Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> > cannot all you clueless trolls who cannot think of a single useful thing
> > to contribute to Python start your own newsgroup?
>
> and before anyone complains; please note that they're working through
>
> http://www.effbot.org/pyfaq/design-index
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> Fredrik Lundh wrote:
>>> Fredrik Lundh wrote:
>>> > cannot all you clueless trolls who cannot think of a single useful thing
>>> > to contribute to Python start your own newsgroup?
>>
>>>
Michael Hobbs wrote:
> Can anyone find a flaw with this change in syntax?
>
> Instead of dividing a compound statement with a colon, why not divide it
> on a newline? For example, the colon could be dropped from this statement:
> if self.hungry:
> self.eat()
> to
> if self.hungry
>
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> http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/wardpics-5.htm
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the diagrams are all wrong, they are fiction.
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local but I have
included them for completeness)
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Hi all,
Can someone tell me why I do not get a connection between the events and
the functions in the sample below. GUI window appears OK, just no
connections seem to be made.
I am new to this so may be missing something fundamental.
Thanks,
Doug
file pgtest.glade
=
http
OK, I have solved the problem. The reference was a help. The clue is that
the events may not get passed through the parent. For reference here is
the code that worked.
It's good to finally get the basics working.
Doug
import gtk
import gtk.glade
def key_press(widget,event):
print &quo
Hi!
I am trying to write a UTF-8 file of UNICODE strings with a carriage
return at the end of each line (code below).
filOpen = codecs.open("c:\\temp\\unicode.txt",'w','utf-8')
str1 = u'This is a test.'
str2 = u'This is the second line.'
str3 = u'This is the third line.'
strCR = u"\u240D"
fil
Hi! Thanks for clearing this up!!
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When I type C-c C-c my emacs window just hangs. If I use Task Manager
to kill cmdproxy I can get emacs back but of course interactivity with
Python is not accomplished. By the way, if I do C-c ! then I get a
functional python shell. Does anybody know a solution to this?
On Oct 13, 7:12 am, rus
I'm using elementtree to create a form.
I would like to set the "selected" attribute.
Setting using the usual
option.set( "selected" = "" )
gives me
Operations
how does one make
Operations
which is what I need.
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On Aug 12, 10:47 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > I'm using elementtree to create a form.
>
> > I would like to set the "selected" attribute.
>
> > Setting using the usual
> > option.set( "selected" =
Has any converted the structure pthread_mutex_t to
a ctypes structure class ?
I looking at some C code that is using pthreads and need to translate
pthreads_mutex_t structure into python (via ctypes)
Thanks
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I am new to python, working by way through 'Core Python Programming'. I can find
no description of using print with the built-in type for formatting. I think I
have got some [most?] of it from Chun, google, and python.org. My comment is -
it should not be that hard to find. I would suggest a lin
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ruben Van Boxem
wrote:
> (now in plain-text as required by gdb mailing list)
>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently trying to integrate Python support into my toolchain
> build (including GDB of course). It is a sysrooted
> binutils+GCC+GDB+mingw-w64 toolchain.
>
> I currently
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Ruben Van Boxem
wrote:
> 2011/5/14 Doug Evans :
>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ruben Van Boxem
>> wrote:
>>> (now in plain-text as required by gdb mailing list)
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am currently tr
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 11:09:13 +0200
>> From: Ruben Van Boxem
>> Cc: g...@sourceware.org, python-list@python.org
>>
>> 1. Check hardcoded path; my suggestion would be "> executable>/../lib/python27"
>> 2. If this fails to find the necessar
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Doug Evans wrote:
> Note that --exec-prefix is the runtime location of python.
> GCC uses this to tell libpython where to find its support files.
> [grep for Py_SetProgramName in gdb/python/python.c]
Oops. s/GCC/GDB/
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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ruben Van Boxem
wrote:
> Wow, I think I have a partial solution. Delving into the Python docs,
> for example here:
> http://docs.python.org/using/windows.html#finding-modules, you can see
> that PYTHONPATH is used first, then the Windows registry, then
> PYTHONHOME
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Ruben Van Boxem
wrote:
> I am sorry for the repeated messages that no one cares about, but I
> may have discovered GDB in its current form already allows what I
> want: I tried to figure out what exact paths the snake in gdb was
> using to search for its modules, a
again. I appreciate the tip.
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bj)
print(l)
I'm hoping to see that first header; however, I'm getting another error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./testies.py", line 30, in
next(iterobj)
StopIteration
I'm not quite sure what that means... Does that mean I got to the end of data
w
Hey;
Never mind; I finally found the meaning of stopiteration. I guess my
google-foo is a bit weak this morning.
