nches would be taken
> and the final bogus results might not contain NaNs.
>
> I personally think that comparing NaN with numbers or other
> NaNs should raise an exception. There's no valid result for
> such comparisons.
This, in big letters.
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de-python3ify it just change the line at the top and
cast your nums to floats, otherwise you'll get integer division (which
I again assume you don't want).
#! /usr/bin/env python3
import time
import multiprocessing
def functionTester(num):
return ((num+2)/(num-2))**2
num_args = [61,62,33,7,12,16,19,35,36,37,38,55,56,57,63]
num_processes = multiprocessing.cpu_count()
pool = multiprocessing.Pool(num_processes)
start = time.time()
results = pool.map(functionTester, num_args)
end = time.time()
# is this what you meant to do with the results?
max_result = max(results)
print("Result " + str(max_result))
elapsed = end - start
print("Took", elapsed, "seconds to execute")
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t seem to use lambda or a decorator to do
this, which would have been my first instinct. Pickle apparently
chokes, although marshall wouldn't.
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:49 PM, francesco
wrote:
> I'm pretty new in Python language. I have a problem with numbers: it
> seems python doesn't know any more how to count!
> I get only the down rounded integer
> 20/8 = 2
> 8/3=2
> I probably changed some option to round the numbers, but I don't
> r
e's problem. If PHP breaks on shared hosting,
> enough users will be screaming that it gets fixed.
>
> John Nagle
I'm not exactly a god unto sysadmins and I've had no problems with
either bargain-basement Python managed hosting or VPS's.
I'd encourage anybody looking at the differences between PHP and
Python to try both and get some hosting that lets you use either. I'm
pretty confident that in the long run Python will win out.
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ell as on the desktop.
>
> Hmm, this is like two double edged swords smashing one another in
> battle.
Seriously, get off of WoW and go write some code. If you'd spent the
last year programming instead of doing your best Xah Lee impression
you might have actually made some progre
accepted you'll be able to tell that to
potential employers.
At this point you'll probably have a much better idea of what you'd
like to do moving forward- you'll probably have found out what kinds
of problems you find interesting, which ones you have an aptitude for,
and what kin
a company like Google that is capable of the
> push required to move the language into the mainstream.
You might be right, but I doubt we'll know one way or the other in the
next 5 years. Personally, I'm hoping that functional language use
continues to grow.
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM, rantingrick wrote:
>
> I don't have the energy to chase my tail like you do.
Hahahahahahahaha. Troll.
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:50 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 16, 6:59 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>> Hahahahahahahaha. Troll.
>
>
> Coming from someone who actually gives advice on how to troll more
> efficiently.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2011-01-16, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Tim Harig wrote:
>>> On 2011-01-16, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>> If the author thinks that Go is a "tried and true" (his word
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2011-01-17, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Tim Harig wrote:
>>> On 2011-01-16, geremy condra wrote:
>>> I wouldn't say Go is narrowly targeted. It's a systems language that ca
structures using function
pointers, and languages like Python only provide encapsulation by
convention. There's no reason why that couldn't be true for C as well.
Ergo, if Go is OO, then C is OO.
> defer/panic/recover is conceptually a world closer to exceptions then is
> setjm
I am rather amazed at
> the number of things that can be accomplished in Python without
> having to bind to C.
Again, you don't know what you're talking about WRT PyPy.
> 2. There is a difference in binding to a solution that is already written
> in another language so as to not reinvent a wheel and implementing
> a *new* library in another language to be used exclusively
> with Python.
Even if that binding is done for performance reasons?
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to
> "solve" itself?
There's no chain of command here, genius. It's a mailing list.
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yptographic solution to a
problem in which the attacker and intended recipient are the same
person.
Schemes like this are at most an annoyance to people willing to
reverse engineer your code.
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wants to push for this is in for a hard,
multi-year slog. Nobody has stepped up to the plate to do any real
work towards that goal.
> Do they have to pay to license it or is this all freely contributed software?
I can't imagine non-free code making it in.
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:37 AM, geremy condra wrote:
> No, it's about other operating systems too, but what it comes down to
> is that rantingrick has been on the warpath about tkinter for a while,
> and hasn't proposed a particularly viable alternative. The sad thing
> is
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, rantingrick wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:40 PM, geremy condra
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:37 AM, geremy condra wrote:
>>> No, it's about other operating systems too, but what it comes down to
>>> is th
so long ago that has now waxed cold-- is
> somehow less important than Steve's or anyones work is a little
> condescending to say the least.
Condescending or not, it's true.
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ent that pervades this community as
> a whole. A fear of outsiders. A xenophobia if you will. We need to
> change this now!
