Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> The real problem is that newbies won't know which features are "meta"
> features best left to experts, and which features are ok for everyday
> programmers to use.
I think the original contributor to this thread was f
"Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> Some people refused properties in Python for exactly this reason.
> Defining somewhat like:
>
> def _get_X(self):
> return self._X
>
> def _set_X(self,X):
> self._X =3D X
>
> X =3D property(_get_X, _set_
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> You might also look at the work Richard Jones and others did on PyPI
> during their PyCon sprint. Richard was confident that PyPI
Hmmm. It would appear that this information wasn't "cleared" by the PSU. ;-)
Paul
-
Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On 4/14/05, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Greg Ewing wrote:
> > > (Darn. I finally say something that gets into Quote of the
> > > Week, and it's attributed to someone else! :-) :-) :-)
> >
> > +1 on thi
Heiko Wundram wrote:
> Matthias Kaeppler wrote:
> >
Well, unless you are (or he is) in with the GNOME crowd, C probably
isn't really the object-oriented language acting as inspiration here.
[Zen of Python]
Of course the ZoP (Zen of Python) is deep guidance for those
languishing in some design d
Heiko Wundram wrote:
> Maybe I'm assuming things by thinking that others also follow my line of
> thought, but I've actually had very positive responses so far when telling
> people that a certain feature is a certain way and then pointing them to
> the ZoP, they all pretty much told me after a cer
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Weakly typed languages do not prevent you performing operations on
> mismatched types, e.g. something like 1 + "1" is allowed in languages like
> Basic and Perl.
Actually, Perl and at least the version of BASIC that I previously used
are not weakly-typed languages either.
Alan Kennedy wrote:
[Discussing the appearance of xmlns="DAV:"]
> But that's incorrect. You have now defaulted the namespace to "DAV:" for
> every unprefixed element that is a descendant of the href element.
[Code creating the no_ns element with namespaceURI set to None]
>
>
I must admit tha
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I look at it this way: as the class designer, I have ZERO idea what
> attributes and methods of my class will be just the perfect thing to solve
> somebody's problem, so it is rude of me to lock them up as private --
> especially since they *will* find a way to hack my clas
Alan Kennedy wrote:
> Serialisation and namespace normalisation are both in the realm of DOM
> Level 3, whereas minidom is only L2 compliant. Automagically introducing
> L3 semantics into the L2 implementation is the wrong thing to do.
I think I'll have to either add some configuration support, in
Claudio Grondi wrote:
> I have just discovered the existance of Puppy Linux which is a complete
> operating system with a suite of GUI apps, only about 50 - 60M booting
> directly off the CDROM ( http://www.puppylinux.org ).
This isn't really Python-related, but I thought that Puppy Linux would
Alex Martelli wrote:
> Jérôme Laheurte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry for the harsh tone, I just think GUI builders are *evil*. Except
> > maybe for QT Designer, which has a nice model where you implement
> > callbacks by subclassing the generated classes. At least you don't have to
> > look
Juergen Kareta wrote:
> look at:
> http://www.crazy-compilers.com/decompyle/
>
> it's only a online service. But if it works, it would be nice to have
> such a tool as standalone programm.
And the next search result for decompyle on Google is...
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/decompyl
J�r�me Laheurte wrote:
> > P.S. Why does Google Groups have to mangle J�r�me's name
>
> I didn't see anything wrong... Encoding problem ?
The preview and subsequent re-editing page typically show trashed
non-ASCII characters in Konqueror, which doesn't usually show such
brokenness on the pages I v
James Aguilar wrote:
> Suppose that I am writing a ray tracer in Python. Well, perhaps not a
> ray tracer. Suppose that I am writing a ray tracer that has to update
> sixty times a second (Ignore for now that this is impossible and silly.
> Ignore also that one would probably not choose Python to
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
bruno at modulix wrote:
> Adrian, what you describe here is *exactly* what I call "no Ajax
> support": you have to handle the whole thing manually, the framework
>doesn't provide anything by itself.
