al (namely, textfile, me, and you)
The line preceeding it,
s = smtplib.SMTP()
needs to have an e-mail server specified. E.g.
s = smtplib.SMTP('localhost') # from the 2.5 docs
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Robert Kern wrote:
On 2009-10-09 19:08 PM, David Robinow wrote:
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
A puzzlement:
I used easy_install the other day to get xlutils on my system. It
automatically installed xlrd and xlwt as well. This is cool. What's
not so
cool a
David Robinow wrote:
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
A puzzlement:
I used easy_install the other day to get xlutils on my system. It
automatically installed xlrd and xlwt as well. This is cool. What's not so
cool are my tracebacks. E.g.
Python 2.5.4 (r254:67916
than that, are there other inherent problems with using that
decorator at non-import times?
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>Ethan Furman wrote:
>> A puzzlement:
>>
>> I used easy_install the other day to get xlutils on my system. It
>> automatically installed xlrd and xlwt as well. This is cool. What's
>> not so cool are my tracebacks. E.g.
>>
>> Python 2.5.4 (r25
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:57:08 -0300, Steven D'Aprano
escribió:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:37:28 -0700, Buck wrote:
Here's a scenario. A user does a cvs checkout into some arbitrary
directory and sees this:
project/
+-- python/
+-- animals.py
+-- mammals/
ut I am not aware of
*any* programming costruct that cannot be. If you rule out one way of
doing things for every situation you can end up making messes just as
bad as the ones you're trying to avoid.
Good programming, as all good endeavors, requires thinking too.
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, it's not going to start looking all over the hard-drive
for it. If that were the case you would have to be extra careful to
have every module's name be distinct, and then what's the point of
having packages?
~Ethan~
In my humble opinion if these actions are not possib
tion"... seems to
me that if you have to copy it, check it out, or anything to get the
code from point A to point 'usable on your computer', then you have done
some sort of installation.
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, perhaps you noticed the flag
"topdown=False"? With that (un)set, I repeat the question -- why do you
need a hook?
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nd you, I'm not saying you should change the way you program as it
seems to work for you, just that there are other ways to write good
clean programs.
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?
Thanks
Janto
You might look at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/blist/0.9.4
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-)
For what it's worth, most of my loops run to completion, with no sign of
a break anywhere. Some have a break, and use it. Some, even, (dare I
say it?) use break *and* else! And it's awesome! Go Python! :-D
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Janto Dreijer wrote:
On Oct 13, 7:37 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
Janto Dreijer wrote:
I'm looking for code that will calculate the running median of a
sequence, efficiently. (I'm trying to subtract the running median from
a signal to correct for gradual drift).
My naive attempt (
value already in the dict.
Learn something new everyday!
I'm still not sure I understand your concern about the values in a set,
though. Sets keep the first object of a given key, dicts keep the last
object of a given key; in both cases, all other objects with the same
key are lost.
So i
just that you may not be right. ;-)
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Mick Krippendorf wrote:
Ethan Furman schrieb:
Mick Krippendorf wrote:
BTW, the comma-separted-values-in-a-field is officially called the First
Anormal Form. There *has to be* some value to it since I've seen it used
quite a few times...
Just because you've seen something, doesn
Austin Bingham wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Austin Bingham wrote:
I'm feeling really dense about now... What am I missing?
What you're missing is the entire discussion up to this point. I was
looking for a way to use an alternative uniqueness cri
nstance, sum(['1', '2', '3']); it's not completely unreasonable
for someone to expect
a result of 6.
It is in Python. '1' + '2' + '3' == '123', and so should sum.
If sum already has two code branches to handle strings, let the string
branch do a join. That's my vote, anyway. :)
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r: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'float' and 'Dummy'
>>> test2 = ['a', 'string', 'and', 'a', Dummy()]
>>> ''.join(test2)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
TypeError: sequence item 4: expected string, Dummy found
Looks like a TypeError either way, only the verbage changes.
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Carl Banks wrote:
On Oct 18, 4:07 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
Dave Angel wrote:
Earlier, I would have agreed with you. I assumed that this could be
done invisibly, with the only difference being performance. But you
can't know whether join will do the trick without error till you know
ception traceback. Since
the objects are still alive, they are not GC'ed. That is why this is
better:
def create():
f = file("tmp", "w")
try:
do_stuff_that_raises_exception
finally:
os.remove("tmp")
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Dave Angel wrote:
It was intended to be understood, not copied.
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non-zero is True in Python, hence the 'success' the second time around.
I wonder how the docs phrase it?
