* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Grant Edwards:
On 2010-01-15, Steve Holden wrote:
I will, however, observe that your definition of a square wave is
what I
would have to call a "'square' wave" (and would prefer to call
* Alf P. Steinbach:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Grant Edwards:
On 2010-01-15, Steve Holden wrote:
I will, however, observe that your definition of a square wave is
what I
would have to call a "'square' wave" (and
* Alf P. Steinbach:
Just as a contribution, ...
The original code I posted was only written for Python 3.1.1 (because the code
was for my writings which assumes 3.x). In the simple_sound module this caused a
deprecation warning with 2.x. And the example program didn't work with 2.x.
* Gabriel Genellina:
En Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:55:11 -0300, Steven D'Aprano
escribió:
I have a series of subclasses that inherit methods from a base class, but
I'd like them to have their own individual docstrings. The obvious
solution (other than copy-and-paste) is this:
class Base(object):
* Jive Dadson:
Okay, with your help I've figured it out. Instructions are below, but
read the caveat by Ben Fenny in this thread. All this stuff is good for
one default version of Python only. The PYTHONPATH described below, for
example, cannot specify a version number. Yes, that's a pain i
* Rajat:
Hi,
I'm using threading module in Python 2.6.4. I'm using thread's join()
method.
On the new thread I'm running a function which returns a code at the
end. Is there a way I access that code in the parent thread after
thread finishes? Simply, does join() could get me that code?
join()
* Dr. Benjamin David Clarke:
I currently have a program that reads in values for an OptionMenu from
a text file. I also have an option to add a line to that text file
which corresponds to a new value for that OptionMenu. How can I make
that OptionMenu update its values based on that text file wit
* Gerald Britton:
Yesterday I stumbled across some old code in a project I was working
on. It does something like this:
mystring = '\n'.join( [ line for line in lines if ] )
where "lines" is a simple list of strings. I realized that the code
had been written before you could put a list compr
* Brian D:
Here's a simple named group matching pattern:
s = "1,2,3"
p = re.compile(r"(?P\d),(?P\d),(?P\d)")
m = re.match(p, s)
m
<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x011BE610>
print m.groups()
('1', '2', '3')
Is it possible to call the
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:20:42 -0500, Gerald Britton wrote:
That's surprising. I wouldn't implement it that way at all. I'd use a
dynamically-expanding buffer as I suggested. That way you get a single
pass and don't have to calculate anything before you begin. In the best
ca
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:25:22 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:20:42 -0500, Gerald Britton wrote:
That's surprising. I wouldn't implement it that way at all. I'd use a
dynamically-expanding buffer as I sugge
* Robert P. J. Day:
still working my way through "dive into python 3" and i've already
been asked to give a newbie tutorial on it -- blind leading the blind,
as it were. that should be hilarious.
i'll be using python 3 and it occurred to me that it would be
educatio
* Alf P. Steinbach:
* Robert P. J. Day:
still working my way through "dive into python 3" and i've already
been asked to give a newbie tutorial on it -- blind leading the blind,
as it were. that should be hilarious.
i'll be using python 3 and it occurred to me that it
* Mark Dickinson:
On Jan 20, 7:36 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have a byte string (Python 2.x string), e.g.:
s = "g%$f yg\n1\05"
assert len(s) == 10
I wish to convert it to a long integer, treating it as base-256.
By the way, are you willing to divulge what you're using this
functionality f
* Martin Drautzburg:
Hello all,
When passing parameters to a function, you sometimes need a paramter
which can only assume certain values, e.g.
def move (direction):
...
If direction can only be "up", "down", "left" or "right", you can solve
this by passing strings, but
hat python
provides by default.
Best regards,
Javier
2010/1/21 Alf P. Steinbach :
* Martin Drautzburg:
Hello all,
When passing parameters to a function, you sometimes need a paramter
which can only assume certain values, e.g.
def move (direction):
...
If direction can o
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to be able to call move(up)
- having the "up" symbol only in the context of the function call
Short answer is, you can't do it.
On the contrary, it's not difficult to do.
