Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort > of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in > some status being sent back such as DELIVERABLE or NO SUCH

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > On 2023-11-01, Simon Connah via Python-list python-list@python.org wrote: > > > I'm building a simple project using smtplib and have a > > question. I've been doing unit testing but I'm not sure how to check > > if an email message is valid. >

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 02Nov2023 17:04, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in some status being sent back such as

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 05:21, Simon Connah via Python-list > python-list@python.org wrote: > > > Could someone push me in the right direction please? I just want to find > > out if a string is a valid email address. > > > There is only one way to

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > On 2023-11-01, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 05:21, Simon Connah via Python-list > > python-list@python.org wrote: > > > > > Could someone push me in the right direction please? I just want to > > >

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-01 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
mail has to be in > order to be bounced. If it was completely wrong it might just swallowed up. > Every address is completely separate. There is no "closeness". Just send email to an address. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 17:47, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: > > On 02Nov2023 17:04, Chris Angelico wrote: > >On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list > > wrote: > >> Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test > >> mess

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > > See https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9585?page=0,0 > That looks painful to maintain! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Grizzy Adams via Python-list
Thursday, November 02, 2023 at 6:46, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: Re: Checking if email is valid (at least in part) >My goal is to make a simple mailing list platform. I guess I could just send >email to an address and if it bounces then I can remove it from the database. That fu

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
, > =dn I'm not sure that would be practical. As I'm setting up a mailing list server I don't know if someone in the future is going to need to use one of those aliases and testing manually would be tedious. Simon. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-02, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > On 2023-11-01 17:17, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 08:09, Grant Edwards via Python-list >> wrote: >>> Make sure it has an '@' in it. Possibly require at least one '.' >>

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Alan Bawden via Python-list
Chris Angelico writes: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test > message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient > but merely results in some status being sent bac

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Dan Purgert via Python-list
On 2023-11-02, dn wrote: > On 02/11/2023 19.46, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: >> [...] >> My goal is to make a simple mailing list platform. I guess I could >> just send email to an address and if it bounces then I can remove it >> from the database. Thing is I

pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
r/bin/pip3 but they're identical so presuably I can now simply use pip and it will be a python3 pip. So, going on from this, how do I do the equivalent of "apt update; apt upgrade" for my globally installed pip packages? -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread D'Arcy Cain via Python-list
On 2023-11-02 02:04, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in some status being

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
gital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Yes, Chris, many things can be used for lesser purposes. Perhaps this could be like when people automate guessing passwords and one defense is to stop accepting after N bad guesses till some external method resets things. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
consistency. A new package version may be incompatible to a previous one -- and with other package you have installed. I do not think that you would want to auto-upgrade all installed packages. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Errors

2023-11-02 Thread Zigocut Technologies via Python-list
a new connection: [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed')': /simple/kivy-deps-gstreamer-dev/" how can I go about these errors? I am running windows 10 Best Regards *Owner Zigocut Technologies * *+256774306868/701067528* -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread D'Arcy Cain via Python-list
On 2023-11-02 00:18, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in some status being sent back such as DELIVERABLE or NO SUCH USER or even MAILBOX FULL. It

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
ot;home\""@ (Chris's host.)public.example for example? And would you be able to do anything with it if you did? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
if the new version of bar was 2.0.0 then "pip list -o" will list it, but you should not upgrade to it.) You can do "pip install -I foo", which will pointlessly reinstall foo and then presumably upgrade bar as well, thus probably getting to the right result via a rather roundabout route, but I'm not sure if that does indeed work properly and if it is a reliable and recommended way of doing things. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
or my globally installed pip packages? I'm not sure what that question has to do with everything that preceded it, but you don't want to install python packages globally using pip. Either install them with 'apt', or install them in a virtual environment. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 11/2/23 00:42, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: > Basically I'm writing unit tests and one of them passess in a string > with an invalid email address. I need to be able to check the string > to see if it is a valid email so that the unit test passess. If you truly have mana

