Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Cheryl Fay
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Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Harry Percival
WOOHOO! Let the reply-all madness begin. Happy New Year, everyone. Cheryl: embarrassing. Don't think Tom's ever going to talk to you again... On 3 January 2013 09:48, Cheryl Fay wrote: > Hi Tom, > > > > Are you still looking for a new opportunity ? > > Really keen in speaking with you if you a

Re: [python-uk] python-uk Digest, Vol 113, Issue 2

2013-01-03 Thread Hansel Dunlop
pply their office for > our nefarious purposes. > > 30 tickets, hot off the presses, see you in a week: > http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/london-python-code-dojo-season-4-episode-5 > > Cheers, and Happy New Year! > Tom > @tomviner - @ldnpydojo > > --

[python-uk] Recall: New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Cheryl Fay
Cheryl Fay would like to recall the message, "[python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY". ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

[python-uk] Recall: New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Cheryl Fay
Cheryl Fay would like to recall the message, "[python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY". ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

[python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Andy Robinson
As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing just that and cutting off conversations, so a few years ago there was a general vote to change it. In t

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Álex González
I will find really annoying that a default behaviour reply-to-sender in a public list. My 2 cents :) Happy New Year and see you on the Dojo! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: > As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. > > Currently the emails are set to 'reply

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Fields
As a long time lurker, I'm happy with the way it works currently (ie. reply-to-list by default). I think it's useful to have to default conversation be to the community as a whole, even if that sometimes comes with the added benefit of a demonstration of some users email skill level. Plus peo

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Walter Prins
On 3 January 2013 11:49, Álex González wrote: > I will find really annoying that a default behaviour reply-to-sender in a > public list. Agree with Álex FWIW. Slightly unfortunate though this mornings entertainment has been, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I find it somewhat infuriatin

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: > As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. > > Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It > used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing > just that and cutting off conversations,

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Daniele Procida
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Andy Robinson wrote: >Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It >used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing >just that and cutting off conversations, so a few years ago there was >a general vote to change it. > >In the li

Re: [python-uk] Recall: New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Harry Percival
I think if you hit "recall message" a third time, it might work... On 3 January 2013 11:28, Cheryl Fay wrote: > Cheryl Fay would like to recall the message, "[python-uk] New Year's London > Dojo Next MONDAY". > ___ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael Foord
On 3 Jan 2013, at 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: > As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. > > Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It > used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing > just that and cutting off conversations, so a

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Andy Robinson
On 3 January 2013 11:57, Jonathan Lange wrote: > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html makes a compelling case > for choosing 'reply to sender' over 'reply to the list'. > Yes, I think the mailman user interface points to this article as well and recommends the default of 'reply to sen

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Antonio Cavallo
For the added "entertainment" value alone I'll leave as it is! But on the other end emails like these could lead to people losing their job or worst, and only for a momentary lapse of reason (or butter fingers). So all in weighted, I'm in for changing the reply-to field to the originator's em

Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Harry Percival
Yeah yeah yeah. Nice attempt at a cover-up Tom. Are any of Tom's colleagues or managers on here? Looks like someone is shopping around! Better give Tom a raise... On 3 January 2013 12:41, Tom Viner wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Harry, I'd already archived the email not noticing > it came v

Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Tom Viner
Thanks for the heads up Harry, I'd already archived the email not noticing it came via the list serve. Luckily I do find it all hilarious, especially: '''Cheryl Fay would like to recall the message, "[python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY".''' Just to confirm, in terms of grammar, you ca

Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Tom Viner
Thanks for the heads up Harry, I'd already archived the email not noticing it came via the list serve. Luckily I do find it all hilarious, especially: '''Cheryl Fay would like to recall the message, "[python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY".''' Just to confirm, in terms of grammar, you ca

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Alex Willmer
On 3 January 2013 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: > In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python > developers on this list (well, all but one of them...) happy with the > way it currently works? +1 reply-to-list The convenience of the many outweighs the fat-fingers of the few.

Re: [python-uk] New Year's London Dojo Next MONDAY

2013-01-03 Thread Tom Viner
Nice doing business with you Harry ;-) On 3 January 2013 12:43, Harry Percival wrote: > Yeah yeah yeah. Nice attempt at a cover-up Tom. Are any of Tom's > colleagues or managers on here? Looks like someone is shopping > around! Better give Tom a raise... > > On 3 January 2013 12:41, Tom Vine

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Steve Barnes
On 03/01/13 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing just that and cutting off conversations, so a few years ago th

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:51AM +, Andy Robinson wrote: > In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python > developers on this list (well, all but one of them...) happy with the > way it currently works? No. Reply-to-list is almost never correct. There is even less excuse

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Daniele Procida
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Jon Ribbens wrote: >On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:51AM +, Andy Robinson wrote: >> In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python >> developers on this list (well, all but one of them...) happy with the >> way it currently works? > >No. Reply-to-list is

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Stestagg
I'm for keeping it, reply-to-list is easier for me, and definitely more entertaining, at times Steve On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Daniele Procida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Jon Ribbens wrote: > > >On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:51AM +, Andy Robinson wrote: > >> In the light of this mo

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread xtian
On 3 Jan 2013 15:19, "Jon Ribbens" wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:51AM +, Andy Robinson wrote: > > In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python > > developers on this list (well, all but one of them...) happy with the > > way it currently works? > > No. Reply-to-