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preferably with code snippets and results, should be included with the
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ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 12:41 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
gslindstrom wrote:
On Oct 18, 5:56 pm, Gary Herron wrote:
Benjamin Middaugh wrote:
Thanks to everyone who helped with my query on reversing integers. I
have one more simple problem I'm having trouble solving. I wa
;, 19858]
I did have more interesting errors to lead me to this point, but here I
am, and my question... shouldn't os.path.join raise an exception if an
incompatible type is passed to it? I sure wish it had! ;-)
I was expecting, and the documentation led me to believe, that a stri
Ethan Furman wrote:
Following closely on the heels of the whole sum()ing strings debate, I
think I found an error -- at least, it's not documented to behave this
way...
def uncompress_job(job_num,
save_path='z:\\old_jobs',
restore_p
arve.knud...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:48 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
arve.knud...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I thought that file objects were supposed to be garbage-collected and
automatically closed once they go out of scope, at least that's what
I've been told by more meri
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:29:52 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
Your arguments are most persuasive. Consider me convinced.
Even if the worst-case scenario is true (homework problem, ack!), either
the poster will learn from the answer in which case all is well, or the
p
pieces of temp individually
this that
What you probably want on line two is:
osVer = os.Name.split("|")[0] + " Service Pack " + \
str(os.ServicePackMajorVersion)
or, in Python 2.x:
osVer = "%s Service Pack %d" % (os.Name.split("|")[0],
os.ServicePackMajorVersion)
This way, osVer is a string, and not a tuple.
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xisting bugs.
It would surprise me.
Two issues: 1) Sounds like we should have two more Asserts --
failIfNotEqual, and assertNotNotEqual to handle the dichotomy in Python;
and 2) Does this mean (looking at Mark Dickinson's post) that 2.7 and
3.1 are now broken?
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er that's correct, would the first version still
work in practice regardless of Python / Tkinter implementation?
I've looked at the source in Tkinter.py. The positional arguments are
collected and then flattened into a tuple (tuples and lists are
'scattered').
Huh. I
t' routine gets a chance to run).
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Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:57:19 -0300, Ethan Furman
escribió:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:45:49 -0700, Zac Burns wrote:
My preference would be that failIfEqual checks both != and ==. This is
practical, and would benefit almost all use case
s being able to do:
matches = table.search([record.zip4[:5], record.dlvryaddrs])
I could also do:
matches = table.search(record('zip4[:5], dlvryaddrs'))
or, equivalently,
criteria = 'this, that[:7], the_other'
matches = table.search(record(criteria))
Any better ideas? Am
possible values and their
corresponding code pages.
So far I have found this, plus variations:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/129631
Does anyone know of anything more complete?
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If so, try:
print "%s blah %s blah blah %s " % tuple(v)
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John Machin wrote:
On Oct 23, 7:28 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
Greetings, all!
I would like to add unicode support to my dbf project. The dbf header
has a one-byte field to hold the encoding of the file. For example,
\x03 is code-page 437 MS-DOS.
My google-fu is apparently not up to the task
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 23, 3:03 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 23, 7:28 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
Greetings, all!
I would like to add unicode support to my dbf project. The dbf header
has a one-byte field to hold the encoding of the file. For example,
\x03 is
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 24, 4:14 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 23, 3:03 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 23, 7:28 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
Greetings, all!
I would like to add unicode support to my dbf project. The dbf header
has a one
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 27, 3:22 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
John Machin wrote:
Try this:
http://webhelp.esri.com/arcpad/8.0/referenceguide/
Wow. Question, though: all those codepages mapping to 437 and 850 --
are they really all the same?
437 and 850 *are* codepages. You mean &quo
John Machin wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:15 am, Ethan Furman wrote:
>
Let me rephrase -- say I get a dbf file with an LDID of \x0f that maps
to a cp437, and the file came from a german oem machine... could that
file have upper-ascii codes that will not map to anything reasonable on
my \x01 cp
ldn't make
sense as len() works on iterables.
Ints do not have a __len__ method, so why should len() work on them?
Strs, on the other hand, do have an __add__ method.
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so
dense. :)
Cheers!
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t, at least, until I have achieved Python Mastery!
:) Guess I better find some time to read through my Pylons book...
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Mark
Looks like in 3.x the name was changed to tkinter.
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ior when it was moved out of __future__ and made a
standard part of the language.
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Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Ethan Furman:
Mark Hammond wrote:
On 29/10/2009 11:06 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
So I suggest switching to some other more light-weight installer
technology.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I expect we will stick with MSI even
with its shortcomings. Using
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Ethan Furman:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* James Harris:
You get way too deep into Python in places (for a beginner's course in
programming). For example, "from now on I’ll always use from
__future__ in any program that uses print."
Sorry, but I th
e dbf formats (dBase IV, V, 7 -- any links to these layouts
would be /greatly/ appreciated!)
