resend all of the original for the sake of a
seven word question and a one word answer?
Yes? ;-)
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+ A[:i]
Examples:
f([0,2,0,1,0,3,0])
Out[23]: [0, 0, 2, 0, 1, 0, 3]
f([2,3,4,0,1])
Out[24]: [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]
Wolfram
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On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 10:14:29 PM UTC-6, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:19:49 -0700, rurpy--- via Python-list
> writes:
> >On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 8:00:14 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >>[...]
> >> use pip (maybe in
On 08/17/2015 01:52 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:05:29 -0700, rurpy--- via Python-list
> writes:
>> So I eventually found the kivy docs on their website where they
>> list prerequisite packages for installing kivy on ubuntu. I'll
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f writing a compiler or interpreter in those days, and
there were far fewer tools to help, or easily accessible knowledge
about how to do do it.
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ata model" used in specifying the
Python language for implementors but this thread seems to be about
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quot; from some other language. And for
those people who don't then one could argue they are a clean slate
and using the word "pointer" won't hurt.
(JFTR, I am not against describing python in terms of "reference",
"binding" etc, I just object to the vehement frothing at the mouth
and insistence of one Single Truth that occurs here whenever anyone
attempts to present some alternative. As I said in another post one
size does not fit all.)
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means in languages that use the
word is *so* different than its meaning in the Python sense, that using
it for Python is more misleading than helpful. You think so, perhaps
because you focus on the unmanaged and memory-address aspects of its use.
I consider those as non-determining characteristics of a thing that points
to something and instead consider its pointingness to be its defining
characteristic, in those languages and in Python, and thus find it
perfectly descriptive for Python.
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On 09/12/2015 04:14 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
> On 9/12/2015 12:58 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote:
>
>> The question is whether what "pointer" means in languages that use the
>> word is*so* different than its meaning in the Python sense
>
> I can'
On 09/12/2015 05:14 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 23:34, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote:
>> On 09/12/2015 04:14 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
>>> On 9/12/2015 12:58 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote:
>>>
>>>> The question is whether what "p
On 09/12/2015 05:39 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 4:05:21 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On 09/12/2015 04:14 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
>>> On 9/12/2015 12:58 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ques
roperties are not intrinsic requirements
for pointerness then describing the things "in" a python object that are used
to identify and dereference other objects, as pointers is not at all
unreasonable.
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hon doesn't have pointers (or something that can be labeled as
such), just that the existence of id() and cpython's internal use
of pointers are not good arguments that it doesn't.
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ou do not have a clear idea what I
have written.
One of the most effective ways for a community to discredit
itself is to make accusations of trolling in response to
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ion. It's one thing to respond when a person
> comes into a thread to troll unbidden; it is quite another to taunt them
> unprompted.
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ion* of how names and variables are bound may (or may not)
> involve pointers, but that is outside of the language abstraction, whether
> we are talking about Python, C or Pascal.
It is not outside the language abstraction if the description is
"as-if" equivalent to every possible implementation choice, that
is, it is isomorphic. (Probably not the right word but you get
the idea).
This discussion has bifurcated into two related but distinct issues:
1) Whether pointer is acceptable terminology for reference.
2) What in Python should or should not be described in terms
of reference/pointer.
There were some places above where I wasn't sure if your objection
was on the grounds of 1 or 2.
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>[...]
> I don't know about the others, but I am finding this rather more
> entertaining than another round of 'python -- does it have pointers'
> in python-list.
Could we please dispense wi
echo.
echo __
echo.
echo Script processing has ended.
echo Press any key to exit. . .
pause>nul
If there is anyone with any idea how to fix it I'd love you forever :)
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ime.sleep(1)
self.ser.write(chr(26))
time.sleep(1)
print "message sent!"
def disconnectPhone(self):
self.ser.close()
When run it, the "message sent!" is printed but no message is sent/delivered.
Please assist on what I am missing. Thank you
If it's like the GSM modem I used then you should replace those "\r"
strings with "\r\n".
