Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread John Pinner
HI, At the risk of repeating other (lengthy) discussions on this subject from 18 months ago... On 1 April 2010 02:39, Jon Ribbens > wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Ed Stafford wrote: > >Mike, > > > >Glad it worked for you. Although the Ubuntu team does a fine job of >

Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread Jonathan Hartley
On 01/04/2010 02:39, Jon Ribbens wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Ed Stafford wrote: Mike, Glad it worked for you. Although the Ubuntu team does a fine job of package management I'm still a bit hesitant to use their python packages. It's easy enough using van

Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread Ed Stafford
Hello, Without trying to argue about the purity of package managers or their uses I would say that the reality is that there are some issues with dependable python packages supplied for various distros. Because of that I always find it easier to manage the necessary packages myself, that's all I w

Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:51:31AM +0100, John Pinner wrote: > I strongly advise not using easy_install, it's awful. > >Yes, because it's trying to solve the problems of package management on >systems without a'proper'  package manager, it compromises those systems >with one. Wel

Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:59:20AM +0100, Jonathan Hartley wrote: > On 01/04/2010 02:39, Jon Ribbens wrote: >> I strongly advise not using easy_install, it's awful. > > Living up to your domain name, I see. Someone else has equivocal.co.uk I'm afraid :-p > I might have preferred the gentler 'has

Re: [python-uk] easy_install pip won't work, am concerned Ministry of Packaging may chase after me.

2010-04-01 Thread Mike MacCana
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM, John Pinner wrote: > > The issue with using the Python utils is that they do not play with the > distibution's package management. For example, they do not cooperate over > dependencies, nor provide a clean uninstall. No self-respecting sysadmin > would dream of u