HI, At the risk of repeating other (lengthy) discussions on this subject from 18 months ago...
On 1 April 2010 02:39, Jon Ribbens <jon+python...@unequivocal.co.uk<jon%2bpython...@unequivocal.co.uk> > wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Ed Stafford wrote: > > Mike, > > > > Glad it worked for you. Although the Ubuntu team does a fine job of > > package management I'm still a bit hesitant to use their python > packages. > The problem is that they're usually out-of-date. The same goes for debian whence Ubuntu obtain their packages. The advantage of using Ubuntu/Debian packages, where up-to-date ones exist, is that your system is under consistent control of the system's package manager. > It's easy enough using vanilla python to get everything you need going. > The issue with using the Python utils is that they do not play with the distibution's package management. For example, they do not cooperate over dependencies, nor provide a clean uninstall. No self-respecting sysadmin would dream of using them, simply because they are independent of the system's package management ( eg apt or yum). In > > the future you can do the following just as easily. > > > > `wget > > [1]http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py`<http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py%60> > > `sudo python ez_setup.py` > > `sudo easy_install pip virtualenv virtualenvwrapper` > > I strongly advise not using easy_install, it's awful. > Yes, because it's trying to solve the problems of package management on systems without a'proper' package manager, it compromises those systems with one. I think that the solution here is for the Python package maintainers to make sure that *they* provide the Debian/Ubuntu/Red Hat/SUSE/whatever packages, and not rely on the hard-pressed distribution maintainers. A kludge that I use is to download the Python package, eg xlwt, then do a setup.py build, and run alien on the resulting tar.gz to produce a .deb or .rpm. At least I get a package which can be installed/uninstalled by the system package manager, although Python dependencies will not be managed without a bit of tweaking. Best wishes, John -- _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK
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