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
s indeed work properly and if it is a reliable and recommended way > of doing things. It is a bit of a minefield isn't it. I try to minimise my use of packages installed using pip for this very reason. Maybe the safest route would simply be to uninstall everything and then re-install it. · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
. > Either install them with 'apt', or install them in a virtual environment. Why in a virtual environment? When I install a package whether from apt or from pip I want everyone/everything on my system to be able to use it. I do only install a few things using pip. -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
om pip I want everyone/everything on my system to be able to > use it. Because pip barely plays well by itself, let alone with other package managers at the same time. > I do only install a few things using pip. Are they not available in your system's package manager? I guess you might get away with "sudo -H pip install -U foo" for a couple of things, if they don't have many dependencies. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
ay >> of doing things. > > It is a bit of a minefield isn't it. I try to minimise my use of > packages installed using pip for this very reason. Maybe the safest > route would simply be to uninstall everything and then re-install it. That is literally what I do quite often - completely erase the virtual env and then re-create it from scratch - because it seems to be the only / easiest way to upgrade the packages to the latest versions consistent with given dependencies. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-02 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 11/2/23 04:58, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: I have a couple of systems which used to have python2 as well as python3 but as Ubuntu and Debian verions have moved on they have finally eliminated all dependencies on python2. So they now have only python3 and there is no python executable

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Mike Dewhirst via Python-list
If i wanted an email verifier I would look at open source frameworks and see how they do it. Django comes to mind.--(Unsigned mail from my phone) Original message From: Michael Torrie via Python-list Date: 3/11/23 07:23 (GMT+10:00) To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 07:17, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-11-02, Simon Connah wrote: > > Valid as in conforms to the standard. Although having looked at the > > standard that might be more difficult than originally planned. > > Yes. Almost nobody

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
recognize most of them properly? That trained algorithm could be shared and incorporated into your programs either as the only method, or one you use in special cases. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Mike Dewhirst via Python-list Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:31 PM To

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-02 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 12:21, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > My guess is that a first test of an email address might be to see if a decent > module of that kind fills out the object to your satisfaction. You can then > perhaps test parts of the object, rather than everything at onc

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-03 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
and such. These rarely have any dependencies or they are all the same dependencies as the other I2C device software. So, hopefully, I won't hit any big problems. I have to say that so far I haven't been bitten. I would point out that this is mostly for a headless Beaglebone Black single board computer (comparable with a Raspberry Pi) with only a minimal 'console' installation of Debian so it's a pretty minimal system. -- Chris Green · -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-03 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-03, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 12:21, AVI GROSS via Python-list > wrote: >> My guess is that a first test of an email address might be to see if >> a decent module of that kind fills out the object to your >> satisfaction. You can then p

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-03 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
E bad addresses. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 1:43 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Checking if email is valid On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 12:21, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > My guess is that a fi

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-03 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:35:43PM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: Regardless of ... > Because pip barely plays well by itself, let alone with other package > managers at the same time. ... being true ... > > I do only install a few things using pip. > > Are the

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-03 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
release by using this constraint file. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-03 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-11-02, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > On 11/2/23 00:42, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: > >> Valid as in conforms to the standard. Although having looked at the >> standard that might be more difficult than originally planned. > > You'll have to

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-03 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > > On 11/2/23 00:42, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: > > > Basically I'm writing unit tests and one of them passess in a string > > with an invalid email address. I need to be able to check the string > > to see if it is a valid email so that the

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-03 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/3/2023 6:51 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: On 2023-11-03, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 12:21, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: My guess is that a first test of an email address might be to see if a decent module of that kind fills out the object to your

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-04 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
> > On 11/3/2023 6:51 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > > > On 2023-11-03, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 12:21, AVI GROSS via Python-list > > > python-list@python.org wrote: > > > > >

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-04 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
interesting to see what broke when you tried to use an esoteric email address in the wild. Maybe when I'm bored :D. Simon. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-04 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 11/4/23 02:51, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: > Wow. I'm half tempted to make a weird email address to see how many websites > get it wrong. > > Thank you for the link. Nearly all websites seem to reject simple correct email addresses such as myemail+sometext@example.d

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-04 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:07:33PM -0600 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: > >So they now have only python3 and there is no python executable in > >PATH. > > FWIW, for this you install the little stub package python-is-python3. > Especially if you > want to kee

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-04 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-03, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:35:43PM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > > Regardless of ... > >> Because pip barely plays well by itself, let alone with other package >> managers at the same time. > > ... being true

