On Friday 20 September 2013 08:48:44 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Can someone take a look at
> >
> > <http://www.scorchworks.com/Fengrave/fengrave_setup.html#linux_fengrav
> > e>
> >
> > The
On Saturday 21 September 2013 01:34:50 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Aseem Bansal
wrote:
> > On Friday, September 20, 2013 10:04:32 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico
wrote:
> >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Aseem Bansal
wrote:
> >> > I hope that cleared some confu
On Sunday 22 September 2013 14:49:21 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine:
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:22:59 -0400, Gene Heskett
>
> declaimed the following:
> >I was quite pleased to see that there was a Rexx/Regina for linux, and
> >for about 10 minutes thought I could make use of
On Sunday 22 September 2013 15:46:52 Gene Heskett did opine:
> On Sunday 22 September 2013 14:49:21 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine:
> > On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:22:59 -0400, Gene Heskett
> >
> > declaimed the following:
> > >I was quite pleased to see that there was a R
On Sunday 22 September 2013 23:41:10 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:55:24 -0400, Gene Heskett
>
> declaimed the following:
> >Then it seems to me that work in the direction should be an active
> >feature request. Unforch, as I've said bef
On Sunday 29 September 2013 13:03:17 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Joel Goldstick
>
> wrote:
> > Here's my question: I wonder if Nikos has ever been employed to write
> > software. If so, I wonder how long he lasted before he was let go.
>
> Unfortunately that p
On Friday 11 October 2013 12:49:40 Roy Smith did opine:
> In article ,
>
> Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> > If someone tried to explain why their field couldn't use ً for the
> > circumference of a unit circle I would suggest that they adjust the
> > other parts of their notation not ً (there are othe
On Thursday 17 October 2013 17:34:15 Mark Lawrence did opine:
> On 17/10/2013 20:43, Ian Kelly wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:07:48 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >>> Module names should be descriptive, not fancy.
> >>
> >>
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 19:53:20 Dennis Lee Bieber did opine:
> On 23 Oct 2013 12:36:09 GMT, Neil Cerutti declaimed
> the
>
> following:
> >On 2013-10-23, David wrote:
> >> On 23 October 2013 22:57, wrote:
> >>> a LARGE number of Python programmers has not even bothered learning
> >>> ve
On Saturday 26 October 2013 10:12:33 Steven D'Aprano did opine:
> Just for fun:
>
>
> class Numberator:
> def __init__(self, number):
> self.__number = number
> def evaluate(self):
> return self.__number
>
> class Multiplier:
> def __init__(self, multiplier, multipli
On Wednesday 30 October 2013 16:29:12 jonas.thornv...@gmail.com did opine:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 20:46:57 UTC+1 skrev Modulok:
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM, wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I am searching for the program or algorithm that makes the best
> > possible of comple
On Sunday 03 November 2013 04:40:45 Ethan Furman did opine:
> On 10/30/2013 01:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Congratulations Jonas. My kill file for this list used to have only
> > one name, but now has 2.
>
> You have more patience than I! Jonas just made mine seven.
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 16:10:40 Skip Montanaro did opine:
> > Have a look at selenium and sauce labs:
> >
> > http://www.seleniumhq.org/
> > https://saucelabs.com/
>
> Maybe we should pass that information along to Kathleen Sebelius. :-)
>
> Skip
I seriously doubt it would do much good.
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 18:19:17 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> > On 2013-11-06 22:22, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> Waving red flags at female bulls is rarely dangerous. ;)
> >
> > though I still wouldn't recommend it if you're COWardly :-)
>
On Saturday 09 November 2013 10:33:57 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> > It's that global newline shortage again. Just because a few people
> > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike...
>
> It's a conspiracy! The government kills a
On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off. Fortunately there
> > are kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to
> > read,
On Sunday 10 November 2013 04:06:06 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine:
> >> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the
> >>
> 2f9cc8da53ee89762a34702f745d2956
>
> But on this site http://onlinemd5.com/ and on linux it has value
> E10D4E3847713472F51BC606852712F1.
>
> Why is there difference in value of Checksum computed by python in
> windows and other system.?
Line endings?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
itted
and accepted to BOINC with its parallelism potential. And
Seagate/Western Digital's combined output for about that same time to
store the result.
I'd choose any other, perhaps less exhaustive method. Or a more
practical size of dataset parameters.