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread meitham
> No. Reply-to-list is almost never correct. There is even less excuse > than usual (which would be almost none) on a "technical" list. +1 I can't get the new gmail web interface to reply to individual instead of replying to list, not without composing a new email from scratch. M _

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:21:00PM +, Daniele Procida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Jon Ribbens wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:51AM +, Andy Robinson wrote: > >> In the light of this morning's, er, entertainment, are the Python > >> developers on this list (well, all but one of the

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:47:31PM +, Stestagg wrote: >I'm for keeping it, reply-to-list is easier for me, How can it be easier? Does your mail software really not have 'reply to list' or 'reply to all' buttons? ___ python-uk mailing list python-

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread David Walker
+1 You could click the "UK Python Users" address to delete that, then copy and paste the email address from the original email. Reply should do what it always does, which is reply to the person who sent the email. On 3 January 2013 15:57, meitham wrote: > > No. Reply-to-list is almost never co

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Daniele Procida
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, David Walker wrote: >You could click the "UK Python Users" address to delete that, then copy and >paste the email address from the original email. >Reply should do what it always does, which is reply to the person who sent >the email. No, this is a list for discussing things

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Oliver Hilton
Before this descends into an eternal and excruciatingly dull back and forth on the merits of different email clients, operating systems, deities etc.. all of which boil down to personal preference (yes despite the fact your own personal opinion is clearly the only valid one) can we just run a we

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:25:00PM +, Daniele Procida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, David Walker wrote: > >You could click the "UK Python Users" address to delete that, then copy and > >paste the email address from the original email. > >Reply should do what it always does, which is reply to t

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Antonio Cavallo
like this? http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a :D Oliver Hilton wrote: Before this descends into an eternal and excruciatingly dull back and forth on the merits of different email clients, operating systems, deities etc.. all of which boil down to personal preference

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: > like this? > > http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard list behaviour, which is "Reply-To unchanged from the sender's email". _

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Antonio Cavallo
done it for you :) Jon Ribbens wrote: "Reply-To unchanged from the sender's email ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Andy Robinson
On 3 January 2013 17:07, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: >> like this? >> >> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard > list behaviour, which is "Reply-T

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael Foord
On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: >> like this? >> >> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard > list behaviour, which is "Rep

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread E Hartley
On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:13, Michael Foord wrote: > > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: >>> like this? >>> >>> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a >> >> I don't want either of those options

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread René Dudfield
>>> my['2p'] == 'reply-to-list' True ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +, Michael Foord wrote: > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens wrote: > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard > > list behaviour, which is "Reply-To unchanged from the sender's email". > > However sincerely (and obstinately) you

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Matt Hamilton
On 3 Jan 2013, at 16:25, Daniele Procida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, David Walker wrote: > >> You could click the "UK Python Users" address to delete that, then copy and >> paste the email address from the original email. >> Reply should do what it always does, which is reply to the person wh

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread xtian
Amusingly, you've replied to the wrong person - meitham was the one complaining about the gmail interface. I hope you don't mind me cc-ing the list, because it kind of illustrates my point. ;) I sent my initial message from a client that had both reply and reply-all buttons side-by-side, so when b

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael
On 3 January 2013 17:13, Michael Foord wrote: > > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens > wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 04:41:27PM +, Antonio Cavallo wrote: > >> like this? > >> > >> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50e5b456e4b04de5024a > > > > I don't want either of those opti

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael
On 3 January 2013 17:29, Jon Ribbens wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +, Michael Foord wrote: > > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens > > wrote: > > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, standard > > > list behaviour, which is "Reply-To unchanged from the s

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:41:31PM +, Michael wrote: > On 3 January 2013 17:29, Jon Ribbens wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +, Michael Foord wrote: > > > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens > > > wrote: > > > > I don't want either of those options, I want the proper, stand

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread John Pinner
On 3 January 2013 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: > As a list admin I supposed I ought to ask this again. > > Currently the emails are set to 'reply to the list' by default. It > used to be 'reply to sender' but too many people found they were doing > just that and cutting off conversations, so a f

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael
On 3 January 2013 22:41, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:41:31PM +, Michael wrote: >> On 3 January 2013 17:29, Jon Ribbens wrote: >> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +, Michael Foord wrote: >> > > On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:07, Jon Ribbens >> > > wrote: >> > > > I don't wa

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Daniele Procida
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Michael wrote: >Or is he wrong about your apparent obstinate belief in your desires ? >(I personally would have said petulant) That's uncalled-for. It would be gauche to end up trading insults over reply-to settings, and we don't want to be gauche, do we? Daniele ___

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Michael
On 3 January 2013 23:24, Daniele Procida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Michael wrote: > >>Or is he wrong about your apparent obstinate belief in your desires ? >>(I personally would have said petulant) > > That's uncalled-for. > > It would be gauche to end up trading insults over reply-to setting

Re: [python-uk] The perils of reply-to

2013-01-03 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:40:54PM +, Michael wrote: > On 3 January 2013 23:24, Daniele Procida wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013, Michael wrote: > > > >>Or is he wrong about your apparent obstinate belief in your desires ? > >>(I personally would have said petulant) > > > > That's uncalled-for.