I'm not going to argue whether Django supports "Ajax" or not, but I
will agree that for the desired
Paul Rubin wrote:
> It's been a long-time source of puzzlement to me why so many web sites
> are so slow, and RDBMS overhead is an obvious candidate. So the rant
> seems appropriate even in the case of web apps where clients can cause
> db updates.
Indeed. Large portions of a lot of Web sites cou
Mike Meyer wrote:
[Browser behaviour]
> Actually, it's doing form processing. It's doing XMLHttpRequests.
You might want to add some workarounds for Konqueror. What I found was
that Konqueror (on KDE 3.4.0) has a tendency to add null bytes to the
end of some form field values. Consequently, I ge
Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
>
[Debian issues with Python]
> Only that Python is "smeared" over several different packages - idle is
> packed separately f.ex.
Yes, and I almost guarantee that you'll find yourself swearing over the
separate bundling of various header files in the python*-dev pa
Xavier Morel wrote:
> If you ever used a debian-based linux system, think of Eggs as a
> Python-specific apt-get.
>
> The most advanced kind of language-specific installer atm is the Ruby
> Gems packaging and distribution system (http://docs.rubygems.org/), go
> check it for more insight of what Eg
ankit wrote:
> I am parsing xml file using libxml2 and for navigating the document
> object tree I want to use minidom. Is it possible. Can anyone give me
> any example for the same ?
Try libxml2dom [1] if you want to use a minidom-style API on documents
parsed by libxml2. Recent namespace discus
ankit wrote:
> I checked for it and here are my comments on it:
> libxml2dom has Alpha release . So there may be some bugs in it. In our
> project we cant take risk to move back after deciding for one. Thanks
> for your reply.
Understood. I accept that there's some way to go before libxml2dom can
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Could anyone enlighten me/us as to why the Smart Package Manager [1]
> > (written in Python, presented at EuroPython this year) isn't being more
> > closely investigated as part of a suitable solution?
>
> More cl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> John J. Lee schrieb:
> >
> > I guess this is 'rendering' in a more general/abstract sense than
> > 'graphical rendering'.
>
> Exactly. In these case rendering means that you traverse a tree with
> widget objects and every is "rendered" to a text representation of
> itself
ankit wrote:
> Hi,
> I am working with libxml2dom package for having DOM support with
> libxml2.
> There are some test examples are given along with the package but when
> I try to run that, it gives me following error:
[...]
> File
> "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/libxml2dom/macrolib/macro
Tim Churches wrote:
>
> The key verb is "containing", and I'm sorry, but "link" (or "reference" or
> "call" or whatever other verb could reasonably used to describe
> dynamic run-time linking) does not mean the same as "contain".
What's interesting with respect to distribution of works (of course,
John J. Lee wrote:
> "Paul Boddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
> > many would advocate using "AJAX" techniques and dropping support for
> > conventional Web interactions, but I think that such advocacy and the
> > resulting applica
John J. Lee wrote:
> "Paul Boddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
> > many would advocate using "AJAX" techniques and dropping support for
> > conventional Web interactions, but I think that such advocacy and the
> > resulting applica
gregarican wrote:
>
[os.system using the start command on Windows]
> When I use this the PyQt app freezes up and only when I forcefully
> close it does the browser window pop up.
What does os.startfile do when invoked with the URL? My impression was
that the startfile function - available only o
Peter Hansen wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> > Can you tell me what to look for in an HTTPMessage that is an error? I
> > have looked at the header objects and I cannot determine an error
> > message.
>
> I think you're missing most of the context and detail that would help us
> provide a useful answer fo
Steve Holden wrote:
> Michael Galvin wrote:
> > To see an example of what I am trying to accomplish, look at this page
> > on my personal website:
> >
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/michaelgalvin/jan06call.html
> >
> > I now realize my attachement could not be posted on this usenet group.