Thanks
Doug
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this seems like it should be pretty straight forward so I'm
obviously missing something basic.
Any hints/tips/suggestions gratefully accepted.
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ta to match an algorithm works as
well in python as it does in perl. Go figure.
My 200+ script that didn't work so well is now 63 lines, including comments...
and works perfectly.
Outstanding! Thanks for putting up with noob questions
Doug
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en of
.*?? In that partial list, it'd be name, domain-version,
security-configuration, log, and server.
For some reason, I'm not able to make the conceptual leap to get to the first
step of those tutorials.
The end goal of this exercise is to programatically identify weblogic clusters
and their hosts.
thanks
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On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 3:21:43 PM UTC-5, John Gordon wrote:
> root = doc.getroot()
> for child in root:
> print(child.tag)
>
Excellent! thank, you sir! that'll get me started.
Appreciate the reply.
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ight help but I've not been able to get
even the simple examples working. Go figure, I just figured out what a
namespace is...
Any hints/tips/suggestions greatly appreciated especially with complete noob
tutorials for xpath.
Thanks for your time.
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x27;exit: (.*?)', a)
> In [4]: b.group(0)
> Out[4]: 'exit: '
>
> In [5]: b.group(1)
> Out[5]: ''
>
> In [6]: b.group(2)
> IndexError: no such group
The ? tells (.*?) to match as little as possible and that is nothing.
If you change it to (.*) it should
Why is the ElementTree API not a part of the Python core?
I've recently been developing a script for accessing the Miva API only
to find all the core API's provided by Python for parsing XML is messy
and complicated. Many of the examples I see for parsing the data using
these API's uses a similar
Steven Bethard wrote:
Simo Melenius wrote:
map (def x:
if foo (x):
return baz_1 (x)
elif bar (x):
return baz_2 (x)
else:
global hab
hab.append (x)
return baz_3 (hab),
[1,2,3,4,5,6])
I think this would
BOOGIEMAN wrote:
Thanks everybody, I downloaded latest windows version and
Python-Docs-2.4 archive. Is that enough for absolute beginner.
Is there any e-book, step by step guide ... etc for download,
or anything else important what I have to know before I start
learning Python ?
The main thing I wo
Istvan Albert wrote:
But if python
were to become overly complicated I'll find something else.
Three years ago I have not not used python at all, now I'm
using it for everything.
You're in luck, python 2.4 won't be significantly changing anytime soon.
PS. why can't decorators solve this optional ty
Istvan Albert wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
application is so important that I expect Python 3000 will have
optional type declarations integrated into the argument list."
I think that *optional* part of the "optional type declaration"
is a myth.
It may be optional in the sense that th
BOOGIEMAN wrote:
Thanks all for very detailed answers. BTW I tried this one but it seems
that it doesn't use VS'es visual designer. Also it doesn't have "build"
option so it is basicly only usefull to higlight Python syntax.
Active Sate Komodo looks like much better choice
I don't know of any pytho
Rolf Magnus wrote:
Hi,
I would like to embed a python interpreter within a program, but since that
program would be able to automatically download scripts from the internet,
I'd like to run those in a restricted environment, which basically means
that I want to allow only a specific set of modules
Alan Gauld wrote:
GvR has commented that he want to get rid of the lambda keyword for Python 3.0.
Getting rid of lambda seems like a worthy goal,
Can I ask what the objection to lambda is?
1) Is it the syntax?
2) Is it the limitation to a single expression?
3) Is it the word itself?
I can symp
Baza wrote:
I'm looking for any books or on-line resources on game programming using
Python. Does anyone have any advice?
See http://pygame.org/
There is also a book called "Game Programming with Python".
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Bob Swerdlow wrote:
Anyone have opinions about whether we will be better off using PythonNet or
wxPython for the GUI layer of our application on Windows? Our code is all
Python and is now running on Mac OS X with PyObjC and Cocoa, which works
very well. Our goal is not necessarily to move to a
vegetax wrote:
In the other hand, with the recent changes in java 5 i can pythonize
java,
Have you seen Jython? http://www.jython.org/
It may be the best option for you. It will run just as fast as a
regular java program. Also there is groovy: http://groovy.codehaus.org/
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
A.M. Kuchling wrote:
IMHO that's a bit extreme. Specifications are written to be detailed, so
consequently they're torture to read. Seen the ReStructured Text spec
lately?
I've read many specs; YAML (both the spec and the format) is easily
among the worst ten-or-so specs I'
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
and trust me, when things are hard to get right for developers, users will
suffer too.