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t;Hello", s)
Questions :
1. Decorate the method 'hello' with 'str2printf' and write the corresponding
code.
2. What is the effect of the decorator on a call to the new method 'hello' ?
3. What is the return value of hello.__doc__
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you told us the error (cut & paste it, don't retype it) we
could help? Similarly knowing the OS you are using would help.
Without that info how can anyone help you?
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There used to be a blog about SciPy at https://planet.scipy.org/ , discussing
the applications of Python to scientific computing. Now there is a static page
about "MPI for Python". What happened?
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code above falls into an infinite loop, printing :
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
...
198435
198436
198437
^Z
So why lists and sets don't react the same way?
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Thanks for the response and the reference, indeed sets and lists behave
differently...
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le or
$this->somevariable which say equal "some string"
I have played around with passing self.myText instead of 'alan turing' and it
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t;
self.conn.close()
x = do()
x.doConn()
#all select statements work , the first two strings are defined under class so
referencing with 'self' works. other is defined inside method so doesn't need
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to android via buildozer ,for an off line searchable version of the digital
encyclopedia from SOSchildren. PHP version here:
http://www.ginbrookesfoundation.org/showArticle/70
I'm just glad I have half a clue now! Loving python so far anyway!
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Thank You
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On 11/01/2015 03:06 AM, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 1 November 2015 at 09:23, t_ciorba--- via Python-list
> wrote:
>>
>> hi, i am not sure what is wrong, but after launching the installer
>> for windows XPsp3 python-3.5.0.exe i couldnt see what i have to
>> select
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:43 AM, rurpy--- via Python-list
> wrote:
> > Why, oh why, do the python.org front page and other pages that offer
> > a Windows download not say a word about it not run
On 11/01/2015 09:43 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:24 AM, rurpy--- via Python-list
> wrote:
>> I dont recall seeing anyone posting asking why they could not get
>> Python to install on Windows 95 recently. I only read this group
>> intermittent
entist, or financial quant may still
be better off learning Python 2.x but using print(x) rather than print x and
doing other things to future-proof his code.
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for the reminder.
You're welcome. And thanks for the reasonable response. Everytime
I post to this list it is like stepping into Alice's Wonderland so
it is a nice change.
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here are people who misuse regexes. But I am quite sure,
especially in the Python community, there are just as many who fail to
use them when they are appropriate which is just as bad.
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>nope(line)
> > >
> > >-tkc
> > >
> > >
> > Because that is the part of Python I am trying to learn at the moment.
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>
> My completely unsolicited advi
repeat I acknowledge regexs are not the
the optimum solution in every case where they could be used. But they
are very useful when one passes the border of the trivial; and they are
nowhere near as bad as routinely portrayed here.
[*] Yes, I made that number up.
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On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 9:38:24 PM UTC-7, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 11/02/2015 09:23 PM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote:
> >> My completely unsolicited advice is that regular expressions shouldn't be
> >> very high on the list of things to learn. They are very us
tty
thin and it wasn't worth the time to figure out how to use it.
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I should have checked the web site before posting, it
appears that both libpst and libpff only read pst files,
no write. Sorry for the noise.
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need not even be a programmer
> to use them: consider grep, sed, a zillion editors, database query
> languages, etc.
I thought the context, which you removed even to the point cutting
text from the very same line you quoted, made that clear but perhaps
not.
Indeed it is quite eye-opening when one does learn a little CS and
discovers these things that were just a useful "feature" actually have
a deep and profound theoretical basis.
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sufficiently complex regular expression.
No, Christian was correct.
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nswer and not be bombarded with reasons
why they shouldn't be using regexes beyond mentioning some of the alternatives
in a "oh, by the way" way. (And yes, I recognize in this case the OP did
get a good answer from MRAB early on.)
[*] yes, I know there is a lot of CS theory underlying floating point.
I don't think it is as deep or as important as that underlying regexes,
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e them, but take them with a BIG grain of salt and continue
learning about and using regexs.
You will find they are an indispensable tool, not just in Python
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On 11/04/2015 05:33 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 11:13 AM, rurpy--- via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On 11/04/2015 07:52 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:38 AM, rurpy wrote:
>>>> I'm afraid you are making a category
that profoundly insightful comment.
