Re: converting to and from octal escaped UTF--8

2007-12-02 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 2, 8:38 pm, Michael Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Goerz wrote: > > Hi, > > > I am writing unicode stings into a special text file that requires to > > have non-ascii characters as as octal-escaped UTF-8 codes. > > > For example, the letter "Í" (latin capital I with acute, code p

Re: converting to and from octal escaped UTF--8

2007-12-02 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 2, 11:46 pm, Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Goerz wrote: > > Hi, > > > I am writing unicode stings into a special text file that requires to > > have non-ascii characters as as octal-escaped UTF-8 codes. > > > For example, the letter "Í" (latin capital I with acute, cod

Re: converting to and from octal escaped UTF--8

2007-12-02 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 3, 1:31 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 11:46 pm, Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Michael Goerz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am writing unicode stings into a special text file that requires to > &

Re: minimalist web server

2007-12-03 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 2, 10:13 pm, "Daniel Fetchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The reason I need this is that my current best strategy to avoid ads in > > > web pages is putting all ad server names into /etc/hosts and stick my > > > local ip number next to them (127.0.0.1) so every ad request goes to my

Re: "Python" is not a good name, should rename to "Athon"

2007-12-03 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 2, 4:47 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:55:32 -0800, Russ P. wrote: > > I neither know nor care much about Newton's personality and social > > graces, but I can assure you that he was more than a "technician" (no > > offense to techn

Re: "Python" is not a good name, should rename to "Athon"

2007-12-03 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 3, 7:23 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:12:17 -0800, MonkeeSage wrote: > > Being fair, the bulk of Liebniz' writings have also been rejected by > > those in related fields. Most modern metaphysicians h

Re: "Python" is not a good name, should rename to "Athon"

2007-12-03 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 3, 5:39 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 3, 2:40 pm, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Until the OP posted his lastest 'why', I assumed this proposal was an April > > Fools' post that he just could not wait to post. In fact, given that the > > effective cost wo

Re: Generating API documentation as a textfile

2007-12-03 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 3, 8:58 am, Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:45:45 -0800, Giampaolo Rodola' wrote: > > dir.__doc__ > > This contains only the docstring one object (module, class, > function, ...). I was thinking more of the complete API documentation > that can be found in a file,

Re: converting to and from octal escaped UTF--8

2007-12-04 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 3, 8:10 am, Michael Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MonkeeSage wrote: > > On Dec 3, 1:31 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Dec 2, 11:46 pm, Michael Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Michael Goerz wrote: > >

Re: Class destructor -- strange behaviour

2007-12-06 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 6, 3:51 pm, Spes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have this simple code: > | #!/usr/bin/python > | import codecs > | import re > | from copy import deepcopy > | > | class MyClass(object): > | def __del__(self): > | deepcopy(1) > | > | x=MyClass() > > but I get an error: > | Excep

Re: Capturing global input?

2007-12-06 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 6, 9:16 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 3:51 pm, nomihn0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to accept mouse gestures and keyboard shortcuts as input to a > > program. The nature of this program requires that these comma

Re: Capturing global input?

2007-12-06 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 6, 3:51 pm, nomihn0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to accept mouse gestures and keyboard shortcuts as input to a > program. The nature of this program requires that these commands be > issued regardless of the currently active window. Here's the rub: I > need a platform-independent so

Re: __iadd__ useless in sub-classed int

2007-12-06 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 6, 3:02 pm, samwyse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 1:12 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > samwyse schrieb: > > > > For whatever reason, I need an inproved integer. Sounds easy, let's > > > just subclass int: > > > class test(int): > > >pass > > > >

How does python build its AST

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
A quick question about how python parses a file into compiled bytecode. Does it parse the whole file into AST first and then compile the AST, or does it build and compile the AST on the fly as it reads expressions? (If the former case, why can't functions be called before their definitions?) Thank

Re: How does python build its AST

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 7, 9:50 am, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 7, 3:23 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A quick question about how python parses a file into compiled > > bytecode. Does it parse the whole file into AST first and then compile >

Re: __iadd__ useless in sub-classed int

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 7, 12:45 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:01:28 -0300, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribió: > > > I've wondered about this myself. Seems to me, to prevent clobbering > > subclasses, __iadd_

Re: How does python build its AST

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 12:20 am, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "MonkeeSage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | 1.) What is the benefit of doing a two phase compilation (parsing/ > | compiling), rather th

Re: How does python build its AST

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 3:32 am, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 7, 9:23 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A quick question about how python parses a file into compiled > > bytecode. Does it parse the whole file into AST first and then compile >

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 2:10 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:19:40 -0800, tjhnson wrote: > > With properties, attributes and methods seem very similar. I was > > wondering what techniques people use to give clues to end users as to > > which 'things' are methods