There's a difference between 'we should' and 'we must'. One implies
that you are trying to convince, which is what communities of equals
do. The other implies that you are trying to command, which is what
idiots think they can do to communities of equals.
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black guys have
> stereotypical huge cucumbers.
Congratulations; you are the second person better than a decade to
land in my bozo bin. Don't bother replying- I won't be hearing from
you.
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example of how to use it, and a link to an excellent description
of how it works and when to use it.
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x27;zenity'
mode = '--entry'
text = "--text='Please confirm or edit the following string:'"
title = "--title='confirm or edit'"
entry = "--entry-text='%s'" % s
cmd = ' '.join([zenity, mode, text,
d unless
you're using Java, and even if that weren't the case Qt itself would
require an enormous effort to port. Perhaps you meant MeeGo?
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:40 AM, CM wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2:33 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, CM wrote:
>> > I guess for Android one can already develop with PyQt
>> > and it will run on desktop or phone?
>>
>> No. It
oth, and it doesn't do you a lot of favors.
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> From: "geremy condra"
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Octavian Rasnita
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I know, that's life, which is not right, that's faith, bla bla, but it
&
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> From: "geremy condra"
>>
>> There's a difference between what you say and how you say it. If a
>> friend came up to you and said "give me $100 right now!", you probably
>> wouldn
feeling good about the experience and
eager to not make the same mistake again.
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for your help.
I don't know much about your system, but just as a hunch I'd say that
if this is a major requirement you're screwed. The old maxim: there is
no cryptographic solution to the problem in which the attacker and
intended recipient are the same person.
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py comes up in every discussion
of cryptography in python on this list and, AFAICT, has yet to come under
significant cryptanalytic scrutiny. That doesn't make it a bad example in this
case, but I would caution the OP that it probably doesn't make it a good
candidate for your encryption needs.
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On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2010-04-04 17:44 , geremy condra wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2010-04-03 20:21 , Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In me
s not an option, you could run the whole
thing through dis and check that the bytecode is identical. There's
probably an easier way to do this though.
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red.
>>
>> Certainly no one should never use obfuscate's rot13 function for high
>> security. Use at least double-rot13 instead, or maybe even quadruple
>> rot13 ;-).
>
> Ha ha, that's funny! I've never heard that one before! *wink*
I think I
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 03:00:50 +, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:34:17 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>>
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Aahz wrote:
> In article ,
> geremy condra wrote:
>>On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:34:17 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>>> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>>&
gt; (('serialNumber', u'2497886'),),
> (('countryName', u'US'),),
> (('postalCode', u'94043'),),
> (('stateOrProvinceName', u'California'),),
>
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>
http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/crypt.html#module-crypt
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; '$1$abcdefgh$G//4keteveJp0qb8z2DxG/'
>
> Is that what it's supposed to return?
>
> Peter
Seems like my posts are dropping off of the net all of a sudden.
In case this didn't go through the first time...
http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/crypt.html#module-crypt
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pescrypto does not appear to be maintained, but I've started
a similar project called evpy (http://gitorious.org/evpy) that also
provides envelope encryption. Comments are welcome- we're
probably going to be doing our first release sometime towards
the middle of next month.
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like that's the
old-style MD5-based hash. It's far from 'broken', but it has a
few issues. Better would be to move to the SHA512-based
$6$ if your platform supports it.
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of text to a variable w/out special formatting.
> Thanks.
The '...' is the interpreter's way of telling you that you are in a
block, e.g. a function definition, with statement, etc.
The '\n' you see in the middle of the string is the newline
character. If you try to print the string, the expected
happens:
>>> d = """
... ddd"""
>>> d
'\nddd'
>>> print(d)
ddd
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ck (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, bool found
>>>
Should I chalk this up to stupid coder syndrome or file a bug report?
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interesting to know.
>
> Standard Unix behaviour dictates that 0 is stdin, 1 is stdout, and 2 is
> stderr. So you can only read() from 0.
>
> Stefan
Nitpicking, but open(1).read() and open(2).read() both succeed
(for small values of success) the same way that open(0).read()
does.
Thanks for the advice, everybody.
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c,
and I doubt tkinter is doing you much good.
I also recall someone at pycon talking about importing modules
from a .zip archive. I'm not sure how easy/hard that is, but you
may want to look at PEP 302.
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On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Nima wrote:
> Well, I tried to run Python with -v option. It seems that python26.zip is
> partially loaded but can't be used, because zlib is "unavailable".
is the zlib module among the files you've compressed?
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s probably best to use multiple processes to take
advantage of multiple cores. Take a look at the threading and
multiprocessing modules.
