Re: Sort the values of a dict

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM, mattia wrote: > Hi all, I have a dictionary that uses dates and a tuples ad key, value > pairs. I need to sort the values of the dict and insert everything in a > tuple. The additional problem is that I need to sort the values looking > at the i-th element of the l

Re: Significant whitespace

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Tim Roberts wrote: > More than "not required", it was "not relevant".  This led to one of the > most infamous programming blunders in the early days of the space program, > when one programmer accidentially typed a period instead of a comma > resulting in the loss o

Re: Significant whitespace

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , >  David Robinow wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Tim Roberts wrote: >> > More than "not required", it was "not relevant".  This led to one of the >> > most infamou

Re: Fractional Hours from datetime?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > "Alf P. Steinbach" writes: > >> And considering this, and the fact that Google's archive is now the >> main Usenet archive, message id's are not that useful, really. > > You've demonstrated only that Google is an unreliable Usenet archive. > >

Re: Is python not good enough?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Simon Brunning wrote: > 2010/1/25 Albert van der Horst : >> If Go was to compete with anything, they would have give it a name >> that was Googleable. ;-) > If they want it Googleable, it will be. ;-) http://www.google.com/search?q=go+language -- http://mail.pyth

Re: easy install

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > A puzzlement: > > I used easy_install the other day to get xlutils on my system.  It > automatically installed xlrd and xlwt as well.  This is cool.  What's not so > cool are my tracebacks.  E.g. > > Python 2.5.4 (r254:67916, Dec 23 2008, 15:10

Re: how to get os.system () call to cooperate on Windows

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > How can one copy files on the OS level? > The idea was just to show how to call CopyFile using ctypes, not implying > that it's the only way to do that. Everyone knows that the One and True Way > of copying files is using PIP. Yuk!

Re: Bug(s) in Python 3.1.1 Windows installation

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > PS: This was not unexpected. It was exactly why I earlier didn't even look > at CPython (umpteen bad experiences with *nix ports) but used ActivePython. It's not a *nix port. It's multiplatform and it works fine. As you've been told befor

Re: [PYTHON] How to set the range for x-axis

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Moses wrote: > Hi Chris, > > The code is > > from scipy import * > from pylab import * > > x = [0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1.0] > y = [2,6,8,10,10,10] > > plot(x,y,linewidth=5.0) > show() > > and not > > from scipy import * > from pylab import * > > x1 = [0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,

Re: How to specify Python version in script?

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:16 PM, kj wrote: > > > > > I have a script that must be run with Python 2.6.x.  If one tries > to run it with, say, 2.5.x, *eventually* it runs into problems and > crashes.  (The failure is quicker if one attempts to run it with > Python 3.x.) > > Is there some way to sp

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > ...  This is Usenet so > please stick with Usenet practices.  If you want a web forum there are > plenty of them out there. Actually this is python-list@python.org I don't use usenet and I have no intention to stic

Re: ANN: obfuscate

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Simon Brunning wrote: > On 9 February 2010 16:29, Robert Kern wrote: >> On 2010-02-09 09:37 AM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>> If the code base stabilizes in a production version after losing the >>> alphas and betas they would be a great addition to the stdlib, I >>

Re: What's Going on between Python and win7?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:25 PM, W. eWatson wrote: > How do I get out of this pickle? I just want to duplicate the  program in > another folder, and not link to an ancestor. Ask in an appropriate forum. I'm not sure where that is but you might try http://www.sevenforums.com/ -- http://mail.python

Re: python dowload

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:42 PM, monkeys paw wrote: > I used the following code to download a PDF file, but the > file was invalid after running the code, is there problem > with the write operation? > > import urllib2 > url = 'http://www.whirlpoolwaterheaters.com/downloads/6510413.pdf' > a = open

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-03-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > I definitely remember that old MS-DOS programs would treat > Ctrl-Z as an EOF marker when it was read from a text file and > would terminate a text file with a Ctrl-Z when writing one. Actually cmd.exe

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Ed Keith wrote: > --- On Wed, 3/3/10, D'Arcy J.M. Cain  wrote: > >> They needed a way to tell where the end of the information >> was.  Why >> they used ^Z (SUB - Substitute) instead of ^C (ETX - End of >> TeXt) or >> even ^D (EOT - End Of Transmission) is anyone's

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-03-03, mk wrote: > >>> That has always puzzled me to. ETX and EOT were well established, why >>> no use one of them? I'd love to know what they were thinking. >> >> Probably nothing: what many people do with confronted with a problem.