That is exactly why YAML can be improved. But XML proves that getting
it "right" for developers has little to do with getting it right for
users (or for saving bandwidth). What's right fo
rm wrote:
this implementation of their idea. But I'd love to see a generic,
pythonic data format.
That's a good idea. But really Python is already close to that. A lot
of times it is easier to just write out a python dictionary than using a
DB or XML or whatever. Python is already close to YA
Peter Hansen wrote:
Good question. The point is that an XML document is sometimes
a file, sometimes a record in a relational database, sometimes an
object delivered by an Object Request Broker, and sometimes a
stream of bytes arriving at a network socket.
These can all be described a
Steve Holden wrote:
Yet again I will interject that XML was only ever intended to be wriiten
by programs. Hence its moronic stupidity and excellent uniformity.
Neither was HTML, neither were URLs, neither were many things used the
way they were intended. YAML, however, is specifically designed t
Daniel Bickett wrote:
In my (brief) experience with YAML, it seemed like there were several
different ways of doing things, and I saw this as one of it's failures
(since we're all comparing it to XML). However I maintain, in spite of
all of that, that it can easily boil down to the fact that, for
s
You might like programming in XML then: http://www.meta-language.net/
Actually, the samples are hard to find, they are here:
http://www.meta-language.net/sample.html
Programming in XML makes Perl and PHP look like the cleanest languages
ever invented.
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Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Daniel Bickett wrote:
I believe Sam was talking about "frozen" python scripts using tools
such as py2exe:
oh, you mean that "python compiler" didn't mean "the python compiler".
I wouldn't assume a novice uses terms the same way you would. It was
quite clear from his message
rm wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
rm wrote:
this implementation of their idea. But I'd love to see a generic,
pythonic data format.
That's a good idea. But really Python is already close to that. A
lot of times it is easier to just write out a python dictionary than
using a DB or XML o
Is there a good IDE for Python? I have heard that Eclipse
has a plugin for Jython only.
Thanks
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> dash. This is much nicer than in C or Python having to get rid of """ or
> > /* and */. Of course, the IDE can compensate. But it's still neat :)
>
> python:
>
> """
> print 10
> """
>
> and
>
> #"
e: Does anyone know how to get the size of the incoming file
data without reading the whole thing into a string? Can I do something with
content_header?
Thanks much for any insight that you might have.
Doug
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nt 'bar'
>
>
> i'd really appreciate any help the 'group' has to offer.
>
>
> thanks
> dave
Dave,
I think eval might be what you're looking for:
f = eval('len')
length = f([1,2,3])
By the way, are you the Dave Ekhaus I used to work with at Kodak?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doug Schwarz wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I think eval might be what you're looking for:
> >
> > f = eval('len')
> > length = f([1,2,3])
>
Is this the best/simplest way to generate a module list?
python -c 'from pydoc import help; help("modules")'
Thanks,
Doug
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott David Daniels wrote:
> Doug Kearns wrote:
>> Is this the best/simplest way to generate a module list?
>>
>> python -c 'from pydoc import help; help("modules")'
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
> I am
Tom Locke wrote:
Hi,
Anyone know of a good hosting company that offers both server-side
Python and a subversion repository?
With user-mode linux hosting you can have your own virtual root system
with which you can run whatever python stuff you want as well as
subversion or other server processes
gmduncan wrote:
Maybe a time for a new discussion group along that suggested
by the Subject line ?
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Or is their increasing presence here a price we must pay for their
belated recognition of this wonderful language ?
Don't forget the price we pay for not
Michele Simionato wrote:
Suppose I want to write a book with many authors via the Web. The book has
a hierarchical structure with chapter, sections, subsections, subsubsections,
etc. At each moment it must be possible to print the current version of the
book in PDF format. There must be automati
Phd wrote:
Hi,
I'm using python 2.2, I want to import a module by referring to its
relative location. The reason for this is that there is another module
with the same name that's already in pythonpath( not my decision, but I
got to work around it, bummer). So is there any easy way to do it?
imp
Esmail Bonakdarian wrote:
First of all, I *really* like Python ;-)
I need some help with the graphical side of things. I would like to do
some basic graphics with Python, but I am not sure what the best/most
effective way for me to do what I want.
Basically, I would like to be able to create some b
abisofile wrote:
hi
I'm new to programming.I've try a little BASIC so I want ask since
Python is also interpreted lang if it's similar to BASIC.
Which BASIC did you try? Realbasic? Visual Basic?
You should check out some of these beginner's python tutorials:
http://www.honors.montana.edu/~jjc/e
Petr Prikryl wrote:
Hi,
Summary: In my opinion, the C-like prefix
increment and decrement operators (++i and --i)
should be marked as "syntax error".