> >
> I su
Adrian Holovaty wrote:
> Fuzzyman wrote:
> > web.py has the great advantage that (allegedly) you can migrate apps
> > from CGI to FastCGI, mod_python, WSGI.
>
> This isn't an advantage of web.py over other frameworks. You can do the
> same thing with Django, because it has a WSGI backend; people r
Paul Rubin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > That's the rub though. There are lots of ways to approach web app
> > frameworks. They all have their pros and cons. Deciding on one to ship
> > with Python will likely be a significant challenge.
There are lots of ways to approach a full Web ap
SPE - Stani's Python Editor wrote:
>
> During optimizing SPE for Ubuntu, I found something strange. I have
> Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" and unfortunately this code is not
> working:
>
> >>> import webbrowser
> >>> webbrowser.open("http://www.python.org";)
>
> It does not throw an exception, bu
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
>
> not very long ago, "Kepioo" wrote:
[...]
> which looks rather similar to your post, don't you think?
Are you calling "homework assignment", Fredrik? ;-)
Paul
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> What the language reference should have said IMO is that in case x
> is an attribute reference, index or slicing, the primary expression
> will be evaluated only once, as will be the index or slice in the
> two latter cases.
I think the difficulty here for the author of th
John Machin wrote:
> On 18/07/2006 12:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > it seems that range() can be really slow:
[...]
> Some things to try:
> 1a. Read what the manual has to say about the range() function ... what
> does it produce?
Indeed. Still, the addition of a __contains__ method to ran
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> Now maybe I'm just not bright enough, so maybe you can explain what
> something like col['t'] is evaluated to in a statement like:
>
> col['t'] = exp
In the notation given earlier, let us say that it would be this:
namespace = col
setitem(namespace, "t", exp)
Note that
John Machin wrote:
>
> range() and xrange() are functions. You are suggesting that 2
> *functions* should acquire a __contains__ method each? I trust not.
Well, range is a function in the current implementation, although its
usage is similar to that one would get if it were a class, particularly
a
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> It's unclear what you're referring to as "the range".
The notion of something describing a range of values which can be
expanded to a list or, of relevance here, whose boundaries can be
tested efficiently.
> Perhaps you're thinking of a slice? Somethign like
>
> if (0
John Machin wrote:
> On 19/07/2006 1:05 AM, Dan Bishop wrote:
> >
> > xrange already has __contains__.
>
> As pointed out previously, xrange is a function and one would not expect
> it to have a __contains__ method.
Well, you pointed out that range is a function, but xrange seems to be
a type...
Alex Martelli wrote:
> Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well, range is a function in the current implementation, although its
> > usage is similar to that one would get if it were a class, particularly
> > a subclass of list or one providing a
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
[Subclasses of list or slice for ranges]
> Except that if you write your own class from scratch, you can't use
> it as a slice. For a language that is supposed to be about duck typing
> I find it strange that if I make my own class with a start, stop and
> step attribute, t
Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> Except that if you write your own class from scratch, you can't use
> it as a slice.
Correct, but we were actually discussing subclassing built-in classes
for use as a replacement for range/xrange. :-)
It may be "hard work" writing all those methods in a totally new
range
Joe Knapka wrote:
>
> Steve Yegge's "Opinionated Elf" is an example of a problem
> that is very easy and elegant to solve with open classes,
> and painful to solve when classes are closed:
> http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/polymorphism-fails.html
For some value of "elegant", I suppose:
bruce wrote:
>
[Quoting "david"...]
> > I am trying to automate navigating to urls (all from a txt file) 1 at a time
> > in Firefox and then killing firefox before navigating to the next. I think I
> > might have to use PyXPCOM to do this but I have never used this package and
> > cannot find any
Jaroslaw Zabiello wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:20:44 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
[Quoting JZ...]
> >> Ruby
> >> has nice security system (private, protected, public scopes for methods and
> >> attributes,
> >
> > This is not "security", this is data-hiding.
>
> No. Data hiding are in Pyt
John Machin wrote:
> Sibylle Koczian wrote:
> > John Machin schrieb:
> > >
> > > base.commit()
[...]