This release is available at PyPI -- just search for dbf!
As always, success stories and bug reports desired.
Happy Hacking!
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Not an exclamation, no name calling, just a plain request rooted in reality.
And that's a fact. ;-)
Shall we now discuss the nature of the space/time continuum and the
exact reality of quarks?
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Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/11/1 Steven D'Aprano :
The only stupid question is the one you are afraid to ask.
I was once asked, and I quote exactly, "are there any fish in the Atlantic sea?"
That's pretty stupid. ;-)
Are there any fish in the Dead Sea?
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speach the
denotations of 'resisting' and 'opposed to' are very different from
'hostile' -- hence such phrases as 'resisting with hostility' and
'hostiley opposed to'.
In other words, I'll grant you the win of that hair, but I still would
not characterize it as hostile. ;-)
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'?
sea
–noun
1. the salt waters that cover the greater part of the earth's surface.
2. a division of these waters, of considerable extent, more or less
definitely marked off by land boundaries: the North Sea.
3. one of the seven seas; ocean.
I'd say the Atlantic qualifie
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
I'm the king in my castle, although I'm fully aware of the fact that my castle
might be ugly from the outside :)
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as elusive as the distant future. Program for what your needs are, and
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ave for now is
def _get_module():
"get the calling module -- should be the config'ed module"
target = os.path.splitext(inspect.stack()[2][1])[0]
target = __import__(target)
return target
If there's a better way, I'd love to know about it!
Oh, and I'm using 2.5.4, but I suspect kj is using 2.6.
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def _get_module():
"get the calling module -- should be the config'ed module"
target = os.path.splitext(inspect.stack()[2][1])[0]
target = __import__(target)
return target
How brittle is this technique?
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the next.
I'm using the inspect module (for the moment, at least), and my question
boils down to: Will it work correctly on all versions of Python in the
2.x range? 3.x range?
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gt; locale.getdefaultlocale()
('en_US', 'cp1252')
My confusion lies in my apparant codepage (cp1252), and the discrepancy
with character u'\xed' which is absolutely an i with an accent; yet when
I encode with cp1252 and print it, I get an o with a line.
Can anybody clue me in to what's going on here?
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Chris Withers wrote:
Mark Tolonen wrote:
The book Python: Programming on Win32 has a whole chapter on COM, and
a section on COM servers.
...and it's generally accepted that COM sucks rocks through straws, so
explore alternatives when they're available ;-)
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__.dummy object at 0x013F1A50>,
<__main__.dummy object at 0x00A854F0>]
In [11]: list2[0] is list1[1]
Out[11]: *True*
In [12]: list2[1] is list1[2]
Out[12]: *True*
No copying of items going on here. What do you get?
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object".
So is your desired behavior to write back to the original list if your
sub-list is modified? In other words, you are creating a window onto an
existing list? If not, what would happen when a sublist element was
modified (or deleted, or appended, or ...)?
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Themis Bourdenas wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Ethan Furman <mailto:et...@stoneleaf.us>> wrote:
So "shallow copy" == "new label created for existing object".
So is your desired behavior to write back to the original list if your
sub-list is m
cope?).
module scope == global scope
That is, there is nothing higher than module scope. (So, yes, global is
a slight misnomer... in Python it means 'global to a module'.)
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Aahz wrote:
In article ,
Grant Edwards wrote:
You've really got to try pretty hard to create one. But if you
want to, here's how to do it:
1) Start by complaining that your program doesn't work because
of a bug in Python.
[...]
Post of the month!
I'll second that! I really needed a
and other platforms for
handling absolute paths in Windows, is there a way forward that
handles these cases more elegantly, or is the best approach to just
mumble something nasty under our breath and work around these issues
on a case-by-case basis?
I just go with the mumbling, myself.
Hope this helps.
~Ethan~
P.S.
And now that I look up the comments in the bug-tracker, I see this was
all already pointed out to you.
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:02:38 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote:
module scope == global scope
That is, there is nothing higher than module scope. (So, yes, global is
a slight misnomer... in Python it means 'global to a module'.)
Actually there is: built-ins.
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se_deleted() # returns True or False
table.use_deleted(False) # skip deleted records
instead of
result = table.use_deleted
table.use_deleted = False
My question: is this [ severely | mildly | not at all ] un-pythonic?
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Jason R. Coombs wrote:
On Nov 20, 3:52 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
It is often said on this list that 'Python is not Java'. It is also
true that 'Windows is not Unix'.
