Re: Posts from gmane no longer allowed?

2021-09-26 Thread Ned Deily
On 9/26/21 20:38, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2021-09-26, Ethan Furman wrote: On 9/26/21 10:34 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2021-09-26, Ethan Furman wrote: I am unaware of a change in the newsgroup <--> mailing list policy, and other newsgroup posts were coming through last week (it's been a li

{RELEASE] Python 3.6.0a4 is now available

2016-08-15 Thread Ned Deily
t the release schedule can be found here: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/ --Ned -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0b1 is now available

2016-09-12 Thread Ned Deily
v/peps/pep-0494/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting IDLE to use correct Tcl/Tk on MacOSX 10.6?

2016-09-29 Thread Ned Deily
On 2016-09-27 18:47, Gregory Ewing wrote: > I don't normally use IDLE, but I had occasion to use it > on MacOSX 10.6 to answer someone's question, and of course > it didn't work properly due to Apple's broken Tcl/Tk. > > I followed the advice to install ActiveState Tcl 8.5.18.0, > but my Python st

Re: Copying a compiled Python from one system to another

2016-10-06 Thread Ned Deily
On 2016-10-02 00:25, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 01:58 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Hmm, I've possibly missed something here, which may indicate a >> problem. Why can't your existing machines build? Is it because they >> have too-old versions of tools, and if so, which? > Yes, this.

Re: Copying a compiled Python from one system to another

2016-10-06 Thread Ned Deily
On 2016-10-06 11:04, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 01:36 am, Ned Deily wrote: >> On 2016-10-02 00:25, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 01:58 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>> Hmm, I've possibly missed something here, which may ind

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0b2 is now available

2016-10-10 Thread Ned Deily
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[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0b3 is now available

2016-10-31 Thread Ned Deily
and its use is not recommended for production environments The next pre-release of Python 3.6 will be 3.6.0b4, currently scheduled for 2016-11-21. More information about the release schedule can be found here: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0b4 is now available

2016-11-21 Thread Ned Deily
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[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0rc1 is now available

2016-12-06 Thread Ned Deily
n be found here: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0rc2 is now available

2016-12-16 Thread Ned Deily
python.org/downloads/release/python-360rc2/ Note that 3.6.0rc2 is still a preview release and thus its use is not recommended for production environments. More information about the release schedule can be found here: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0494/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- []

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0 is released!

2016-12-23 Thread Ned Deily
n. More at: https://www.python.org/psf-landing/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.5rc1 is now available for testing

2018-03-13 Thread Ned Deily
/release/python-365rc1/ Attention macOS users: as of 3.6.5rc1, there is a new additional installer variant for macOS 10.9+ that includes a built-in version of Tcl/Tk 8.6. This variant is expected to become the default variant in future releases. Check it out! -- Ned Deily n...@python.org

Re: urllib.request.urlopen fails with https

2018-03-15 Thread Ned Deily
On 2018-03-14 18:04, Irv Kalb wrote: > File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/urllib/request.py", > line 1320, in do_open > raise URLError(err) > urllib.error.URLError: certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:749)> If you are using Python 3.6 for macOS from a py

Re: macOS specific - reading calendar information

2018-03-15 Thread Ned Deily
On 2018-03-15 03:58, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 15.03.18 um 08:32 schrieb Jan Erik Moström: >> I would like to read what calendar events I have on a range of days. I >> would like to get the data from whatever storage Calendar use, in my >> personal case I sync to iCloud. [...] > The native s

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.5 is now available

2018-03-28 Thread Ned Deily
https://www.python.org/psf/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.0b3 is now available for testing

2018-03-29 Thread Ned Deily
ore information about the release schedule can be found here: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0537/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.0b4, final 3.7 beta, now available for testing

2018-05-02 Thread Ned Deily
out! The next preview release will be the release candidate and is planned for 2018-05-21 followed by the official release of 3.7.0, planned for 2018-06-15. You can find Python 3.7.0b4 and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-370b4/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.0b5 bonus beta!