> > That's not really fair, because transactions were added to MySQL only a
> > short time ago (at least to the default table type). There simply hasn't
> > yet been time for every experienced
Paul Rubin wrote:
>
> Instead of using os.system, maybe you want to use one of the popens or
> the subprocess module. For each ssh, you'd spawn off a process that
> does the ssh and communicates back to the control process through a
> set of file descriptors (Unix pipe endpoints or whatever). The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > the MySQL-centric culture of ignoring/ridiculing stuff they don't support
> > (and then eventually supporting it, in this case) is probably most to
> > blame if we have to point the finger.
[...]
> I think you shou
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Paul Boddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Whether this solves the questioner's problems remains to be seen, but
> > issues of handling SSH-based communications streams do seem to be
> > addressed.
>
> Actually I don't
Ben Sizer wrote:
>
> In my case, multimedia and game support is patchy,
There are lots of multimedia and game frameworks for Python. Which ones
have you tried and why are they insufficient?
> and web development support is still oriented towards the Java/enterprise
> user - if CGI
> doesn't suff
Ben Sizer wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Ben Sizer wrote:
> > >
> > > In my case, multimedia and game support is patchy,
> >
> > There are lots of multimedia and game frameworks for Python. Which ones
> > have you tried and why are they insufficient
Ben Sizer wrote:
>
> Even C++ comes with OpenGL in the standard library.
Which standard library?
[...]
> Does PyQT play well with PyGame? And isn't it more of a windowing
> environment?
I'll have to let that question go, but I imagine the PyQt mailing list
would be able to provide some kind of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> northband wrote:
> >
[Specifications]
> > I am trying to have the fastest page loads, averaging 100 items per
> > result page. I have read about using Apache's mod_python so I could
> > use PSP. Any help or tips are appreciated.
>
> So if I'm reading this correctly: y
bruce wrote:
>
> i'min a situation where i might need to upgrade python. i have the current
> version of python for FC3. i might need to have the version for FC4. i built
> the version that's on FC4 from the python source RPM.
In principle this is a good idea, since you're aiming to manage your
in
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
> To make a long story short, my opinion is that the only sensible thing
> to do with Windows is to wipe it out and install an OS instead.
If you're convinced you won't be running Windows, why deal with the
problem so late in the game? Instead, order a system from a ve
Cliff Wells wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> > Another one is that it seems (here I go again :) that there is something
> > like a marriage between Python and PostgreSQL (or in other words, that
> > Python fans that develop web apps have a tendency to favor Postg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Any specific reasons to go for psycopg instead of PyGreSQL?
I can't really comment about PyGreSQL: due to the unavailability of
PyGreSQL packages for my system (and a long pause in its development
which suggested that it may not be the most appropriate choice) I
starte
Cameron Laird wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >Hiding source code is incompatible with Open Source software. You can hide
> >code, or be Open Source, but not both.
[...]
> I also disagree with your characterization of Open Source.
I don't know which part of the open source movement would toler
Fuzzyman wrote:
> Bayazee wrote:
> > can we hide a python code ?
> > if i want to write a commercial software can i hide my source code from
> > users access ?
> > we can conver it to pyc but this file can decompiled ... so ...!!
[...]
> You can distribute the compiled byte-code files (*.pyc) whi
Fuzzyman wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
[Skype paper]
> > I'd recommend an
> > upgrade to any business plan which relies on obfuscation to prevent
> > "unauthorised" use or modification. Indeed, I'd recommend that any such
> > entrepreneur think
Fuzzyman wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Fuzzyman wrote:
> >
> > > I never understand the knee-jerk reaction on this mailing list to
> > > answer people who ask this question by telling them they don't really
> > > want to do it...