Unlike the *nix world where there is a *single* root, and everything
else is relative to that, in the Win
n("ignored", "\\bar")
'\\bar'
Posixpath follows the same rules, too.
posixpath.join("..", "egg", "/var")
'/var'
posixpath.join("..", "egg", "var")
'../egg/var'
Posix has the luxury of running on sane systems with only one root.
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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Ethan Furman a écrit :
The problem I have with properties is my typing. I'll end up
assigning to an attribute, but get the spelling slightly wrong
(capitalized, or missing an underscore -- non-obvious things when
bug-hunting), so now I have an extra attr
Chris Rebert wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Ethan Furman a écrit :
The problem I have with properties is my typing. I'll end up assigning
to an attribute, but get the spelling slightly wrong (capitalized, or
missing an under
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Ethan Furman a écrit :
Let's head towards murkier waters (at least murkier to me -- hopefully
they can be easily clarified): some of the attributes are read-only,
such as record count; others are not directly exposed, but still
settable, such as table ve
ood explanatory
material, and yet some of the points I didn't fully comprehend until
much, much later. Every time, though, it's still the same reaction: I
*love* Python! :D
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Julian wrote:
Hello,
I've asked this question at stackoverflow a few weeks ago, and to make
it clear: this should NOT be a copy of the stackoverflow-thread
"hidden features of Python".
I want to design a poster for an open source conference, the local
usergroup will have a table there, and in t
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2010-02-04 17:46 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2010-02-04 14:55 PM, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
On Feb 3, 3:39 pm, Steve Holden wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2010-02-03 15:32 PM, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
I can explain all of Python in an hour; I doubt
ipt that checks for
duplicate modules (not a bad idea for debugging), but don't start
throwing errors... next thing you know we won't be able to shadow
classes, functions, or built-ins! !-)
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upid':
raise ValueError("that's a stupid argument!")
do_something
do_something_else
etc, etc
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m coined decades ago, and that
accurately defines the way that Python (the language) actually does it,
should be the term used.
My $0.02.
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st itself), then I need a tuple
like (lst, 48).
I think that's the key right there -- if 48 was really a pointer, you
wouldn't need to pass lst in as 48 would in fact be the memory address
of the object you wanted to manipulate.
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ingly.
John Nagle
Will the new GIL in 3.2 make this workable? It would still be one
thread at a time, though, wouldn't it.
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monkeys paw wrote:
NEW QUESTION if y'all are still reading:
Is there an integer increment operation in Python? I tried
using i++ but had to revert to 'i = i + 1'
Nope, but try i += 1.
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computers talked.
[more snippety]
Perhaps the lesson to learn from this is that as *you* teach programming
to non-english speakers you take the time to say "'if' means 'se',
'print' means 'stampa'", etc. I suspect your early years would have
b
e-post your lectures -- just did
a search for them and came up empty, and I would love to read them!
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re _not_ saved as *files*. Okay, venting over.
My point is, if what you are storing is plain ol' source files,
providing a way to directly access them is a good thing. If what you
are storing is a mangled version, the ability to let the user choose any
editor to use is a good thing. :)
My $0.02.
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nstruction.
Thanks, Michele!!
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complex code, you have an easy
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Robert Kern wrote:
On 2010-03-27 08:19 , Ethan Furman wrote:
Okay, different post for my actual questions. :)
On the PyPI page for strait (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/strait/0.5.1)
it has the example of choosing which methods to keep in the composed
class:
class TOSWidget(BaseWidget
test = object()
--> setattr(test, 'example', 123)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
AttributeError: 'object' object has no attribute 'example'
Shouldn't setattr() be creating the 'example' attribute? Any tips
greatly appreciated!
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Many thanks for the replies, and especially for the very detailed
explanation. Makes much more sense now.
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frobnicate(x, y, z, mongo)
spam = spam()
No extra objects, out-of-place underscores, etc.
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.
Interesting. I actually read "class" for "def" and replied accordingly.
Funny, so did I.
I'm sure it had something to do with the subject line. ;)
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Patrick Maupin wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:21 pm, Ethan Furman wrote:
For this type of situation, my preference would be:
class spam(object):
def __call__(self, x, y, z):
try:
mongo = self.mongo
except AttributeError:
mongo = self.mongo
__getattr__ approach faster than
the try/except approach (about 20% on my machine). I'll have to think
about that for future situations like this.
My main point, though, was using __call__, and not some weird _ method. ;)
~Ethan~
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, so going against
it automatically makes code less readable to all who were educated
in that tradition.
So you're saying that new languages can't change anything already well
established? So much for break-through innovations.
And what about the programmers? It is good to lear
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