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-04 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-11-04, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > On 11/4/23 02:51, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: > >> Wow. I'm half tempted to make a weird email address to see how many >> websites get it wrong. In my experience, they don't have to be very weird at all

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread D'Arcy Cain via Python-list
On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most useless and widely broken things on the Interwebs. People who do anything other than require an '@' (and optionally make you enter the same @-con

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
newsletters and much more. Some are inadvertent but the reality is she stopped using that email as it is now mostly full of SPAM as the others ... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Grant Edwards via Python-list Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 12:39 AM To: python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread gene heskett via Python-list
On 11/5/23 05:32, D'Arcy Cain via Python-list wrote: On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most useless and widely broken things on the Interwebs.  People who do anything other than requ

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-11-05, D'Arcy Cain via Python-list wrote: > On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: >> Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most >> useless and widely broken things on the Interwebs. People who do >> any

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-05, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: >> Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most >> useless and widely broken things on the Interwebs. People who do >> anything other than req

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-03, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:07:33PM -0600 schrieb Mats Wichmann via > Python-list: >> >So they now have only python3 and there is no python executable in >> >PATH. >> >> FWIW, for this you install the little stub package

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-05, Chris Green wrote: > Jon Ribbens wrote: >> On 2023-11-03, Karsten Hilbert wrote: >> > Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:07:33PM -0600 schrieb Mats Wichmann via >> > Python-list: >> >> >So they now have only python3 and there is no python execut

Help

2023-11-05 Thread office officce via Python-list
which python version is better to be used and how to make sure it works on my window 10 because i downloaded it and it never worked so I uninstall to do that again please can you give me the steps on how it will work perfectly from Kenny -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 11/5/23 10:34, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: Indeed. There is a tiny but brightly burning kernel of hate in my heart for web sites (and their developers) that refuse to accept credit card numbers entered with spaces _as_they_are_shown_on_the_card_! I've concluded that usin

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-11-05, D'Arcy Cain via Python-list wrote: >> On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: >>> Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most >>> useless and widely brok

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2023-11-03, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > > Am Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:07:33PM -0600 schrieb Mats Wichmann via > > Python-list: > >> >So they now have only python3 and there is no python executable in > >> >PATH. > >> > &g

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
rkflow ? Thanks, Karsten -- GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 01:53:32PM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > >> Are they not available in your system's package manager? > > > > ... this clearly often answers to "no" for applications of > > any complexity. > > > > Is ther

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 03:00:41PM + schrieb Chris Green via Python-list: > > * contact every single maintainer of every single one of the packages > > that needs updating and persuade them to update their packages and > > reassure them that you are getting all

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-05 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-05, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > Am Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 01:53:32PM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > >> >> Are they not available in your system's package manager? >> > >> > ... this clearly often answers to "no" for applic

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-05 Thread D'Arcy Cain via Python-list
On 2023-11-05 06:48, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: Sometimes I think that these sorts of stupid, wrong, validation are the fault of idiot managers. When it's apostrophes though I'm suspicious that it may be idiot programmers who don't know how to prevent SQL injection attac

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
to discuss this on an `apt` related mailing list. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Simon Connah via Python-list
hell has a landline these days? And not accepting your mobile number in the landline number field is just when I give up. Or having a landline only field that does not accept mobile phones. Simon. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 11/6/23 01:57, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: The thing I truly hate is when you have two telephone number fields. One for landline and one for mobile. I mean who in hell has a landline these days? People who live in places with spotty, or no, mobile coverage. We do exist. -- https

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-06, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > On 2023-11-05 06:48, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: >> Sometimes I think that these sorts of stupid, wrong, validation are the >> fault of idiot managers. When it's apostrophes though I'm suspicious >> that it may be idi

Detect naming typos (AttributeError) in function names

2023-11-06 Thread Christian Buhtz via Python-list
ng else for that. Kind Christian -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2023-11-06, Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 11/6/23 01:57, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: >> The thing I truly hate is when you have two telephone number fields. >> One for landline and one for mobile. I mean who in hell has a >> landline these days? > > People who

Re: Detect naming typos (AttributeError) in function names

2023-11-06 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
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Re: Detect naming typos (AttributeError) in function names