Note yo
Ben Sizer wrote:
>
> It's worth remembering that there is a massive amount of software that
> has nothing to do with 'infrastructure', that won't need to be
> maintained, or upgraded. Examples include most retail software for the
> home or small office, and most entertainment software. Developers o
Ben Sizer wrote:
>
> Imagine if you were the single-person developer of a small application
> that did something quite innovative, and charged a small fee for your
> product. Now imagine you were practically forced to make your algorithm
> obvious - a couple of months later, Microsoft bring out a f
Ben Sizer wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Ben Sizer wrote:
> > >
> > > Imagine if you were the single-person developer of a small application
> > > that did something quite innovative, and charged a small fee for your
> > > product. Now imagine you w
Ben Sizer wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > Successful software businesses are not merely founded on the process of
> > having ideas and implementing them - they might also need to be
> > effective at delivering those ideas and going through the whole process
> > agai
Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > The current beta version of Python is 2.5 . How can a Python programmer
> > > minimize the number of changes that will be needed to run his code in
> > > Python 3000?
> >
> > by ignoring it, until it exists.
>
> And w
danielx wrote:
>
> But we have only considered the economics of such a decision. Even if
> there is no market value to a work, a person has an understandable
> desire to exercise the rights of ownership over a work, given the
> amount of personal investment one makes in producing it.
There are oth
John Salerno wrote:
> I did a little experimentation with MySQL, and yesterday I was reading
> up on SQLite. Since they both use the SQL language, does this mean that
> the queries you write will be the same for both modules?
They should be, but database system producers tend to enjoy varying the
danielx wrote:
>
[The suggestion that works apparently given away unconditionally become
part of common culture.]
> Extremely interesting point! This should really motivate people to
> answer the question I posed earlier: Does an author of software forfeit
> his rights to the code if he shares hi
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> emrahayanoglu wrote:
> >
> > Now i want to listen all of you. What do you want in that web
> > framework(Easy use of Database, Easy use of XML, GUI Designer, etc...)?
>
> Don't think that yet another Python web framework is really needed.
Why not? I know that some
Tim Roberts wrote:
>
> Consider Ruby. If someone asks, "I'd like to do a web site with Ruby, what
> should I use?", the answer comes back loud, clear, and unanimous: Ruby on
> Rails.
I actually believe that people in most buzzword shortlist situations
see Rails as being the name in the list of ca
Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> I disagree. Even if most of the frameworks end up being nothing more
> than research artifacts, the fact is they embody research. Without
> research the Python web framework space will be forever relegated to
> runner-up (and probably has-been at some point).
It's perhaps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Yes it is. But of course you can't sat that "Python is faster than
> >> C++".
>
> Harald> Of course not. Python is faster then assembler. Proofed @
> Harald> EuroPython 2006 in CERN, near the LHC Beta, in the same room
> Harald> many Nobel laurates gave the
Giovanni Bajo wrote:
>
> The current request is: "please, readers of python-dev, setup a team of 6-10
> people to handle roundup or we'll go to a non-free software for bug
> tracking".
Actually, it would appear that the request goes out to
comp.lang.python/python-list as well (ie. the ungrateful p
EP wrote:
>
[Client-only application with shared storage and concurrent access]
> Can I get there with MySQL? Or do I need to pair a pure python
> approach (including the database) with py2exe? Has anyone achieved
> this with a db framework like Dabo? Or is there another, entirely
> different
Ian Bicking wrote:
>
> It handles some other kinds of repositories now (bzr, I think?). From
> what I understand fully abstracting out the repository format seems to
> still be a work in progress, but it is in progress and you can write
> repository plugins right now.
That covers Trac, but other
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>
> For whatever reason, the SF bug tracker is often down, or not
> responding. I'm uncertain why that is, but it's a matter of
> fact that this was one of the driving forces in moving away
> from SF (so it is a real problem).
As I asked before, did anyone look into asking l
Tim Roberts wrote:
>
> Although it might be mirrored on a web site somewhere, this is a Usenet
> newsgroup. It is impossible to "close" a thread. The concept simply does
> not exist.