We have a patch for increment and decrement operators in boo (
http://boo.codehaus.org/ ), along with an operator overloading syntax
like below. S
Chris wrote:
Okay, color me stupid, but what is everyone referencing when they
mention Python 3.0? I didn't see any mention of it on the Python site.
http://www.python.org/moin/Python3.0
has more information than the PEP 3000, plus you can contribute to the page.
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Jason Zheng wrote:
I'm wondering why python still has limited lambda support. What's
stopping the developers of python to support more lisp-like lambda
function?
See boo and its support for closures: http://boo.codehaus.org/
http://boo.codehaus.org/Closures
It works with "def" or "do", or single-
Noam Raphael wrote:
even in the best solution that I know of,
there's now way to check if a subclass has implemented all the
required methods without running it and testing if it works.
I think there are some solutions like PyProtocols, see section 2.2 on
this page: http://www.python.org/cgi-b
Fredrik Lundh trolled:
(I think you could create some kind of drinking game based on the number of
...times the nasty trolls pounce on this list?
No, I think the idea is to actually address the content of someone's
question, politely and in the *holiday spirit*, not spirits.
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Hi,
I know that i can do readline() from a file object.
However, how can I read till a specific seperator?
for exmple,
if my files are
name
profession
id
#
name2
profession3
id2
I would like to read this file as a record.
I can do this in perl by defining a record seperator
David Wurmfeld wrote:
I am new to python; any insight on the following would be appreciated, even
if it is the admonition to RTFM (as long as you can direct me to a relevant
FM)
Is there a standard approach to enumerated types? I could create a
dictionary with a linear set of keys, but isn't th
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
If you find a good solution to this problem, please let me know.
well, since I'm not in the ego-stroking business, what if I promise never to
reply to posts by you, robert, and alex?
That's not fair to the rest of us though :)
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Jim Hill wrote:
Is there a way to produce a very long multiline string of output with
variables' values inserted without having to resort to this wacky
"""v = %s"""%(variable)
No, not without the god-awful hacks you've already seen.
But it is possible in boo: : http://boo.codehaus.org/
See http://b
Gezer Punta wrote:
hi all
I am looking for a forum which was produced by python
If you want Zope-based, try Plone. But probably you don't.
I am not aware of any standard python CGI-based forum software, but I am
sure you could find one if you search sourceforge or google.
I am surprised no one e
Jp Calderone wrote:
Part of fostering a friendly environment on python-list is not making
comments like these.
Another part is actually answering the content of a person's question
like I did, instead of trolling and flaming, like Fredrik and others
here are want to do.
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Peter Hansen wrote:
Why? If it's virtually identical, why would anyone bother even
visiting that site? ;-)
But I suspect you mean that the syntax of the language is virtually
identical, while probably there are some significant differences.
Maybe in the richness of its standard library? Or the s
Steven Bethard wrote:
I don't really have a good solution; despite the unnecessarily vicious
comments, I don't feel like I can set my newsreader to ignore messages
from, for example, Fredrik, because his answers, when not attacks, are
often very insightful. If you find a good solution to this p
Peter Hansen wrote:
"Virtually identical" indeed. :-)
As noted on the website that I've pointed out to you multiple times now,
the syntax of boo is indeed virtually identical to python. The
functionality however, is more like C#.
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Peter Hansen wrote:
None of which in any way invalidates Jp's point...
Neither does it invalidate mine. What is up with the trollers today?
They are out in force now that the holidays are here.
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This book is due to be published any day now:
"Introduction to computing and programming with Python: A Multimedia
Approach" by Mark Guzdial, a CS professor at Georgia Tech.
It uses the Jython Environment for Students (JES). It is completely
free and open source. You can use it for example to
Steven Bethard wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
well, since I'm not in the ego-stroking business, what if I promise
never to reply to posts by you, robert, and alex?
That's not fair to the rest of us though :)
That's not even fair to the non-rest of us. =) A
Peter Hansen wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
Peter Hansen wrote:
"Virtually identical" indeed. :-)
As noted on the website that I've pointed out to you multiple times
now, the syntax of boo is indeed virtually identical to python. The
functionality however, is more like C#.
Sadly y
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
ask yourself if that thing you read really was a vicious attack by bunch of
nasty
trolls, or if, perhaps, you missed the point.
You still do not even acknowledge your behavior then? If it is your
wish that I never mention boo again, then I will not, even though you
and not
Istvan Albert wrote:
Doug Holton wrote:
the syntax of boo is indeed virtually identical to python.
All that boo does is borrows a few syntactical constructs
from python. Calling it virtually identical
is *very* misleading.