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your
arguments pedantic beyond the point of absurdity. For me, regular
expressions are indispensable in that if they were not available in
Python I would not use Python. The same is true of a number of other
stdlib modules. I don't give a rat's ass whether they are in a
"library" that has to be explicitly requested with import or a
"library" that is automatically loaded at startup.
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you can see from the other posts, there
> are alternatives, which are often FAR superior.
No, not FAR superior, just preferable and just in the simple cases,
regexes generally being better in anything beyond simple.
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ack the knowledge of
> using such tools.
I think in many cases those most hostile to regexes are the also
those who use them (or need to use them) the least. While my use
of regexes are limited to fairly simple ones they are complicated
enough that I'm sure it would take orders of magnitude longer
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ntioned though, the term "slicing" is also used with a
very specific and different meaning in Python, specifically referring
to a part of a list using a syntax like "alist[a:b]". I can't seem
to get to python.org at the moment but if you look in the Python
docs index under "slicing" you'll find more info.
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On 10/11/2015 20:14, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
The Ada language defines the end of Text file to consist of
It is 15 years this month since I last worked in place that used Ada. I
think that calls for a wee dram to celebrate ;-)
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On 10/11/2015 21:02, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:36:52 +, mm0fmf via Python-list
declaimed the following:
On 10/11/2015 20:14, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
The Ada language defines the end of Text file to consist of
It is 15 years this month since I last worked in place
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fullpath = p + "/" + target
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r " + str(item_num) + " ? ")
> how_many = input("How many items at that price? ")
>
> if input == done:
> print("The total price is $" + str(total_price) + ". And the number of
> items for that price is " + str(total_items) + ".")
Same here:
while price != "done" and how_many != "done":
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to the defined initial
point are specified by this pattern.
Does somebody know a good technique for this problem? or can even give a hint
to a existing python procedure?
I would be really grateful!
Regards
Benny
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nd="")
For Python 2 use this:
import sys
.
.
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sys.stdout.write(line)
Don' forget...
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xample of what I have tried...
>
> nb.grid(row=2, column=2)
> or
> nb.place(x=10, y=10)
>
> Would be appreciated if anyone could provide any guidance.
I posted too quickly. I found my answer...
nb.pack(expand=1, fill="both", padx=20, pady=20)
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:22:31 +, MRAB wrote:
> On 2017-02-21 18:02, Wildman via Python-list wrote:
>> Python 3.4.2
>> Linux platform
>>
>>
>> I am working on a program that has tabs created with ttk.Notebook.
>> The code for creating the tabs is worki
27;NoneType' object has no attribute 'call'
>From my research, the syntax is correct but I am having
doubts. Can anyone clarify?
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:17:00 +0100, Peter Otten wrote:
> Wildman via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Python 3.4.2
>> Tkinter 8.6
>> Linux
>>
>> I want to set the font in a GUI program I am working on.
>> Here is the pertinent code I am using...
>>
>&
rt with the netnews protocol? You can get a
> > machine-readable version of the newsgroup much more simply that way, I
> > would have thought.
> >
> > ChrisA
>
> I don't know what a netnews protocol is. I use Google Groups to look at
> usenet.
As a lot of us do.
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>
> ChrisA
I would love to hear also. I've been using Linux for about
10 years and I have never had anything "break" because of a
tab. Sounds like a case of Chicken Little to me.
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 15:18:06 +0200, Mikhail V wrote:
> On 26 March 2017 at 06:16, Wildman via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:15:14 +0100, Mikhail V wrote:
>>
>>> And on linux console, by default one does not even have good
>>> possibilities
display environment variable is set:
$ echo $DISPLAY
:0.0
And the program displays and works perfectly in every other way.
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Linfo-tk as root
auth_admin
auth_admin
auth_admin
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ish language to make your
point (that people often prefer that which they're familiar with)
without employing hateful stereotypes directed at a specific groups
of people.