Apparently, the fashionable approach to "closing a thread" is to post a
critique of thread contributors to one's
Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> When SF is down, people sometimes send tracker items to
> the pydev list instead, when means someone else (who?) has to put in the
> tracker or it gets lost.
According to Harald Armin Massa's PostgreSQL talk at EuroPython, the
PostgreSQL people manage all their bugs via mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am having great problems writing norwegian characters æøå to file
> from a python application. My (simplified) scenario is as follows:
>
> 1. I have a web form where the user can enter his name.
>
> 2. I use the cgi module module to get to the input from the user:
>
Magnus Lycka wrote:
>
> It seems to me that an obvious advantage with either Roundup
> or Trac, is that if the Python project used it, the Python
> project would have a significant impact on how this product
> developed. Even if the Jira people seem eager to please us,
> I'm pretty convinced that i
A.M. Kuchling wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 06:36:30 -0700,
> Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ... Meanwhile, despite the python.org codebase presumably running
> > various commercial sites, ...
>
> Nothing should have given you this impression! python.org'
Edward Diener No Spam wrote:
>
> In the typical RAD development environment, a particular component model
> allows one to drop components, which are classes corresponding to a
> particular inner representation which tells the development environment
> what are the "properties" and "events" of that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Edward> My OP was just to query whether a component model existed for
> Edward> Python, like JavaBeans for Java or .Net for C#, C++/CLI
> Edward> etc.
>
> For those of us who've never used Java, .Net or C++/CLI, a more concrete
> description of what you were after from th
Peter Maas wrote:
> Bruno Desthuilliers schrieb:
> > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> > (snip)
> > Python itself is a RAD tool.
> >
> > +1 QOTW
>
> No, please stop self-assuring, self-pleasing QOTWs!
+1 QOTW! ;-)
[Java, Ruby, JRuby, the hype]
> To prevent this to happen parts of the Pyth
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
>
> > Meanwhile, the Web programming standardisation scene remains
> > stagnant.
>
> Aw, come on. The Python web programming standardisation wars are over, for
> now.
Well, that's just another way of saying that the s
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> >
> > Well, that's just another way of saying that the scene remains
> > stagnant, because I don't see any winners.
>
> one, two, overflow ? or are you saying that the lack of a monopoly means
> market stagnation
Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
>
> > I've never maintained that a monopoly on how Web programming is done
> > would be a good thing. All I've ever tried to understand is why people
> > haven't tried to improve the generic support for Web programmin
Ed Jensen wrote:
> Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > People who bring up stuff about self and indentation are just showing
> > their ignorance
>
> Ouch. That stings.
>
> Python's "indentation determines scope" makes it hard for me to d
Steve Holden wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
>
> > I'm not at the cutting edge here: 20j and 20k are the commands (replace
> > 20 with another suitable amount) which help me jump around in my editor
> > of choice. The other commands which may be more effective just
Joel Rosdahl wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
[PyLint, PyChecker]
> > New kid on the block:
> >
> > PyFlakes http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodPyflakes
> >
> > It doesn't do nearly as much as the other two but doesn't import the
> > modules, so it can be used in places the others can't.
hg wrote:
>
> Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the
> QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to
> understand the business model).
There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more:
http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.u
Heikki Toivonen wrote:
> Paul Boddie wrote:
> > hg wrote:
> >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was
> >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ?
> >
> > Flashbacks to the age of s
Kay Schluehr wrote:
>
> Spreading tiny function definitions all over the code
> may be finally not such a good idea compared with a few generic methods
> that get just called? OO might run out of fashion these days but Python
> is not Java and Pythons OO is pretty lightweight.
I think you've succe
Theerasak Photha skrev:
> On 14 Oct 2006 09:25:00 -0700, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Unlike Java, Python's first class functions and
> > methods are already highly useful for callback-based systems
>
> Curious: how well does the use of
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> Python has a half dozen GUI toolkits, and multiple adapters for
> databases (some don't even follow DB-API2 specs). All independently
> written. So no, you are not going to find, say, a grid widget that
> automatically links to a database table/view/cursor, with bi-dir
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