2018-05-30 Thread Ned Deily
06-11, followed by the official release of 3.7.0, now planned for 2018-06-27. You can find Python 3.7.0b5 and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-370b5/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.0rc1 and 3.6.6rc1 are now available

2018-06-12 Thread Ned Deily
://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-366rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.7.0 is now available! (and so is 3.6.6)

2018-06-27 Thread Ned Deily
the Python Software Foundation. https://www.python.org/psf/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.1rc1 and 3.6.7rc1 now available for testing

2018-09-26 Thread Ned Deily
-371rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-367rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.1rc2 and 3.6.7rc2 now available for testing

2018-10-13 Thread Ned Deily
/python-371rc2/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-367rc2/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.1 and 3.6.7 are now available

2018-10-20 Thread Ned Deily
Python Development and these releases possible! Please consider supporting our efforts by volunteering yourself or through organization contributions to the Python Software Foundation. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.6.0a1 is now available

2016-05-17 Thread Ned Deily
360a1/ The next release of Python 3.6 will be 3.6.0a2, currently scheduled for 2016-06-13. Enjoy! --Ned -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.6.0a2 is now available

2016-06-13 Thread Ned Deily
360a2/ The next release of Python 3.6 will be 3.6.0a3, currently scheduled for 2016-07-11. Enjoy! --Ned -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.0a3 is now available

2016-07-11 Thread Ned Deily
360a3/ The next release of Python 3.6 will be 3.6.0a4, currently scheduled for 2016-08-15. --Ned -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tcl/Tk for Python 3.6.0a3 on Os X 10.9.5

2016-08-02 Thread Ned Deily
On 2016-08-02 15:08, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 8/2/2016 4:21 AM, munozvvale...@gmail.com wrote: >> I am new to the programming world but I need to learn this program >> for a research class that I am taking. I have downloaded Python >> 3.6.0a3 on a Mac 10.9.5 and realized that I also need to download

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.2rc1 and 3.6.8rc1 now available for testing

2018-12-11 Thread Ned Deily
releases and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-372rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-368rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.2 and 3.6.8 are now available

2018-12-24 Thread Ned Deily
#python-3-7-2-final https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/changelog.html#python-3-6-8-final https://www.python.org/psf/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.3rc1 is now available for testing.

2019-03-12 Thread Ned Deily
recommended for production environments. You can find the release files, a link to the changelog, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-373rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.3 is now available

2019-03-25 Thread Ned Deily
possible! Please consider supporting our efforts by volunteering yourself or through organization contributions to the Python Software Foundation. https://docs.python.org/3.7/whatsnew/3.7.html https://docs.python.org/3.7/whatsnew/changelog.html#python-3-7-3-final https://www.python.org/psf/ -- Ned

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.4rc1 and 3.6.9rc1 are now available

2019-06-18 Thread Ned Deily
/release/python-374rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-369rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.9 security-fix release is now available

2019-07-02 Thread Ned Deily
can find the release files, a link to the changelog, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-369/ https://www.python.org/downloads/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.4rc2 is now available for testing

2019-07-02 Thread Ned Deily
changelog, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-374rc2/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.4 is now available

2019-07-08 Thread Ned Deily
on.org/3.7/whatsnew/3.7.html Thanks to all of the many volunteers who help make Python Development and these releases possible! Please consider supporting our efforts by volunteering yourself or through organization contributions to the Python Software Foundation: https://www.python.org/psf/ --

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.5rc1 is now available for testing

2019-10-01 Thread Ned Deily
recommended for production environments. You can find the release files, a link to the changelog, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-375rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.5 is now available

2019-10-15 Thread Ned Deily
. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.6rc1 and 3.6.10rc1 are now available for testing

2019-12-11 Thread Ned Deily
Details here: https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-6rc1-and-3-6-10rc1-are-now-available-for-testing/2835 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-376rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3610rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org