> -Abhiram.R
> *~N
On Friday 06 March 2015 06:22:34 Dave Angel wrote:
> On 03/06/2015 05:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 06 March 2015 03:24:48 Abhiram R wrote:
> >>> A list of 100 elements has approximately 9.33 x 10**157
> >>> permutations. If you could someh
On Friday 06 March 2015 11:30:08 Dave Angel wrote:
> On 03/06/2015 11:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 06 March 2015 06:22:34 Dave Angel wrote:
> >> Sorry, but 50! is not even close to 50**50. The latter is 85
> >> digits as yo
7;t
> want to deal with Amazon. Github adds some conveniences but I've
> never understood the attraction and mystique around it.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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On Friday 13 March 2015 20:48:36 Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:38:09 -0400, Gene Heskett
>
> wrote:
> >Running your own server is a piece of cake, and if I, at 80 yo, can
> > do it, I don't see a single reason you can't do likewise. The code
&g
s we seem to have nurtured in the last
15 years, and we can't possibly be allowed to bother them, can we?
Thanks for bringing up the subject Ben.
> --
> \ “[Entrenched media corporations will] maintain the status quo,
> | `\ or die trying. Either is better than actually
spam campaign and has been found
> spamming Web Forums such as Malwarebytes.
>
> All Usenet users and Listserver recipients, please file spam
> complaints; ab...@sourceforge.net
Done.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot
lti-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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>
>
> Marko
No relationship detectable Marko.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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seed value of the variables we use to 8 or more
digits to the right of the decimal point. Typically the machine can do,
if calibrated correctly, cuts to .00025 inch accuracy, and to have to
specify to fractions of an angstrom in order to make a while statement
function as desired can be a gotch
On Monday 01 June 2015 20:33:50 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:49:35 -0400, Gene Heskett
>
> declaimed the following:
> >But IMO, any language that does not have the ability to set an fp
> > number to a fixed number of digits to the right of the separa
list, nor what that is,
> because they're coming via Google Groups -- which uses the Usenet
> gateway -- or through gmane -- which comes in through the mailing list
> -- or some other web mirror.
You mentioned GoogleGroups, now go warsh yur mouth out with some of
Grandma's Lye soap. Thi
fficiently. Many times they weren't ever aware
of why they were being moved. Telling them depresses them, so its
usually best to just let it work itself out.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in
d something that is both friendlier and more useful for your
usage needs.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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ffled as to why you now have a nested 'for' loop 3 levels
> > deep!
> >
> > --
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
After following this thread to late afternoon today, I would say that
Denis's response was a bit strong and less than he
out instead you augment your signature with "Please ignore the
> boilerplate below.
>
> > JM
> >
> >
> > -- IMPORTANT NOTICE:
> >
> > The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and
> > may also be privileged. If you are not the
and because they are a
scarce commodity, writing their own paycheck? I don't know, other than
no one is publically bragging about it.
> --
> Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
> wlfr...@ix.netcom.comHTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
Cheers, G
On Friday 11 September 2015 22:35:00 Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 11/09/2015 03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 September 2015 20:33:03 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 12:04:05 -0700 (PDT), rurpy--- via Python-list
> >>
> >> declaim
se help?
>
> Based on the comprehensive problem description I have waved my magic
> wand. It should work now. If it still doesn't work, please provide
> more details about the problem.
>
> --
> Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com
You are a piece of work Dennis, love it
> Sent from a person who's unable to make something out of nothing.
>
> ChrisA
Not even a molehill?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Aut
f my printers has a cat5 socket, which turns out to be its fastest
interface, and I had to setup an eth0:0 in 192.168.0.## block for a day
or so until I had wandered thru its menus and found I could put it on my
local networks class D block and did, so eth0:0 was no longer required.
Cheers, Gene H
; or "license" for more
> information.
>
> >>> myprogram.py
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> NameError: name 'myprogram' is not defined >>>
>
> If this is what happened then your python is
sers, etc. The airflow for cooling in them is
controlled by baffles to get the maximum air flow past the hot spots, but
a fan failure usually cooks the whole thing. And at that time, Macs
warranty did not cover collateral damage from a fan failure. Cooked cpu?
Too bad, so sad.
Cheers, Gene Hesk
On Sunday 08 June 2014 12:09:41 Roy Smith did opine
And Gene did reply:
> In article ,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > You may want to reconsider that statement after the first fan failure
> > in your mini. We've had quite a few Mac's in the tv station, as
> &
is
all calculate able if you have experience in air moving, as in HVAC.