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t python is acting only as "quick
> and dirty work" nothing more !
Yeah, there's not really a lot of industry support. If only we could
get a huge search engine like bing to use python extensively we'd
be in a lot better shape.
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the standard library that makes slots
> more transparent, but since slots are intended as an optimization, it
> doesn't really need (and might be detrimental to have) transparency
> for ordinary objects.
>
> However, Aahz will be by shortly to tell you never to use slots.
Ok,
should draw the graph and print out the solution.
We use Dot in Graphine, and it works well. It's also very easy to
output to.
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Nima wrote:
> 2010/6/1 geremy condra
>>
>> We use Dot in Graphine, and it works well. It's also very easy to
>> output to.
>
>
>> Graphine is a flexible, easy-to-use graph library for Python 3.
>
> I always knew a day w
t; b = a
>>> c = [:]
>>> b[0] = 5
>>> b
[5,2,3,4]
>>> # here's the issue
>>> a
[5,2,3,4]
>>> # and the resolution
>>> c
[1,2,3,4]
Hope this helps.
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o here from the remnants of
> USENET!!
>
>> and never get answers...
>
> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level
> questions, here??!
I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right
place for you.
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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Phlip wrote:
> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level
>> > questions, here??!
>>
>> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right
>
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Phlip wrote:
> On Jun 3, 3:58 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Phlip wrote:
>> > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>>
>> >> > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-leve
three weeks ago. Has something changed
since then?
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on getting permission from the authors first this is a totally invalid
comparison.
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performance.
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defined)
> - As small as possible in its default form
>
> If so, what are the next steps?
>
> The Python SIG on GUIs closed years ago. Should that be revived?
>
> This is "A Modest Proposal" (J. Swift). In a sense, I am suggesting
> that
> we eat o
king on it
> to make it really good.
> 2c) Start from scratch. With a project supported by the Community as a
> whole, with the agreed objective of being the default.
>
> None of these is easy. All require strong leadership and great
> committment.
I take it you're volunteering?
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ution; so why complain that python included a Tcl
> expression engine in its standard distribution.
This is a silly argument.
REs are not full programming languages, even from a theoretical point
of view, aMSN is written in Tcl, as wikipedia would have told you, and
having to depend on the tools of another language to get commonly
desired functionality is not a good thing for a programming language.
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:40:51 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Lie Ryan wrote:
>
>>> Nobody complains that python included a regular expression engine in
>>> its stand
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 18:12 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>> > * IronPython relies on the .Net environment for everything
>> Since .Net (effectively) depends on Windows,
>
> 100% False; not "effectively"
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:12:05 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> I didn't argue that Tcl is bad. I argued that a dependency on it is bad
>> for python. Would you argue that Python should ship with Perl and Java
before these meddling forces can
>> take hold of him. He is so fearful of seeing the light in an opposing
>> argument that blinding himself from reality is easier than facing
>> reality.
>
> Ah, so you are a psychoanalyst, too? Amazing!
How do you think he mad so many incor
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> rantingrick wrote:
>>
>> I ate
>> three fishes just sounds wrong to me. What's the plural of sheep
>> Stephen :-D
>
> It's sheepses, isn't it? Am I missing something?
Shyp. Pronounced the sa
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 18:49 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 18:12 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>> >> > * Ir
the interpreter, or the stdlib, or trying to make some
specific change, or...?
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the wrong places.
> Thanks for any input!
its just like anything else- the pickier you are about what you do, the further
afield you're likely to have to go.
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#x27;s wrong with helping people? And what's it to you if
> others do?
Its not the helping. Its the asking for help.
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On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Stephen Hansen
wrote:
> On 6/10/10 3:17 PM, geremy condra wrote:
>> I mostly agree with you, but as Stephen points out you can't exactly
>> count on it being present now either, which more or less renders any
>> guarantee of backwards com
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:57 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jun 10, 5:17 pm, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> Whats the practical
>> difference between telling somebody that either tkinter works out of
>> the box or they'll have to satisfy an extra dependency and just telling
now either, which more or less renders any
guarantee of backwards compatibility moot IMO. Whats the practical
difference between telling somebody that either tkinter works out of
the box or they'll have to satisfy an extra dependency and just telling
them that they'll have to satisfy an
ing. Then and *only* then can we move forward with facts.
> Or you could just keep living in your self-aggrandizing fantasy world
> of "I'm always right and everyone else is the moron".
I'm currently doing an analysis of pypi data to see what modules are being
used and how much. If you're so interested in knowing how widely used
tkinter is, please contact me- we could certainly use some additional
processor time.