Re: Unable to install Flask-Mongoengine

2019-12-15 Thread Ned Deily
On 2019-12-15 03:13, Test Bot wrote: I am unable to install *Flask-Mongoengine* using pip. Here are my specifications 1. *OS* => OSX 10.14.6 2. *Python* => Python 3.8.0 (Working in a virtualenv) 3. *Dependency Manager* => pip(19.3.1), setuptools(42.0.2) 3. *Flask-Mongoengine* => flask-mongoengi

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
Details here: https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7rc1-is-now-available-for-testing/3638 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-377rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:17, Jonathan Goble wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ned Deily wrote: > Details here: > >> https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7rc1-is-now-available-for-testing/3638 >> >> "Assuming no critical problems are found prior to 2020-0

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Python 3.7.7rc1 is now available for testing

2020-03-04 Thread Ned Deily
On Mar 4, 2020, at 23:39, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:05 PM Ned Deily wrote: >> On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:17, Jonathan Goble wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:02 PM Ned Deily wrote: >> > Details here: >> >> https://discuss.python.

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.7 is now available

2020-03-10 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-7-is-now-available/3682 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-377/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.8rc1 and 3.6.11rc1 are now available for testing

2020-06-17 Thread Ned Deily
Details here: https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-8rc1-and-3-6-11rc1-are-now-available-for-testing/4467 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-378rc1/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3611rc1/ -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.8 and 3.6.11 now available - last 3.7.x bugfix release

2020-06-28 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-8-and-3-6-11-now-available-last-3-7-x-bugfix-release/4583 -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Installing Python 3.8.3 with tkinter

2020-07-22 Thread Ned Deily
On 2020-07-22 06:20, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > Trying to install Python 3.8.3 with tkinter I run configure with the > following options > > ./configure --enable-optimizations --with-ssl-default-suites=openssl > --with-openssl=/usr/local --enable-loadable-sqlite-extensions > --with-pydebug --with-tclt

Re: Installing Python 3.8.3 with tkinter

2020-07-23 Thread Ned Deily
On 2020-07-23 00:30, Klaus Jantzen wrote: > On 7/22/20 11:05 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> On 2020-07-22 06:20, Klaus Jantzen wrote: >>> Trying to install Python 3.8.3 with tkinter I run configure with the >>> following options >>> >>> ./configure --enable-op

Re: IDLE 3.8.4 [was 3.8.3] -- bug report

2020-08-03 Thread Ned Deily
On 2020-08-03 15:37, Halvard Tislavoll wrote: > I'am dealing with a bug [...] > Python 3.8.4 (default, Jul 20 2020, 20:20:14) > IDLE 3.8.4 > > I have been using IDLE for many years. But now I can not do it. > > Example: > I write a heading for a python script in my text editor, xed and save as >

Re: python 2.7.x on MacOSX: failed dlopen() on .so's

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
it, suggest starting with a fresh Python source directory just to be sure. - Check the dynamic library dependencies of _struct. On OS X: otool -L /Users/build/python/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/_struct.so For a non-shared build, the only library dependency should be /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib. - M

Re: python 2.7.x on MacOSX: failed dlopen() on .so's

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > There shouldn't be any problems with what you are trying to do. It works for > me with Python 2.7.6 and pycrypto-2.6.1. Some suggestions: > - Avoid --enable-shared on OS X at least initially. There are too many ways > things can go wrong.

Re: python 2.7.x on MacOSX: failed dlopen() on .so's

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
On Nov 13, 2013, at 14:59 , Paul Smith wrote: > Thanks for the response Ned! > > On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:40 -0800, Ned Deily wrote: >> There shouldn't be any problems with what you are trying to do. It >> works for me with Python 2.7.6 and pycrypto-2.6.1. So

Re: How to disable RTLD_NOW for Python 2.7.x dlopen() in Mac OS X Mavericks?