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 09:30:
* Martin Drautzburg:
- to be able to call move(up)
- having the "up" symbol only in the context of the function call
So it should look something like this
... magic, magic ...
move(up)
... unmagic, unmagic ..
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 11:38:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to be able to call move(up)
- having the "up" symbol only in the context of the function
call
Short answer is,
* Gnarlodious:
On Jan 20, 10:35 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
That's the wrong way to handle the problem. Named objects are only useful
if you know the name of the object when writing the code. Otherwise, how
do you know what name to use in the code?
Thank you for the help. I am gathering the na
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 21, 2:38 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to be able to call move(up)
- having the "up" symbol only in the context of the function c
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 12:58, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 11:38:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to be able to call move(up)
- having the "up" symbol o
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 19:48, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 12:58, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 11:38:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 20:01, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 19:48, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Diez B. Roggisch:
Am 21.01.10 12:58, schrieb Alf P. Steinbach:
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 11:38:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 21, 10:46 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 21, 2:38 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* Carl Banks:
On Jan 20, 11:43 pm, Martin Drautzburg
[snip]
What I am really looking for is a way
- to be able to call move(up)
* michael.coll-ba...@verizonwireless.com:
From: noydb
If one has a floating number as a string, is there a spiffy way to
round that string-number UP to the nearest 100?
XstrNmbr = 3579.127893 -- would want to round that to 3600.
What's wrong with round? round( XstrNmbr, -2 ) seems to d
* noydb:
Sorry, although what I really need is the string-number rounded UP
every time. So if the number is 3890.32, it needs to go to 3900; if
the number is 3811.345, it needs to go to 3900 also.
So, Florian's answer works.
You might also consider
-100*(-3579.127893//100)
:-)
Which avoi
* Martin Drautzburg:
Thanks for all the answers. Let me summarize
(1) I fail to see the relevance of
>>> def move( direction ):
... print( "move " + str( direction ) )
...
>>> move( "up" )
move up
not only in the context of my question. And I don't see an abuse of the
language either. May
* Stefan Behnel:
Alf P. Steinbach, 21.01.2010 20:24:
Do you understand how bad that makes you look?
I think the right thing to say at this point is "don't feed the troll".
I find it amazing that you continue this kind of ad hominem attack. You leave it
open who you regard a
* Martin Drautzburg:
Here is a complete expample using a decorator, still a bit noisy
def move(aDirection):
print "moving " + aDirection
#Here comes the decorator
def scope(aDict):
def save(locals):
"""Set symbols in locals and remember their original state"""
setSymbols
* Steven D'Aprano -> Alf P. Steinbach:
No, you got it spot on. Not to discourage you, but you're at least the
third person who pointed this out in this thread.
I get the impression that there's some message traffic that I don't see, perhaps
on the mailing list, s
* Steven D'Aprano:
One implementation-specific trick is that modifying locals does actually
work inside a class definition (at least in Python 2.5):
class Foo(object):
... x = 1
... print locals()
... locals()['x'] = 2
...
{'x': 1, '__module__': '__main__'}
Foo.x
2
But it doe
* Wolfgang Rohdewald:
On Friday 22 January 2010, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
I get the impression that there's some message traffic that I don't
see
For example, the recent thread "Covert number into string" started
with a reply in my newreader, using EternalSeptember&#
* Aahz:
In article ,
Duncan Booth wrote:
That seems overkill. This does pretty much the same thing:
@(C:\Python26\Python -x %~f0 %* || pause) && goto:EOF
import sys
print sys.version
# raise RuntimeError # uncomment to trigger the 'pause'
What version of Wi
* Steve Howell:
On Jan 22, 7:09 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
In article
<3ac173bd-4124-434d-b726-0b9baaeec...@36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
Steve Howell wrote:
In my case I'm not really concerned about giving the memory back right
away, it's more about keeping my code simple. Once I'm done with an
* Steve Howell:
On Jan 23, 12:13 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
Challenge yes, mock no.
Part of writing good basic data structures is not adding needless
complication from featuritis and not penalizing 99.99% of access to
satify a .01% need better satisfied another way.