Re: use of multiple versions of python

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Bujji wrote: > hi all, > I have installed python 2.6 in addition to python 2.5 in my system > Now for some modules(while installing ) it needs to use python 2.6 > how can i do that > in case of easy_install what should i do to it to use python 2.6 You should have

Re: off topic but please forgive me me and answer

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Patrick Maupin wrote: > On Apr 1, 4:42 pm, Tim Chase wrote: >> superpollo wrote: >> > how much is one half times one half? >> >> Uh, did you try it at the python prompt?  If not, here's the answer: >> >>   0.1b * 0.1b = 0.01b >> >> Now all you need is to find the r

Re: off topic but please forgive me me and answer

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:49:43 -0500, Tim Chase wrote: > >> David Robinow wrote: >>> $ python -c "print 1/2 * 1/2" >>> 0 >>> >>>  But that's not what I learned in grade s

Re: If/then style question

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... > Functions always have one entry. The only way to have multiple entry > points is if the language allows you to GOTO into the middle of a > function, and Python sensibly does not allow this. The "one entry, one > exit" rule comes from th

Re: type(d) != type(d.copy()) when type(d).issubclass(dict)

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:52 PM, kj wrote: > Watch this: > class neodict(dict): pass > ... d = neodict() type(d) > type(d.copy()) > > > > Bug?  Feature?  Genius beyond the grasp of schlubs like me? copy, here, is a dict method. It will create a dict. If you really need it, y

Re: trouble installing MySQLdb (cygwin) + Bonus question

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > On Jan 25, 9:34 pm, John Nagle wrote: ... >>     You can install a MySQL server under Windows, and talk to the server >> from the Cygwin environment.  That's a useful way to test. >> >>                                         John Nagle > > R

Re: [python-list] - what do you think ?

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Rhodri James wrote: > On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:18:50 -, wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 10:16:42PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >>> Either your mail client already knows how to filter messages >>> appropriately depending on which mailing list they came from; or, yo

Re: condition and True or False

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Paul McGuire wrote: > While sifting through some code looking for old "x and y or z" code > that might better be coded using "y if x else z", I came across this > puzzler: > >    x = and True or False > > What is "and True or False" adding to this picture?  The boo

Re: virtualenvwrapper for Windows (Powershell)

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message > <22cf35af-44d1-43fe-8b90-07f2c6545...@i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, > Guillermo wrote: >> If you've ever missed it on Windows and you can use Powershell ... > I thought the whole point of Windows was to get away from this

Re: Community (A Modest Proposal)

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:42:57 -0700, rantingrick wrote: > >> i will start a fork. > > That is the most sensible thing you have said yet. Please do so, it will > be a great thing for the Python community. Eagerly awaiting the transfer of thi

Re: a +b ?

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Aahz wrote: > In article , > James Mills   wrote: ... >>What in particular do you _not_ enjoy about using map/reduce (and >>possibly other functional features of the Python programing language) ? > > map() never felt particularly Pythonic, especially the way it wo

Re: python source code -> win/dos executable (on linux)

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <4c24c152$0$31381$4fafb...@reader1.news.tin.it>, superpollo > wrote: > >> suppose i work in a linux environment, but i would like to ship a >> win/dos executable file from time to time, just for test purposes (my >> "testers"

Re: Python 2.7 released

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:59:00 -0700, Martineau wrote: > >> I'd like to view the contents of the help file without actually >> installing the release which would wipe out any currently installed >> version (I'm one of those rare people who act

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > Public download that is, people like me who have a MSDN subscription can > still download old versions like Visual Studio 2005. > > So I would say that there is no particular hurry. > I would think that everyone really serious about MS dev

Re: Q for Emacs users: code-folding (hideshow)

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:29 AM, ernest wrote: > On 15 Jul, 18:45, kj wrote: >> This is a question _for Emacs users_ (the rest of you, go away :)  ). >> >> How do you do Python code-folding in Emacs? >> >> Thanks! >> >> ~K > > I tried the outline-mode and it seemed to work. It can > collapse diff

Re: Multiple versions of Python coexisting in the same OS

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Edward Diener wrote: > On 7/25/2010 5:57 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > So if a standard library module ( or distributed library ) executes a call > internally to 'python xxx yyy' or executes a call internally to > 'someScript.py yyy', you're fine with multiple co-exi

Re: Newbie question regarding SSL and certificate verification

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > ... > A final question -- how widely is M2Crypto used? Since I will have to now > pitch to our group that this is preferable the first questions they will ask > are about stability, who is using it and how secure is it really, especially

Re: Why is there no platform independent way of clearing a terminal?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: >... > So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It doesn't > include the packages required for the kernel, the desktop environment, the > window manager, the terminal, and whatever else you want running. In my > fairly c

Re: Why is there no platform independent way of clearing a terminal?