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
estion for you, assuming you want to just try to ignore the error, other than perhaps running an older version of OS X in a VM on 10.8. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python 2.7.x on MacOSX: failed dlopen() on .so's

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
On Nov 13, 2013, at 17:24 , Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 16:00 -0800, Ned Deily wrote: >>> The reason I've set PYTHONHOME is ultimately I need this installation to >>> be relocatable. It's going to be shared across lots of different >>> syst

Re: python 2.7.x on MacOSX: failed dlopen() on .so's

2013-11-14 Thread Ned Deily
variables or add flags or > whatever might be needed. In that case, the python.org installer may not be a good choice. You should be to accomplish what you want by building your own Python. You'll probably find you were getting tripped up by unnecessarily setting environment variables

Re: Odd msg received from list

2013-11-16 Thread Ned Deily
ending password reminders is a standard default of the venerable Mailman mailing list software that powers Python-list and many other mailing lists. You can visit the member options page and change the password and/or disable the automatic reminders: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-

Re: How to install pip for python3 on OS X?

2013-11-19 Thread Ned Deily
ps://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/raw/bootstrap/ez_setup.py python3 ez_setup.py # download and install pip curl -O https://raw.github.com/pypa/pip/master/contrib/get-pip.py python3 get-pip.py # use pip to install python3 -m pip install pyserial # Don't want it? python3 -m pip uninstall pyserial -

Re: tkinter bug on mac maverick python 3.3.3

2013-11-27 Thread Ned Deily
site but the download file is 8.5.15.1). http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed.

2013-12-14 Thread Ned Deily
supported on the many important platforms and does not have the license issues that some other GUI toolkits have had. And because of inertia. Also, Python is not alone in this: Perl and Ruby also have Tk bindings that work the same way, AFAIK. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.3.2 Shell Message

2013-12-29 Thread Ned Deily
mation." You need to install ActiveTcl 8.5 for OS X, currently 8.5.15.0. It's further down on the ActiveTcl download page (http://www.activestate.com/activetcl/downloads). Installing 8.6.1 does not help (it doesn't hurt, either, so you don't need to worry about removing it). --

Re: Fwd: Newcomer Help

2014-02-10 Thread Ned Deily
Applications/Python 3.3 folder and double-click on the IDLE icon. You should not see the "(8.5.7) may be unstable" message. As others have noted, though, you could use another editor and just run python3.3 from a Terminal window command line: /usr/local/bin/python3.3 your_filename_here.py Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-10-27 Thread Ned Deily
e safest approach would be to get the default value of LDFLAGS for this Python instance, append your additional values to it, and pass it back into the setup.py build. You can do that all in one line: LDFLAGS="$(python -c 'import sysconfig;print(sysconfig.get_config_var("LDFLAGS"

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
--allow-shlib-undefined (it seems to be the default in some versions of ld). You could look at and, if necessary, modify Lib/distutils, the part of the Python standard library that builds extension modules from setup.py. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Cyd Haselton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article > > , > > Cyd Haselton wrote: > > [...] > >> I'm building python on an Android device in the KBOX > >> environment...which simulates a Unix

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-11-01 Thread Ned Deily
) but we don't officially support Android so I doubt that will help much. If you haven't already, you might try asking on some Android forums; I know other oddities of building things on Android have been reported. Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-11-01 Thread Ned Deily
There seem to be a number of project that claim to support Python on Android. Perhaps they could be of help. FWIW, the macro is "WITHOUT_COMPLEX": ./configure [...] CPPFLAGS='-DWITHOUT_COMPLEX' and Lib/optparse.py would need to be patched to comment out its use of

Re: Build Question: How to Add -Wl, --option Before Objects In Setup.py?

