alex Bennée wrote: >> >> Thomas Huth writes: >> >>> On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine specified, and there is no default" and run -machine help to pick a new ma

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Peter Maydell
On 26 April 2018 at 19:18, Thomas Huth wrote: > I don't think it makes sense to instantiate e.g. an interrupt controller > with the "none" machine automatically ... so the raw cortex-m3 core > should either be usable without that, too The interrupt controller in an M-profile core is an integral p

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Thomas Huth
On 26.04.2018 18:09, Alex Bennée wrote: > > Thomas Huth writes: > >> On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: >>> People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine >>> specified, and there is no default" and run -machine help to pick a >>> new machine. Lay people might consid

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-26 Thread Alex Bennée
Thomas Huth writes: > On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: >> People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine >> specified, and there is no default" and run -machine help to pick a >> new machine. Lay people might consider the null-machine to be such a >> basic starting

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Huth
On 25.04.2018 17:33, Alex Bennée wrote: > People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine > specified, and there is no default" and run -machine help to pick a > new machine. Lay people might consider the null-machine to be such a > basic starting point but they won't get far

[Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] hw/core: expand description of null-machine

2018-04-25 Thread Alex Bennée
People following old instructions for QEMU get the message "No machine specified, and there is no default" and run -machine help to pick a new machine. Lay people might consider the null-machine to be such a basic starting point but they won't get far. This leads to confusion, see https://bugs.laun