Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-09 Thread Ed Singleton
On 7 Oct 2009, at 09:27, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: Just out of interest, what helpful features over and above the regular python shell does ipython/bpython provide, and how will this enhance the Dojo..? One particularly useful feature is doctest-mode. Which makes the shell look just like

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Edward Hartley
Sent from my iPhone at last the handheld that works! On 7 Oct 2009, at 12:41, Dave Kirby wrote: As Tim says, ipython is a superset of the regular python shell, so you can ignore all the features and get along with it just fine. The features I find most useful (and which I think will be of b

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Dave Kirby
As Tim says, ipython is a superset of the regular python shell, so you can ignore all the features and get along with it just fine. The features I find most useful (and which I think will be of benefit to the dojo) are context-sensitive tab completion and the help system. Using these is an order

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Tim, Thanks for the heads up... you've allayed my fears about the learning curve. Sounds like having *both* as options for participants is definitely a good idea and I'd definitely encourage people to "show off" these tools should they wish to use them. I'll add them to the list ;-) Nic

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Golden
Nicholas Tollervey wrote: Just out of interest, what helpful features over and above the regular python shell does ipython/bpython provide, and how will this enhance the Dojo..? If I'm right, they both offer basically a reworked Python interpreter with lots of bells and whistles. But the bel

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Yes, I realise my mistake... ;-) Just out of interest, what helpful features over and above the regular python shell does ipython/bpython provide, and how will this enhance the Dojo..? I don't mean to put you on the spot, but if I learned anything from the last Dojo it was that putting pe

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 6 Oct 2009, at 21:21, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: As for IronPython... I suppose that'll need some thought before-hand for the purposes of configuration. I know the Resolver guys will be there to call on for help and I don't mind getting the thing to run on Mono on my MacBook, but I think

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Michael Foord
Nicholas Tollervey wrote: [snip...] As for IronPython... I suppose that'll need some thought before-hand for the purposes of configuration. I know the Resolver guys will be there to call on for help and I don't mind getting the thing to run on Mono on my MacBook, but I think the whole subject

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Paul and Dave, Yes, we've definitely taken on board the mouse/keyboard/editor comments from the feedback at the end of the last dojo. We've got desktop machine running XP and/or Linux in the office that we could use... alternatively, if you can bring a laptop that'd be great. The reason I

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Damn, I forgot to mention that you can sign up at the following page: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/2nd-london-python-dojo Helps us to plan the seating / food if we know how many are coming... See you there... Nicholas. On 6 Oct 2009, at 16:54, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: Hello Pythonistas,

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Kirby
2009/10/6 Paul Nasrat : > We discussed at the end of the dojo ensuring > > 1) a windows keyboard/mouse available if on a mac > 2) a linux image with gedit, vim, emacs > I would like to put in a request for ipython to be included in the image, for interactive experimentation. Dave Kirby __

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Paul Nasrat
2009/10/6 Nicholas Tollervey : > Hello Pythonistas, > > Just a quick reminder that the second London Python Code Dojo will be taking > place 6:30pm next Thursday, 15th October at the same place as last time (the > offices of Fry-IT, address at the bottom - the pub over the road > afterwards). > > T

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-10-06 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Hello Pythonistas, Just a quick reminder that the second London Python Code Dojo will be taking place 6:30pm next Thursday, 15th October at the same place as last time (the offices of Fry-IT, address at the bottom - the pub over the road afterwards). This month's challenge is to create fr

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, On Sep/28/2009, Jon Ribbens wrote: > Also I'd like to put in a strong vote for part of the spec being that > the game will allow human v human, human v computer, or computer v > computer games (by entering "number of players: zero" ;-) ) Yes Dr. Falken! Sadly I will not be able to attend o

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:55:37PM +0100, Nicholas Tollervey wrote: > It's fantastic to see people engaged already but I think it best we keep > hold of our thoughts until Dojo - that way all participants start the > Dojo without having to read email exchanges here and elsewhere. Yes, I am tryin

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Jon, It's fantastic to see people engaged already but I think it best we keep hold of our thoughts until Dojo - that way all participants start the Dojo without having to read email exchanges here and elsewhere. As the comments in the code suggest, everything is open to change and we've o

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Jonathan Hartley
again! Jonathan Hartley wrote: inline Jon Ribbens wrote: Also I'd like to put in a strong vote for part of the spec being that the game will allow human v human, human v computer, or computer v computer games (by entering "number of players: zero" ;-) ) We talked about this during the dojo

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Jonathan Hartley
inline Jon Ribbens wrote: Also I'd like to put in a strong vote for part of the spec being that the game will allow human v human, human v computer, or computer v computer games (by entering "number of players: zero" ;-) ) We talked about this during the dojo planning meetup last week. We all

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Foord
Jon Ribbens wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:29:33PM +0100, Paul Nasrat wrote: I've looked through the skeletal code on github and that looks like a good start. The lines in the test code which look like this: assert state == [ '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', ] are

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:29:33PM +0100, Paul Nasrat wrote: > I've looked through the skeletal code on github and that looks like a > good start. The lines in the test code which look like this: assert state == [ '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', ] are somewhat making the assumpt

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Michael Foord
Nicholas Tollervey wrote: [snip...] Finally, http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ has always struck me as a fun thing to do in a group with the simple aim of expanding one's knowledge of Python's capabilities and libraries. Perhaps something fun for a Xmas "special"..? This sounds like a great

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-28 Thread Nicholas Tollervey
Paul, Thanks for the feedback! By shared learning outcome I'm assuming you mean a specific skill or item of knowledge that has been explained and practiced/exercised during the dojo? If so, then the honest answer is no, we don't have specific learning outcomes defined. I suspect this is

Re: [python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-27 Thread Paul Nasrat
2009/9/24 Bruce Durling : > We all enjoyed the last dojo so much we decided to have another one. > Fry-IT are hosting again. > > There is a sign up and information page here: > > http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/2nd-london-python-dojo > > We're doing tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses) with and AI oppon

[python-uk] 2nd London Python Dojo - 18:30 15 October 2009 at Fry-IT

2009-09-24 Thread Bruce Durling
We all enjoyed the last dojo so much we decided to have another one. Fry-IT are hosting again. There is a sign up and information page here: http://ldnpydojo.eventwax.com/2nd-london-python-dojo We're doing tic-tac-toe (noughts and crosses) with and AI opponent. 18:30 15 October 2009 Address: F