2014-11-02 Thread Ned Deily
o result in a libpython with no references to sincos. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Idle on Mac issues

2014-11-04 Thread Ned Deily
ere, with > details on the system version, python version, the exact command they > run and the error they get. Good suggestion. Also, it would be a good idea to check the Python bug tracker, bugs.python.org, for existing problem reports and to open new issues if none found. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ssl error with the python mac binary

2014-11-10 Thread Ned Deily
d for early December), I intend to have the Pythons in the python.org OS X installers use their own versions of OpenSSL and thus no longer depend on the now-deprecated system OpenSSL. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ssl error with the python mac binary

2014-11-12 Thread Ned Deily
en you have to be really vigilant that the build never strays from the old SDK and tools, which is not something we claim to support at the moment. The VM approach is quite safe and reliable. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Suds Python 2.4.3 Proxy

2014-11-30 Thread Ned Deily
entation Releases by Version https://www.python.org/doc/versions/ -> Python 2.4.4 https://docs.python.org/release/2.4.4/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ssl error with the python mac binary

2014-12-01 Thread Ned Deily
ere are a lot of other changes that need exposure. The final release installer *will* have the new version of openssl. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Do you like the current design of python.org?

2014-12-11 Thread Ned Deily
Just a gentle reminder that any problems seen with or changes desired to the python.org website need to be documented on its issue tracker at https://github.com/python/pythondotorg/issues/. Key players working on it likely are not aware of discussions here. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org

Re: Matplotlib import error

2015-02-06 Thread Ned Deily
heels for matplotlib and its dependencies, including numpy, and all just work. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Wildly OT: pop-up virtual keyboard for Mac or Linux?

2015-02-10 Thread Ned Deily
; Keyboard on current 10.10 systems). As of OS X 10.7 (I believe), there are also now popup menus that appear when various keys are held down that show accented variants of the character (this is similar to what iOS on the iPhone and iPad provide). Unfortunately, this doesn't work with s

Re: building c extensions with setuptools that are not tied to python installed on build machine

2015-02-11 Thread Ned Deily
hat the C or C++ code is doing, it may not be possible to have one binary wheel that works with different Python instances of the same version. For many simple projects, it does work. You *could* also ask on the PythonMac SIG list. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig --

Re: How to install PIL or PILLOW on OS X Yosemite?

2015-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
ing something like Pillow and all of its dependencies is often just a one-line command. It may take a little while to get used to the quirks of the package manager you choose but, if you are going to use OS X for development with Python or many other languages, that time spent will be repaid many t

Re: 'Lite' Databases (Re: sqlite3 and dates)

2015-02-20 Thread Ned Deily
.sqlite.org/testing.html https://www.sqlite.org/copyright.html -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: 'Lite' Databases (Re: sqlite3 and dates)

2015-02-21 Thread Ned Deily
In article <871tljepea@jester.gateway.pace.com>, Paul Rubin wrote: > Ned Deily writes: > > (though I don't know why anyone would want to fork it). > > Same reason lots of people have forked Postgres. Or you might just want > to customize it. Well, for w

Re: Python shell: Arrow keys not working in PuTTY

2015-02-25 Thread Ned Deily
In article <54ec1360$0$12978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Ned Deily wrote: > > With no --prefix= on ./configure, the default install location is to > > /usr/local, so "make install" would install a link at > > /usr/local

Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.4

2014-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
ed because of its wide support. (BTW, Python 3.4.0 is not released yet; some early alphas of 3.4.0 still provided .bz2 tarballs but the most recent ones, including the current rc1, do not.) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development

2014-02-23 Thread Ned Deily
ash on 10.9 when used interactively. Fixed in the current 2.7.6 and 3.3.4 and 3.4.0rc python.org installers. Also, if you are going to use IDLE or Tkinter with a python.org Python, make sure you have the latest ActiveTcl 8.5.15.0 (actually .1) installed, if possible. http://www.python.org/down

Re: Help father help son / Install Version 2.6 on Mac OSX 10.9

2014-02-24 Thread Ned Deily
/pygame.org/wiki/MacCompile And, in any case, Apple ships OS X 10.9 with copies of both Python 2.7 and 2.6: /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python2.6 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Issue 7503

2014-02-26 Thread Ned Deily
thon.org/issue7503 has not been updated yet and it's now > 18:50. Technical glitch, people only just signing up or what? Thanks for noticing this. I happened to independently see it before reading your post and we've fixed the problem causing the fail and manually posted the d

Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development

2014-03-01 Thread Ned Deily
tirely and, in that case, why use OS X at all? If you don't like Apple's built-in Terminal.app, another option is to use iTerm 2, an open source native alternative that has many more features. http://www.iterm2.com/ It's also available through MacPorts. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Can global variable be passed into Python function?