Given that this is the second time in two weeks, I publicly ask the
list moderators to invoke whatever procedures they use to deal with
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posters and ignore it when it comes to a one of the clique of regulars.
[*1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2017-April/720531.html
[*2] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2017-April/721106.html
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hough there is no evidence, the seriousness of
the charge is what matters."
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On 04/17/2017 04:38 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Rurpy via Python-list writes:
>
>> A couple weeks ago a frequent poster here (Steve D'Aprano
>> ) called another participant an "ugly
>> american" [*1].
>
> He gave no explicit reference, and so I can see w
On 04/17/2017 08:19 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:23:34 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>> Paul Rubin writes:
>>> Rurpy writes:
>>>> A couple weeks ago a frequent poster here (Steve D'Aprano
>>>> ) called another participant a
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:54:17 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Wildman via Python-list writes:
>
>> "The seriousness of the charge mandates that we investigate
>> this. Even though there is no evidence, the seriousness of
>> the charge is what matters."
>>
fense himself.
If you want to shorten this thread then dont post inflammatory
remarks that will perpetuate it.
Please trim your replies and dont top post.
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On 04/18/2017 08:19 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Rurpy via
> Python-list wrote:
>> I have nothing personal against Steven. He called someone out
>> for being bigoted, then repeated the exact same offense himself.
>
> The charge has b
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 03:28:32 +, Rurpy wrote:
> On 04/17/2017 08:19 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:23:34 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>>> Paul Rubin writes:
>>>> Rurpy writes:
>>>>> A couple weeks ago a frequent poste
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:19:10 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Rurpy via Python-list
> wrote:
>> Whether you like it or not this list has a CoC governing it.
>> Discussions about appropriate posts ARE on-topic.
>> If you want a list where
On 04/18/2017 09:29 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Rurpy via
> Python-list wrote:
>> On 04/18/2017 08:19 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Rurpy via
>>> Python-list wrote:
>>>> I have nothing p
On 04/18/2017 09:35 AM, Wildman via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 03:28:32 +, Rurpy wrote:
>> On 04/17/2017 08:19 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Your words remind me of this:
>>>
>>> "The seriousness of the charge
ewsgroup people, where there is no central
> authority at all.
>
> ChrisA
I believe the lack of moderator action supports the
conclusion that the CoC was not violated.
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oup people, where there is no central
> authority at all.
Perhaps you missed this rebuttal to Mr. Finney's "solid" argument?
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2017-April/721281.html
Perhaps you also failed to notice that neither Mr. Finney nor you
chose to dispute tha
tain number of posts?
Again, I'd really appreciate it if you could clarify.
I apologize for all the questions and sorry for sounding like
a silly emotion-driven liberal before!
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On 04/19/2017 01:56 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Rurpy via Python-list writes:
>
>> I don't think stupid black people or senile old people should be
>> allowable because those are not choosable *behaviors*. But is
>> unable-to-learn old people a choosable behavior?
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On 04/19/2017 08:27 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Rurpy via Python-list writes:
>
>> You and Chris refused to find any fault with the use of the two
>> stereotypes under discussion one of which was "unable-to-learn old
>> people".
>
> I expressed absolutely no
alance should be changed, fine.
My point is simply that whatever balance is chosen, it should apply
to all participants equally.
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even-handedly."
>
> I agree entirely with that.
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ffensive but acceptable.
That being said, there are certainly sigs that are offensive enough
to community standards as to be unacceptable. But the bar for sigs
should be much higher than for bigotry directed towards a person
in a discussion.
And the point of my first post remains: whatever that bar is should
be applied evenhandedly, with regard to both the poster and to the
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On Fri, 05 May 2017 07:46:32 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Wildman via Python-list
> wrote:
>> I will try to explain...
>> The program reports system information based on the user's name.
>> Things such as passwd, groups and shadow i
On Fri, 05 May 2017 08:31:15 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Wildman via Python-list
> wrote:
>> I am using pkexec to restart so $SUDO_USER is not set. For some
>> reason sudo, su and su-to-root will freeze the first instance of
>> the prog
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