The syntax is indeed virtually identical to python. You are yet another
Petr Prikryl wrote:
Hi,
Summary: In my opinion, the C-like prefix
increment and decrement operators (++i and --i)
should be marked as "syntax error".
Let me rephrase my answer.
This is a good sugestion for Python 3.0, a.k.a. Python 3000:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/Python3.0
In the fut
David Wurmfeld wrote:
I am new to python; any insight on the following would be appreciated,
even if it is the admonition to RTFM (as long as you can direct me to
a relevant FM)
Is there a standard approach to enumerated types? I could create a
dictionary with a linear set of keys, but isn't t
Doug Holton wrote:
Noam Raphael wrote:
even in the best solution that I know of,
there's now way to check if a subclass has implemented all the
required methods without running it and testing if it works.
I think there are some solutions like PyProtocols, see section 2.2 on
this page:
Doug Holton wrote:
Steven Bethard wrote:
I don't really have a good solution; despite the unnecessarily vicious
comments, I don't feel like I can set my newsreader to ignore messages
from, for example, Fredrik, because his answers, when not attacks, are
often very insightful. If
Hans Nowak wrote:
Regardless of the merits of Boo, this is comp.lang.python, not
comp.lang.boo. The language may *look* like Python, but its inner
workings are nothing like Python, as several people have correctly
pointed out now. (Just like Java's syntax may look like C or C++ in
some areas,
Jim Hill wrote:
Is there a way to produce a very long multiline string of output with
variables' values inserted without having to resort to this wacky
"""v = %s"""%(variable)
No, it is currently not possible in Python without the hacks you have
seen already. Python is long overdue for simpler st
Bengt Richter wrote:
variable1 = 1
variable2 = 2
s = """
v = ${variable1}
v2's value is: ${variable2}
"""
However, Python 3.0 is likely years away. If you want to know how to
run code like this today, consult Fredrik Lundh.
Or replace ${...} with equally simple %(...)s in the above and be ha
Michael Hoffman wrote:
Gregor Horvath wrote:
> Or make any given standard python object accessible from MS Excel in 2
> minutes.
from win32com.client import Dispatch
xlApp = Dispatch("Excel.Application")
xlApp.Visible = 1
xlApp.Workbooks.Add()
xlApp.ActiveSheet.Cells(1,1).Value = 'Python Rules!'
Mike Meyer wrote:
Personally, I'd love a language feature that let you create a function
that didn't evaluate arguments until they were actually used - lazy
evaluation. That lets you write the C ?: operator as a function, for
a start.
Hmmm. No, iterators can't be used to fake it. Oh well.
That is a
Mike Meyer wrote:
Logo (my pick) has been called "Lisp without the parenthesis". It has
the advantage of using standard algebraic notation for formulas,
instead of operator post or pre.
This is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.logo. Please refrain from
discussing topics not related to CPyt
Steve Holden wrote:
'Scuse me? This group has a long history of off-topic posting, and
anyway who decided that CPython should be the exclusive focus? Even
on-topic we can talk about Jython and PyPy as well as CPython.
I agree with your point, although Hans Nowak and others may not.
Anything rela
Nick Vargish wrote:
Doug Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
If you can't accept free speech and different perspectives, you're
going to be disappointed. But please do not react by trying to
intimidate and troll others here.
Weren't you the one telling the rest of us what&#
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
"have you harrassed a Pythoneer today?"
Yes, you have. I'll ask again that you stop. Just because you make a
living in part off of a CPython module, doesn't mean we cannot discuss
python-related things on this list, or discuss things from the
perspective of a python user
Hans Nowak wrote:
Now you're trying to make it seem like I am against free speech on this
list, and against people's rights to discuss whatever they want. I
never said that, and I in fact enjoy the fact that c.l.py posters are an
eclectic bunch who have knowledge of, and like to talk about, a g
Hans Nowak wrote:
You said that boo should not be mentioned on this newsgroup.
Please point me to the post where I said that. Since everything is
stored in Google Groups, it should be easy for you to come up with an
URL... if such a post existed.
Quote:
"this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lan
Hans Nowak wrote:
Quote:
"this is comp.lang.python, not comp.lang.boo."
Which is obviously not the same as "Boo should not be mentioned on this
newsgroup".
I used the exact same phrase in another note except using the term
"logo" instead of "boo", and that is the exact interpretation I
immedi
Hans Nowak wrote:
> The discussion with Logo and other languages in it was off-topic too,
> but it wasn't offensive to anyone.
I'm not going to dignify that or the rest of your note with a response.
No, by all means, let's ignore any pieces of a post that might lead to
constructive discussion.
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