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message , David > Robinow wrote: > >>  As an admittedly stupid comparison, I have 1579 DLLs in my >> \windows\system32 directory. >> Some number of these have been upgraded by Windows Update. > >

Re: Win7. Why Don't Matplotlib, ... Show up in Control Panel Add-Remove?

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 08/08/2010 17:16, W. eWatson wrote: >> >> See Subject. I use matplotlib, scipy, numpy and possibly one other >> module. If I go to the control panel, I only see numpy listed. Why? I >> use a search and find only numpy and Python itself. Ho

Re: xml.dom.minidom losing the XML document type attribute

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Johannes Bauer wrote: > Well, I'm not speaking about my software :-) Actually it's Gnucash which > complains if the tag is not explicitly set. This is because they > appearently had a ancient version which did not specify the charset, but > used a different one than

Re: Is code duplication allowed in this instance?

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message c1d1c62d6...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Klone wrote: > >> So in this scenario is it OK to duplicate the algorithm to be tested >> within the test codes or refactor the method such that it can be used >> within test codes t

Re: Query regarding set([])?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:52 AM, vox wrote: > I am looking for a script that compares file1 and file2, for each line > in file1, check if line is present in file2. If the line from file1 is > not present in file2, print that line/write it to file3, because I > have to know what lines to add to file

Re: Question about generators

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Cameron Pulsford wrote: > As far as the primes generator, it does not generate any non-primes. All > primes (except 2, 3 and 5) are in the form (6*x + 1, 6*x + 5) where is x is > [1, 2, ..., n]. The only time it doesn't generate a prime is when x + (1 or > 5) % 5 ==

Re: PDF version of Python Tutorial?

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Dr. Phillip M. Feldman wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a PDF version of the Python Tutorial (URL= > http://www.python.org/doc/current/tutorial/)? http://docs.python.org/download.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: turtle dump

>> If you want to generate high-quality graphics easily you need different >> primitives. >> >> http://cairographics.org >> >> has Python bindings, but I don't know if it's available on Windows. > > Effectively not, as far as I can tell. PyCairo appears to be *nix and > require later binaries than

Re: On out-of-date Python Applications

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:24 AM, John Machin wrote: ... > The next step would be to try to compile ODE 0.7 or 0.8 with VS9 -- > however this would require "project files" for ODE for VS9, and there > aren't any on the ODE website; it has only those for VS3 and VS5. > The ODE site is a mess. Go to

Re: On out-of-date Python Applications

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Virgil Stokes wrote: > David Robinow wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:24 AM, John Machin wrote: > ... > > > The next step would be to try to compile ODE 0.7 or 0.8 with VS9 -- > however this would require "project files" for O

Re: If Scheme is so good why MIT drops it?

> This doesn't mean they're on the same level - in fact, if you read carefully > you'll see my original post said as much: python attracted average > programmers; php attracted mediocre programmers and even some > non-programmers, which means that php is clearly a lesser language than > python. I'

Re: If Scheme is so good why MIT drops it?

On 7/26/09, MRAB wrote: > David Robinow wrote: > > > This doesn't mean they're on the same level - in fact, if you read > carefully > > > you'll see my original post said as much: python attracted average > > > programmers; php attracted mediocre

Re: If Scheme is so good why MIT drops it?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Aahz wrote: > In article , > Hendrik van Rooyen   wrote: >>On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:26:46 David Robinow wrote: >>> >>>  I'm a mediocre programmer. Does this mean I should switch to PHP? >> >>I have searched, but

Re: Python docs disappointing - group effort to hire writers?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM, alex23 wrote: > Why exactly is posting an open comment on a bug tracker somehow > inferior to posting an open comment on a wiki? When one believes that development is controlled by a cabal which is jealous of outsiders and actively prevents improvements to the docs,