I would like to challenge yo
* Steve Howell:
On Jan 23, 12:32 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* Steve Howell:
On Jan 23, 12:13 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
Challenge yes, mock no.
Part of writing good basic data structures is not adding needless
complication from featuritis and not penalizing 99.99% of access to
sa
* ceciliasei...@gmx.de:
As you were talking about list.pop()...
Is anyone able to reproduce the following and explain why this happens
by chance? (Using 3.1.1)
l1 = ["ready", "steady", "go"]
l2 = ["one", "two", "tree"]
l3 = ["lift off"]
for w in l1:
print(l1.pop()) #prints only "go stead
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:57:04 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
But it would IMHO have been better if it wasn't called "list", which
brings in the wrong associations for someone used to other languages.
+1.
Whe
* thinke365:
jesus, now i fixed it, using odd lambda sort.
l.sort(lambda x,y: cmp(len(x), len(y)))
print l
This uses 'cmp'. Your earlier code, quoted below, used '>'.
BUT I AM STILL CONFUSED WHY COSTOMIZED SORT FAILED TO SORT AS IT IS
PROGRAMMER!
Please don't shout.
thinke365 wrote:
i
* Dave Angel:
kj wrote:
Before I go off to re-invent a thoroughly invented wheel, I thought
I'd ask around for some existing module for computing binomial
coefficient, hypergeometric coefficients, and other factorial-based
combinatorial indices. I'm looking for something that can handle
fairly
* Robert P. J. Day:
once again, probably a trivial question but i googled and didn't
get an obvious solution. how to list the attributes of a *class*?
eg., i was playing with dicts and noticed that the type returned by
the keys() method was "dict_keys". so i'm n
* Robert P. J. Day:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Robert P. J. Day:
once again, probably a trivial question but i googled and didn't
get an obvious solution. how to list the attributes of a *class*?
eg., i was playing with dicts and noticed that the type returned b
* Gabriel Genellina:
En Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:16:50 -0300, Alf P. Steinbach
escribió:
I get the impression that there's some message traffic that I don't
see, perhaps on the mailing list, since (a) I haven't seen that about
'locals' pointed out by anyone else in this
Just top-posting for clarity. :-)
up = "UP"
left= "LEFT"
down= "DOWN"
right = "RIGHT"
# This code is not guaranteed to work by the language specification.
# But it is one way to do the solution I presented earlier in the thread.
import sys
def import_from( module_name ):
* Helene Martin:
I'm almost sure that there's no way for a turtle to know anything
about the background. That's an unfortunate limitation!
The "background" for the turtle is just a Tkinter canvas. So yes, it's
technically possible to inspect things there, since there is method to obtain
the
* News123:
Hi,
I'd like to start .pyo files under windows with a double click.
(I know I can just write a .bat wrapper, but somehow it would be more
fun to start with a direct double click)
Currently this works if the file does not import any other .pyo file.
The problem is, that a doblecl
* siddu:
Hi,
except not able to caught the TypeError exception occured in the below
code
log.info("refer",ret) in the try block
throws a TypeError which is not caught .
Also sometimes process is getting hanged.
--
* AlexM:
On Jan 25, 2:07 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/25/2010 2:05 PM, Alexander Moibenko wrote:
I have a simple question to which I could not find an answer.
Because it has no finite answer
What is the total maximal size of list including size of its elements?
In theory, unbounded. In pra
* Ethan Furman:
Steve Howell wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:57:04 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
So, we're right back to my statement earlier in this thread that the
docs are deficient in that they describe behavior with no hint about
cost. Given that, it should be no surprise that users make incorrect
* Hellmut Weber:
consider the following piece of code, please
- -
def f(param):
nameOfParam = ???