2014-03-01 Thread Ned Deily
> that and a newsreader - whichever's easier to get to work. Or use one of the multiple interfaces to the group/list provided by gmane.org: nntp, web, or (read-only) rss. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: 3.4rc2 and pip on windows

2014-03-03 Thread Ned Deily
y installers would be able to detect Python version mismatches. Today it is up to the person installing a package to determine that. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Diagnose a segfault in ipython/readline

2014-03-05 Thread Ned Deily
ine 6.3. If you end up believing that there is a Python problem with it, please open an issue on the Python bug tracker. Thanks! http://bugs.python.org -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: NameError: name 'pyver' is not defined

2014-03-06 Thread Ned Deily
gram with Python 2. Try running the script explicitly under Python 2: python2.6 p4convert-cvs.py You may have inadvertently done a "make install" with Python 3.2 that has created a link from "python" to "python3.2". Later versions of Python 3 are a little more careful

Re: NameError: name 'pyver' is not defined

2014-03-06 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > execfile() no long exists in Python 3 so chances are you are trying to > run a Python 3 program with Python 2. Try running the script explicitly > under Python 2: Er, "trying to run a Python 2 program with Python 3", of course. -- Ned D

Re: why does "python --version" write to standard error?

2014-03-07 Thread Ned Deily
In article <20140307075744.ga43...@cskk.homeip.net>, Cameron Simpson wrote: > This seems to write the python version to standard error. That seems > very wrong. And at variance with the manual entry. Fixed in Python 3.4: http://bugs.python.org/issue18338 -- Ned Deily,

Re: gdb unable to read python frame information

2014-03-07 Thread Ned Deily
options. See: ./configure --help -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: locale getlocale returns None on OSX

2014-03-12 Thread Ned Deily
gram. As the caveats section points out, setting locale env vars may have unwanted side effects on other parts of the process it is running in or creates. So, if you are using it in a standalone program, it may be OK. If you are using it a module intended to be used by other programs, you prob

Re: Installing PyGame?

2014-04-24 Thread Ned Deily
elf up for a long-term maintenance headache. What could be easier than: sudo port install py27-game -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MacOS 10.9.2: threading error using python.org 2.7.6 distribution

2014-04-25 Thread Ned Deily
possible that something goes messy when you fork from a > thread. FWIW, the Python 2 version of subprocess is known to be thread-unsafe. There is a Py2 backport available on PyPI of the improved Python 3 subprocess module: http://bugs.python.org/issue20318 https://pypi.python.org/pypi

Re: Heartbleed and the windows distributions on python.org

2014-04-28 Thread Ned Deily
de which means only source fixes for security problems are released as needed and no further binary installers for Windows or OS X are produced. (The Python 2 Windows installer is not affected since it bundles an older, pre-heartbleed version of OpenSSL.) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- htt

Re: [bugs] Last week...

2014-04-29 Thread Ned Deily
t/strings as Python is supposed > to do. If you believe you have found unreported bugs in Python, please open issues for them on the Python bug tracker: http://bugs.python.org Mentioning them here with no details helps no one. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how to build and install multiple micro-level major.minor versions of Python

2014-04-29 Thread Ned Deily
sion with shared library loading. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how to build and install multiple micro-level major.minor versions of Python

2014-04-29 Thread Ned Deily
inless to move from i.j.k to i.j.x. That's also why we only supply fixes for the most recent micro release. -- Ned Deily n...@acm.org -- [] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: idle glitch while building python 3.4 from sources

2014-05-07 Thread Ned Deily
butor - and the people who do generally know (or learn quickly) what dependencies are needed for their needs. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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