2023-11-06 Thread George Fischhof via Python-list
Dieter Maurer via Python-list ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 6., H, 19:13): > c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote at 2023-11-6 12:47 +: > >I would like to know how to detect (e.g. via a linter) typos in function > >names imported from another module. > > One option is a test suite (-

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 02:05, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > That was another thing that I used to find ridiculous, but seems to have > improved somewhat in recent years - website error pages that said "please > contact us to let us know about this error". I'm sorry

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 11/6/23 08:23, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: On 2023-11-06, Mats Wichmann wrote: On 11/6/23 01:57, Simon Connah via Python-list wrote: The thing I truly hate is when you have two telephone number fields. One for landline and one for mobile. I mean who in hell has a landline these days

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 07:10, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > Suggests maybe labeling should be something like: > > * Number you want to be called on > * Number for texted security messages, if different > > Never seen that, though :-) > My responses would be: *

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 01:17:11AM - schrieb Jon Ribbens via Python-list: > >> >> Are they not available in your system's package manager? > >> > > >> > ... this clearly often answers to "no" for applications of > >> > any

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
sed application. Karsten -- GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 11/6/23 14:28, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: I had just hoped someone here might have a handy pointer for how to deal with modules having to be installed from pip for use with an apt-installed python-based application. That just shouldn't happen - such packages are supposed

Re: Help

2023-11-06 Thread Jason Friedman via Python-list
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 1:23 PM office officce via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > which python version is better to be used and how to make sure it works on > my window 10 because i downloaded it and it never worked so I uninstall to > do that again please can you gi

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 02:43:47PM -0700 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: > >I had just hoped someone here might have a handy pointer for > >how to deal with modules having to be installed from pip for > >use with an apt-installed python-based application. > > Th

Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-06 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/6/2023 5:04 PM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Am Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 02:43:47PM -0700 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: I had just hoped someone here might have a handy pointer for how to deal with modules having to be installed from pip for use with an apt-installed

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
umber into the landline field or vice versa and reject it, then it can figure out whether it can text to a given numner or not without you having to tell it! -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
ve what the customer tells you." -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 at 10:11, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > > On 7/11/23 7:45 am, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > Continuing with the example, if you have a single phone number field, or > > let a mobile number be entered in a field marked for landline, you will > > probabl

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-06 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
forwarded. And, if I do not choose to read my texts, no amount of sending would enlighten me about your needs. I know people who get WhatsApp messages but not standard texts, for example. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Monday, November 6

Re: Detect naming typos (AttributeError) in function names

2023-11-06 Thread Christian Buhtz via Python-list
hint that "pylint" is able to detect problems like this. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Aw: Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

2023-11-07 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
u would need to come up with > an APT-based installer that doesn't do that. > > Obviously it's not unthinkable; Certainly not, it's just that I had hoped someone goes: look here and all of this ... > it is just one more thing to figure out. ... has been thought through before. Thanks, Karsten -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Detect naming typos (AttributeError) in function names

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/7/2023 2:48 AM, Christian Buhtz via Python-list wrote: Hello Dieter, thanks for your reply. Am 06.11.2023 19:11 schrieb Dieter Maurer: One option is a test suite (--> Python's "unittest" package) with a sufficiently high coverage (near 100 %). Yes, that is the prima

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-07 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2023-11-06, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > On 7/11/23 7:45 am, Mats Wichmann wrote: >> Continuing with the example, if you have a single phone number field, or >> let a mobile number be entered in a field marked for landline, you will >> probably assume you ca

Re: Python Golf

2023-11-07 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
e an 'awk' replacement. Having said that, you could make it a bit shorter: py -c "print(sum(int(F.split()[1])for F in open(0)))" https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-07 Thread D'Arcy Cain via Python-list
On 2023-11-07 08:40, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: If you, as a web developer, want the user to enter a text-message capable phone number, then ASK FOR THAT! And you may as well ask if they even want you to send texts whether they can technically receive them or not. -- D'Arc

Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11

2023-11-07 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
_UNICODETEXT, "0") pywintypes.error: (0, 'SetClipboardData', 'No error message is available') I can get round the problem by using SetClipboardText().  But can anyone shed light on this? Best wishes Rob Cliffe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Python Golf