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 6:50 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:34:06 -0800, MonkeeSage wrote: > > I think he means callable attributes (methods) and non-callable > > attributes (variables). > > But not every callable attribute

Re: How does python build its AST

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 7, 4:29 pm, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "MonkeeSage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |A quick question about how python parses a file into compiled > | bytecode. Does it parse the whole file

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-07 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 7, 11:08 pm, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python is my favorite programming language. I've used > it as my primary language for about six years now, > including four years of using it full-time in my day > job. Three months ago I decided to take a position > with a team that d

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 12:42 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > On Dec 7, 11:08 pm, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > >> 4) Ruby forces you to explicitly make attributes for > >> instance variabl

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 12:56 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > > > On Dec 8, 2:10 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:19:40 -0800, tjhnson wrote: > > >&g

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-08 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 2:51 pm, Glenn Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 8, 7:44 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think it muddies the water to say that a.a() and a.a are the same > > thing--obviously they are not. > > A thing is not what it is;

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 4:54 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > > > On Dec 8, 12:42 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>MonkeeSage a écrit : > > >>>On Dec 7, 11:08 pm, Steve

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 9, 1:58 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. But as I understand, every attribute in python is a value, sorry...*references* a value -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 8, 4:11 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > > > On Dec 8, 12:56 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>MonkeeSage a écrit : > > >>>On Dec 8, 2:10 am, Marc '

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 9, 3:10 pm, I V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:58:05 -0800, MonkeeSage wrote: > > class A > > attr_accessor :a # == self.a, > ># accessible to instances of A > > def initialize > > @a = "foo"

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
Hi Bruno, I think that we've been having a mainly "semantic" (pun intended) dispute. I think you're right, that we've been using the same words with different meanings. I would like to say firstly that I've been using python for a few years now (about three I think), and I think I have a basic gr

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-09 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 9, 6:23 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bruno, > > I think that we've been having a mainly "semantic" (pun intended) > dispute. I think you're right, that we've been using the same words > with different meanings. > > I w

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
It seems that I've got a short-circuit somewhere here. I understand that everything is an object and the the storage/lookup system is object-agnostic, and that it is only the descriptors (or "tags" as I called them generically) that determine how an attribute is bound, whether it is bound at all, w

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 3:50 am, Seongsu Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12월10일, 오후12시18분, Adonis Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Seongsu Lee wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a dictionary with million keys. Each value in the > > > dictionary has a list with up to thousand integers. > > > Follow

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 7:19 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > It seems that I've got a short-circuit somewhere here. I understand > > that everything is an object and the the storage/lookup system is > > object-agnostic, and that it is only the descripto

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > > O(n*m) because dict/list access is O(n) (ammortized). Somebody correc

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > > O(n*m) because dict/list access is O(n) (ammortized). Somebody correc

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 9:45 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary li

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-11 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 11, 3:10 am, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9 Des, 23:34, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >http://antoniocangiano.com/2007/11/28/holy-shmoly-ruby-19-smokes-pyth > >> >... > > >> The Ruby developers are allowed to be

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-14 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 1:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Seongsu Lee: > > >I have a dictionary with million keys. Each value in the dictionary has a > >list with up to thousand integers.< > > Let's say each integer can be represented with 32 bits (if there are > less numbers then a 3-byte representation may

Re: Is Python really a scripting language?

2007-12-16 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 14, 3:15 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2:48 pm, "Chris Mellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 14, 2007 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 10:34 pm, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Ron Provo

Re: Windows XP unicode and escape sequences

2007-12-16 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 16, 5:28 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you John and Tim. > > With your help I found that the XP console code page is set up for 'cp437' > and with a little bit of browsing I found that 869 is the code page for > Modern Greek. After changing it to 869 that did the trick! Thanks v

Re: free video lessons on 12 computer Science Courses

2007-12-17 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 17, 3:13 am, AK444 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, Good news is that as many as 12 courses from top > universities are providing free video lessons > http://freevideolectures.com/ComputerScience/ > on all the basic courses. All you need to have is Real Player > installed on your PC.

Re: Finite State Machine GUI editor in python?

2007-12-17 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 16, 1:55 am, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent some time googling and on wiki and came up with > pyFSA in python. It may end up being useful, but it is not directly > what I am looking for, as there is no GUI that I can see. > > I know about SMC, but it is not Py

Re: free video lessons on 12 computer Science Courses

2007-12-17 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 17, 6:12 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 17, 3:13 am, AK444 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Guys, Good news is that as many as 12 courses from top > > universities are providing free video lessons > > http://freevideolectures

Re: How to generate pdf file from an html page??

2007-12-20 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 19, 10:17 am, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-19, Terry Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> "Grant" == Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Grant> On 2007-12-19, abhishek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, I am trying to generate a PDF

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