# here I want to access the name of the variable
# which was given as parameter to the function
print nameOfParam, param
return
if __name__ == __main__:
a = 1
f(a)
b = '
* Torsten Mohr:
Hello,
i try to derive a class from array.array:
import array
class Abc(array.array):
def __init__(self, a, b):
array.array.__init__(self, 'B')
self.a = a
self.b = b
a = Abc(4, 5)
print a
print a.a
I get an error for "a = Abc(4, 5)", seems the p
* Alf P. Steinbach:
* Torsten Mohr:
Hello,
i try to derive a class from array.array:
import array
class Abc(array.array):
def __init__(self, a, b):
array.array.__init__(self, 'B')
self.a = a
self.b = b
a = Abc(4, 5)
print a
print a.a
I get an er
* Torsten Mohr:
thanks a lot for your hint, it works fine.
I get an error for "a = Abc(4, 5)", seems the parameters are
forwarded to array's __init__ as they are.
No, with CPython they're forwarded to __new__.
Not sure if i understand this correctly, if i derive from other
classes (like wxp
I'm responding to the original message by Xah Lee, which is not carried by my
Usenet provider.
* Alan Harris-Reid:
Xah Lee wrote:
Some thoughts about Python 3 Adoption.
Xah Lee, 2010-01-26
Some notes of Wikipedia readings related to Python.
Unladen Swallow, a new project from Google. It is
* alex23:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility. They forgot
Ronald Reagan's old maxim: if it don't need fixin', don't fix it.
[...]
Probably there must have been some rationale, but to put it bluntly removi
* Steve Holden:
[Off-list]
alex23 wrote:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility. They forgot
Ronald Reagan's old maxim: if it don't need fixin', don't fix it.
[...]
Probably there must have been some ra
* John Bokma:
"Alf P. Steinbach" writes:
Please don't post more noise and ad hominem attacks to the group,
Steve.
Funny that you talk about noise while replying yourself to noise. Xah
Lee is just a pathetic spammer. He's not going to reply in this
thread. He just shits
* rantingrick:
On Jan 26, 9:38 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/26/2010 7:54 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Someone Something wrote:
Hello,
I need a python library that makes drawing lines and plotting points (these
two things are the only things I need to do) easy. Or,
* rantingrick:
On Jan 26, 10:52 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* rantingrick:
On Jan 26, 9:38 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 1/26/2010 7:54 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Someone Something wrote:
Hello,
I need a python library that makes drawing
* Daniel Fetchinson:
* Print is now a function. Great, much improvement.
Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility.
What incompatibility are you exactly talking about?
Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Aug 21 2009, 12:23:57)
[GCC 4.4.1 20090818 (Red Hat 4.4.1-6)] on linux2
* Daniel Fetchinson:
* Print is now a function. Great, much improvement.
Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility.
What incompatibility are you exactly talking about?
Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Aug 21 2009, 12:23:57)
[GCC 4.4.1 20090818 (Red Hat 4.4.1-6)] on linux2
* Daniel Fetchinson:
* Print is now a function. Great, much improvement.
Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility.
What incompatibility are you exactly talking about?
Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Aug 21 2009, 12:23:57)
[GCC 4.4.1 20090818 (Red Hat 4.4.1-6)] on linux2
T
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[...]
The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for
writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the
language. And I see no good reason for it: print can't really do more,
or less, or more conveniently (r
* Adam Tauno Williams:
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 18:52 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* Steve Holden:
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[...]
The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for
writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the
language. And I see no
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:29:25 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for
writing code from scratch.
Correct. It's a trivial problem, but still a problem.
It's also a problem wrt. learning the l
* Anthony Tolle:
On Jan 28, 7:12 am, Lie Ryan wrote:
In the code:
"""
f = open('input.txt', 'r+')
for line in f:
s = line.replace('python', 'PYTHON')
# f.tell()
f.write(s)
"""
[snip]
My guess is that there are a few possible problems:
1) In this case, writing to file opened with
* evilweasel:
Hi folks,
I am a newbie to python, and I would be grateful if someone could
point out the mistake in my program. Basically, I have a huge text
file similar to the format below:
AGACTCGAGTGCGCGGA 0
AGATAAGCTAATTAAGCTACTGG 0
AGATAAGCTAATTAAGCTACTGGGTT 1
A
* kiwanuka:
On Jan 28, 12:29 pm, kiwanuka wrote:
Hi all,
I wonder if anyone knows any alternative function in pylab (or
otherwise) that could be used to save an image. My problem is as
follows:
---
from pylab import *
...
figure(1)
fig1 = gca()
figure(2)
fig2 = gca()
figure(3)
fi
* Roy Smith:
In article ,
Mitchell L Model wrote:
I use the sep and end keywords all the time.