Re: httplib incredibly slow :-(

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > David Stanek wrote: >> Also on the same box where you run this script >> can you test with curl or wget? > It's a Windows box, so no :-( Why not? http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/wget/ http://curl.haxx.se/download.html -- http://mail.python.o

Re: httplib incredibly slow :-(

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > David Robinow wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Chris Withers >> wrote: >>> >>> David Stanek wrote: >>>> >>>> Also on the same box where you run this script >>

Re: Python 'for' loop is memory inefficient

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Nobody wrote: > Java also has iterators; it's more a case of people coming from C and BASIC. > > Although, some of those may have come *through* Java without abandoning > old habits. You see the same thing with people coming from BASIC to C and > writing: > >      

Re: difference between 2 arrays

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Pierre wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to know how to find the difference (set operation) > between 2 arrays : > > a = array([1,2, 3,2,5,2]) > b = array([1,2]) > I want a - b = [3,5] > > Well, the equivalence of setdiff in matlab... > > I thought a.difference(b) co

Re: Is Python what I need?

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter Otten<__pete...@web.de> wrote: > If you are trying to teach children that are unwilling to use pen and paper > putting them in front of a computer doesn't help you and them one bit. As a > starting programmer you'll have to spend a lot of time in front of your

Re: Reading binary files

>> This works for a simple binary file, but the actual file I'm trying to >> read is give throwing an error that the file cannot be found. Here is the >> name of the my file: >> 2009.08.02_06.52.00_WA-1_0001_00_0662_0.jstars >> >> Should python have trouble reading this file name or extension? > >

Re: OT - people eaters - was: An assessment of the Unicode standard

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > Does anybody know where the concept of the purple people eater comes from? > I mean is there a children's book or something? > - Hendrik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_People_Eater -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: Compile kinterbasdb with mingw32 and python 2.6 - DLL load failed

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > This is what I did so far: > > #1. Install Python 2.6, Firebird 1.5 server (with libs and headers), egenix > mx base and mingw C compiler > #2. put "c:\MinGW\bin"  on the PATH (or wherever it is) > #3. extract kinterbasdb source to a temp fold

Re: pygui - showing an image

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:26 PM, kyle schalm wrote: > hello, i wonder what the chances are that anyone here uses pygui? > it looks pretty good, but i just started using it (version 2.05) and > can't figure out how to just display a window with an image in it. i > tried: > > image = Image('foo.png'

Re: Windows vs. file.read

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Mike wrote: > I have a ppm file that python 2.5 on Windows XP cannot read > completely. > Python on linux can read the file with no problem > Python on Windows can read similar files. > I've placed test code and data here: > http://www.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/pp

Re: bool constructor is inconsistent?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Stefan Schwarzer wrote: > Hi Neal, > > On 2010-09-10 20:23, Neal Becker wrote: >> IN [3]: bool('False') >> Out[3]: True > > If you consider strings, only an empty string has a false > value. So the string 'False' which is non-empty, results in > a true boolean valu

Re: business date and calendar libraries?

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > I'm wondering what libraries people would use to answer the following > questions relating to business days: > > - on a naive level; "what's give me the last business day" (ie: skipping > weekends) import datetime def is_weekend(year, month,

Re: Accessing windoze file attributes

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Douglas wrote: > Environment: X86, 1Gb RAM, Win XP, latest SP, Excel 2003. > > Hi, can anyone direct a relative newbie to the best source of info? > I am writing my own backup app in Python 2.5.2 (all my company will > allow me to use) using IDLE. > I intend to run

Re: Pyflakes and IPython does not work for Emacs on Windows?

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Dsrt Egle wrote: > ... > I can't invoke IPython by Emacs on Windows, either. Looks ipyhon.el > only works for Linux? There don't appear to be a lot of ipython.el users on Windows. You may have better look on an emacs list since there appear to be some configuration

Re: PyRTF object model

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > I am trying to use PyRTF. > > I gather that an RTF doc consists of a list of sections, a section > consists of a list of paras, > paras seem to be just text (not sure on that one) > > Some questions: > > When does one end one section and start

Re: Python 2.7

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Antonio de Haro Millan wrote: > I can not install "Python Imaging Library 1.1.7 for Python 2.6 (Windows > only)" > because I have the Python 2.7. A solution please... download http://effbot.org/media/downloads/PIL-1.1.7/win32-py2.7.exe -- http://mail.python.org/mai

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