2023-11-07 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
you had python import sys by default and perhaps even create a briefer alias for sys.stdin, then this gets shorter: py -c "import sys; print(sum(int(F.split()[1])for F in sys.stdin))" On Behalf Of Jon Ribbens via Python-list Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 11:06 AM To: python-list@

RE: Checking if email is valid

2023-11-07 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
onder if it makes sense to NOT insist people give you their email address at all, and make it optional so they do not need to provide you with something bogus just to go on. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of D'Arcy Cain via Python-list Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 1

fCONV_AUSRICHTG is not defined - Why?

2023-11-07 Thread Egon Frerich via Python-list
enter'], ['Aufg', 2, 4, 'u', '', 'center', 'center'], ['Text', 25, 25, 's', '-', 'left', 'left'], ['Ergänzung', 12, 12, 's', '-', 'left', 'left'], ['Betrag', 13, 13, 's', '', 'right', 'right'], ['W', 1, 2, 's', '', 'center', 'center'], ['WBetrag', 7, 7, 's', '', 'right', 'right'], ['Kurs', 6, 6, 's', '', 'right', 'right']] 0 0 3 4 Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/home/egon/Entw/Geldspur/geldspur/testGeldspurGUI.py", line 15, in     from tests.testU2 import testU2   File "/home/egon/Entw/Geldspur/geldspur/tests/testU2.py", line 9, in     from gui.GUI_Konfig import GUIcfg   File "/home/egon/Entw/Geldspur/geldspur/gui/GUI_Konfig.py", line 11, in     class GUIcfg:   File "/home/egon/Entw/Geldspur/geldspur/gui/GUI_Konfig.py", line 90, in GUIcfg     ["%s%s%s " % (i[fCONV_AUSRICHTG], i[fLG2], i[fTYP]) for i in Felder])   File "/home/egon/Entw/Geldspur/geldspur/gui/GUI_Konfig.py", line 90, in     ["%s%s%s " % (i[fCONV_AUSRICHTG], i[fLG2], i[fTYP]) for i in Felder]) NameError: name 'fCONV_AUSRICHTG' is not defined You see "Felder" and with "0 0 3 4" the correct value 4 for fCONV_AUSRICHTG. But there is the NameError. What does mean? Is there a change from python2 to python3? Egon -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/5/2023 7:51 PM, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: Recently I switched from Python 3.8.3 to Python 3.11.4.  A strange problem appeared which was not there before: I am using the win32clipboard backage (part of pywin32), and when I use SetClipboardData() to write text which consists

RE: Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11

2023-11-07 Thread Jim Schwartz via Python-list
It doesn't work in python 3.12.0 -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Thomas Passin via Python-list Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 12:08 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Writing to clipboard in Python 3.11 On 11/5/2023 7:51 PM, Rob Cliffe via Python-list

Re: fCONV_AUSRICHTG is not defined - Why?

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/7/2023 12:47 PM, Egon Frerich via Python-list wrote: I've no idea why this happens. In a module there are lists and definitions:     Felder = [     # Name   lg1  lg2 typ   Ausrichtung Holen Prüfen Prüfvorg     ["Jahr", 4, 5, "u", "", "

Re: fCONV_AUSRICHTG is not defined - Why?

2023-11-07 Thread Jim Schwartz via Python-list
Where do you define fCONV_AUSRICHTG? It must be initialized or defined somewhere. Did you leave out a statement from the python 2 version? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Thomas Passin via Python-list > wrote: > > On 11/7/2023 12:47 PM, Egon Frerich via Pytho

Re: Python Golf

2023-11-07 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
why it's called "golf"! It would be basically insane to use open(0) instead of sys.stdin like this except where the length of the source code overrides all other considerations - which is essentially never, unless playing code golf... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: fCONV_AUSRICHTG is not defined - Why?

2023-11-07 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 11/7/2023 3:29 PM, MRAB via Python-list wrote: On 2023-11-07 19:20, Jim Schwartz via Python-list wrote: Where do you define fCONV_AUSRICHTG? It must be initialized or defined somewhere. Did you leave out a statement from the python 2 version? It's given its value

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