What are 'sep' and 'end'? I'm looking in
http://docs.python.org/3.1/genindex-all.html and don't see those mentioned
at all. Am I just looking in the wrong place?
>>> print( print.__doc__ )
* Lie Ryan:
On 01/28/10 20:12, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>> import builtins
>>>
>>> org_print = print
>>> builtins.print = 666
>>>
>>> print( "trallala" )
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line
* Yingjie Lan:
[snip]
def speed(float dist, float time):
return dist/time
then the compiler would generate code to first check parameter types
(or even do some casts if appropriate, say cast an int into float) in
the beginning of this function. and the rest of the function would then
be com
* Duncan Booth:
"Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
I'm not sure I like your idea of introducing static typing to increase
speed, but it could be done without introducing new syntax simply by
defining a special meaning to such annotation expressions that are
'type' invocations,
* Steve Holden:
While I am fully aware that premature optimization, etc., but I cannot
resist an appeal to efficiency if it finally kills off this idea that
"they took 'cmp()' away" is a bad thing.
Passing a cmp= argument to sort provides the interpreter with a function
that will be called eac
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:10:01 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>> L = ["æ", "ø", "å"] # This is in SORTED ORDER in Norwegian L
[...]
>>> L.sort( key = locale.strxfrm )
>>> L
['å', 'æ
* peskar.m...@hotmail.com:
21 days has passed and still noone is willing to help :-(
Did you see the reply from Marco Nawin?
If you don't see that reply, dated (a bit less than) 2 hours after your original
posting on the 9th, I can repost it here.
If you have any follow-up questions just po
* Dan Brown:
Why does extending a list with the empty list result in None? It
seems very counterintuitive to me, at least --- I expected ['a'].extend
([]) to result in ['a'], not None.
It does.
'extend' is an operation that /modifies/ the array.
It just returns None as its expression result,
* marc magrans de abril:
Dear colleagues,
I was doing a small program to classify log files for a cluster of
PCs, I just wanted to simplify a quite repetitive task in order to
find errors and so.
My first naive implementation was something like:
patterns = []
while(logs):
patter
* John Bokma:
MRAB writes:
The PEP has a .pyr directory for each .py file:
foo.py
foo.pyr/
f2b30a0d.pyc # Python 2.5
f2d10a0d.pyc # Python 2.6
f2d10a0d.pyo # Python 2.6 -O
f2d20a0d.pyc # Python 2.6 -U
0c4f0a0d.pyc # Python 3.1
wow: so much for
* elsa:
Thanks for the tips r.e random.ranint(). This improved matters
somewhat, however my program is still too slow. If anyone has any
further tips on how to speed it up, they would be much appreciated!
So, I'm calling evolve(L,limit) from the interactive prompt. L is
initally [[100],['NA']].
* Alf P. Steinbach:
* elsa:
Thanks for the tips r.e random.ranint(). This improved matters
somewhat, however my program is still too slow. If anyone has any
further tips on how to speed it up, they would be much appreciated!
So, I'm calling evolve(L,limit) from the interactive prompt.
* Steven D'Aprano:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:40:42 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote:
Ben Finney writes:
0c4f0a0d.pyc # Python 3.1
Mapping magic numbers to versions is infeasible and will be incomplete:
Any mapping that exists in (say) Python 3.1 can't know in advance what
the magic number will be fo
Nash wrote:
If I rephrase the question: In an absense of steady Python Developers;
can there be a viable strategy involving training? Or will it be much
safer going with an already common developer pool.
Please note that my goal is not to promote python but to make a sound
business decision. Us
Stef Mientki wrote:
What you want is pretty hard as long as the data source is not centrally
protected with a password. That is you have a database on a server you
only access, there is a central db but access to it is restricted to the
admin, everybody else has a unique login name and a 'per
Nash wrote:
I think normal market rules will apply to Pakistan too, if your desired
trade has not the quantity you wish, the price per item should get
higher. Net result should be that more quantity will be available due to
increased interest.