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changes just from pure spite.
This is the important part of life where you find out you aren't everybody
else's boss.
> So let me hear of ANY improvements and/or suggestions for Tkinter/IDLE
> docs, code, or whatever.
If you don't know of anything wrong with it, why raise this huge stink?
If you do, why are you asking us? Just go fix it.
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e to a drop in replacement extension module?
I did a similar thing using Java and the JNI, so this seems pretty plausible
to me. Having said that, it turned into a time sink very quickly, and there
were cases that I never got ironed out- I suspect the same would be true
here.
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cutoff for the use of the continuing fraction
approximation of erfc beginning when abs(x) > 30, but I'm not sure.
Is this desired behavior or should I file a bug report?
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On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2010-06-12 17:49 , geremy condra wrote:
>>
>> In Python3.2, calling math.erfc with a value in [-27.2, -30) raises
>> an OverflowError: math range error. This is inconsistent with the
>> erfc function from scipy (
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:49:37 -0700, geremy condra wrote:
>
>> In Python3.2, calling math.erfc with a value in [-27.2, -30) raises an
>> OverflowError: math range error. This is inconsistent with the erfc
each Jython
to emit Dalvik bytecode, etc, etc.
Something I haven't seen is whether Cython could be used indirectly;
I don't have the knowledge or skill with it to do more than speculate,
but that might be a profitable avenue for investigation.
Wish I had better news for you,
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interface to OpenSSL,
although it is by design limited to doing things the right way, so it
may not meet your needs.
Full disclosure, I'm its author.
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to simplify
>> the migration ;).
>
> The latest SVN of numpy works in Python 3.1 already. There are still some
> things to be fixed, but it's mostly done.
This is excellent news, thanks for pointing this out.
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anticipation for the inevitably
snarky replies of their inferiors.
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two = input('enter two numbers: ').split()
>> print(int(one) + int(two))
>>
>> I like names over subscripts, but that's just me :)
>
> Fore!
>
> print(sum(map(int, input('enter two numbers: ').split(
>
> Jean-Paul
I prefer football to golf:
print(sum([sum([(ord(j)-48)*10**pos for pos,j in
enumerate(reversed(i))]) for i in raw_input().split()]))
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes:
>
>> In article ,
>> geremy condra wrote:
>> >
>> >Bug filed, http://bugs.python.org/issue8986.
>>
>> Please don't put extraneous punctuation on URLs.
&
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> geremy condra writes:
>
>> You know, I've never been a part of a community in which the URL
>> format was the most contentious part of filing a bug report.
>
> Heck no, the bug report is already filed, and conte
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Shashwat Anand
wrote:
> Well, AFAIK Nokia N900 supports python fully.
Yup, my code has to run on these before it passes build tests. I
almost never have to
do anything crazy to it.
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have to learn to live without the pats on the back.
Geremy Condra
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:13:32 -0700
> geremy condra wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:29 PM, astral
>> wrote:
>> > I am looking for Python OpenSSL library, for Python version 2.5.4 (on
>> > Win
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le lundi 14 juin 2010 à 13:18 -0400, geremy condra a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Evpy[1] is designed to be a very easy-to-use interface to OpenSSL,
>> >> although it is by design limited to doing things the r
in fact doesn't.
>
>> is convenient, but insecure.
>
> In which case, it isn't actually convenient, in any meaningful sense of
> the word.
As one of my friends is fond of saying, it lets you talk encrypted to
your attacker ;)
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routines, perhaps a new module or
> package is best. In any case, feel free to open a entry at
> http://bugs.python.org and we can discuss it.
Issue opened:
http://bugs.python.org/issue8998
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and hoping for people to CC
> you in their replies?
That was beautiful. I think I've got something in my eye.
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. Then I got to know gedit's latex plugin better,
and started doing literate code. Pretty much all gedit now.
Still feels slightly dirty.
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ly.
Both the lead for M2Crypto and the authors of zc.ssl have publicly
stated that this needs to be fixed.
Geremy Condra
[0] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2010-April/1242166.html
[1] http://bugs.python.org/issue1589
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to provide a patch for
> the py3k ssl module, and will gladly review it.
I'm not sure what this fixes if it doesn't get used in the higher-level
modules, but I can ask if anybody is interested.
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d bug report:
http://bugs.python.org/issue9003
Just for the record, I'd rather see this fixed than note the need for a
workaround.
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Mark Young wrote:
> HAHA. I apologize for my apparently incorrect criticism nanothermite.
I made the mistake of asking him not to put all of this in his .sig,
which has apparently been taken to mean that he should just
post it instead. Apologies.
Geremy Con
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