--
MPH
http://blog.dcuktec.com
'If consumed, bes
Vladimir Ignatov wrote:
Ha-ha-ha (sorry, can't resist).
Here is at Moscow/Russia I have had a tought time finding a
Python-related programming job. Positions both very rare (comparing
with Java/C++ - maybe 1/100) and not pays well. And about 99% of them
are web+Django.
To who/what are you reply
Hi all.
I'm just learning Python from scratch, on my own. Apologies if this question is
too newbie... Or perhaps answered in some FAQ (where?).
Here's my original code for simple starter program, using the ActivePython
implementation in Windows XP Prof, Python version is 2.6:
import Tkint
* Rhodri James:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:42:07 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach
wrote:
[snip]
canvas.create_oval( bbox, fill = "PeachPuff" )
[snip]
It worked nicely, and I thought this code was fairly perfect until I
started studying the language reference.
It seems that formally co
[Cross-posted comp.programming and comp.lang.python]
Hi.
I may finally have found the perfect language for a practically oriented
introductory book on programming, namely Python.
C++ was way too complex for the novice, JScript and C# suffered from too
fast-changing specifications and runtime
* Chris Rebert:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
[Cross-posted comp.programming and comp.lang.python]
Hi.
I may finally have found the perfect language for a practically oriented
introductory book on programming, namely Python.
C++ was way too complex for the novice
* tm:
On 28 Okt., 07:52, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[Cross-posted comp.programming and comp.lang.python]
Looking at your topic '(Python in Windows)', without taking a
glimpse at your actual introduction, I have the following to say:
I think it is not a good idea to teac
Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
* tm:
On 28 Okt., 07:52, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[Cross-posted comp.programming and comp.lang.python]
Looking at your topic '(Python in Windows)', without taking a
glimpse at your actual introduction, I have the following to say:
I think it i
* eb303:
On Oct 28, 7:52 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[snip]
But since I don't know much Python -- I'm *learning* Python as I write -- I know
that there's a significant chance of communicating misconceptions, non-idiomatic
ways to do things, bad conventions, etc.,
* eb303:
On Oct 28, 10:48 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* eb303:
On Oct 28, 7:52 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[snip]
But since I don't know much Python -- I'm *learning* Python as I write -- I know
that there's a significant chance of communicating misco
* Jon Clements:
On 28 Oct, 08:58, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[snip]
Without reference to an OS you can't address any of the issues that a beginner
has to grapple with, including most importantly tool usage, without which it's
not even possible to get started, but also, very
* Jon Clements:
Inline reply:
On 28 Oct, 11:49, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
* Jon Clements:
On 28 Oct, 08:58, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote:
[snip]
Without reference to an OS you can't address any of the issues that a beginner
has to grapple with, including most import
* Dann Corbit:
In article , al...@start.no
Unfortunately Google docs doesn't display the nice table of contents in each
document, but here's the public view of ch 1 (complete) and ch 2 (about one
third completed, I've not yet settled on a title so it's just chapter "asd"):
http://previ
Hi.
Or, to whomever this concerns... ;-)
I thought it would be prudent to install 3.1.1 for Windows from scratch, so I
uninstalled everything (CPython, ActivePython), and then installed Python 3.1.1.
In the "Advanced" option I told the installer to compile packages.
The compiler then found
* Alf P. Steinbach:
Hi.
Or, to whomever this concerns... ;-)
I thought it would be prudent to install 3.1.1 for Windows from scratch,
so I uninstalled everything (CPython, ActivePython), and then installed
Python 3.1.1.
In the "Advanced" option I told the installer to compil
* Alf P. Steinbach:
* Alf P. Steinbach:
Hi.
Or, to whomever this concerns... ;-)
I thought it would be prudent to install 3.1.1 for Windows from
scratch, so I uninstalled everything (CPython, ActivePython), and then
installed Python 3.1.1.
In the "Advanced" option I told the in
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