> Strange statement.
> What should they convert it into then?
>
> JFTR: Information processing and (physics) energy are about as
> convertible as say: "Is a kilogram smaller/greater than a mile?&qu
converter might need to be
built because at those temps and compression ratio's, I can see a hugely
illegal amount of the various nitrogen oxides the EPA wouldn't tolerate.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and a
om the powerline for every
hour it is on the air. Bean counters have heart attacks over such
figures.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web pag
ighlighters
for calling attention to GCode formatting mistakes, Geany doesn't. It
does look like a capable editor, but it just doesn't fit my instant needs.
> it is quite well featured but still light weight (i tend to do my
> personal work on a netbook so I don't have much i
t's
> what python-list seems to do best...
>
> ChrisA
And that is what you folks to best, when trying to out-standup the last
poster. Then it gets quite funny.
;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
.
That is some of the best advice I have seen on an email list, and I am on
a bunch of them.
Generally I will 2nd that, or 3rd it as the case may be. It simply cannot
be emphasized enough. I am a retired (I'll be 80 on 2 months) broadcast
engineer who got his diploma from the School of
he whole matter.
>
> ChrisA
I am with you on that Chris, nothing with googlegroups in a header last
long enough to even be seen by fetchmail, its in a mailfilter rule and
gets nuked on the server. And life is much simpler.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in
> print ("Leap year")
> elif year % 4 == 0:
> print ("Leap year")
> else:
> print ("Not leap year")
Which is, except for language syntax to state it, exactly the same as is
quoted for this problem in the original K&R C manual. Is there anyth
Greetings experts:
I just dl'd the duqu driver finder script from a link to NSS on /., and
fixed enough of the tabs in it to make it run error-free. At least python
isn't having a litter of cows over the indentation now.
But it also runs instantly on linux.
This line looks suspect to me:
roo
On Sunday, November 06, 2011 06:07:36 PM Dave Angel did opine:
> On 11/06/2011 01:14 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings experts:
> >
> > I just dl'd the duqu driver finder script from a link to NSS on /.,
> > and fixed enough of the tabs in it to make it run
On Monday, November 07, 2011 05:35:15 AM Peter Otten did opine:
> gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings experts:
> >
> > I just dl'd the duqu driver finder script from a link to NSS on /.,
> > and fixed enough of the tabs in it to make it run error-free. At
> >
On Monday, November 07, 2011 10:38:32 AM Andreas Perstinger did opine:
> On 2011-11-07 12:22, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Monday, November 07, 2011 05:35:15 AM Peter Otten did opine:
> >> Are you talking about this one?
> >>
> >> https://github.co
On Monday, November 07, 2011 11:30:45 AM Dave Angel did opine:
Back on the list..
> On 11/07/2011 06:22 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Monday, November 07, 2011 05:35:15 AM Peter Otten did opine:
> >
> >
> >> Are you talking about this one?
> >>
> &g
On Monday, November 07, 2011 02:43:11 PM Dave Angel did opine:
> On 11/07/2011 11:40 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Monday, November 07, 2011 11:30:45 AM Dave Angel did opine:
> > Back on the list..
> >
> >> On 11/07/2011 06:22 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> >>
On Monday, November 07, 2011 07:34:05 PM Terry Reedy did opine:
> On 11/7/2011 11:30 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> > Perhaps winderz does not have 'pipe' files so the authors never got
> > caught out on this?
>
> Last I know, Windows not only had no pipe files but
On Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:53:20 AM Cameron Simpson did opine:
> On 07Nov2011 15:00, gene heskett wrote:
> | On Monday, November 07, 2011 02:43:11 PM Dave Angel did opine:
> | > On 11/07/2011 11:40 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> | > > Down toward the bottom of the file,
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 08:13:13 AM Devin Jeanpierre did opine:
> > I don't expect you to take my word on it (and why should you, I could
> > be an idiot or a sock-puppet), but you could always try googling for
> > "Raymond Hettinger python" and see what comes up. He is not some
> > fly-by
On Monday, November 21, 2011 11:58:53 AM David Riley did opine:
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Matthew Lenz wrote:
> > Using 8N1 under minicom with this device resulted in garbled text when
> > once connected. Connection using 7M1 resulted in the correct text.
> > So there must be something els
On Monday, November 21, 2011 01:28:16 PM David Riley did opine:
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:25 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > And that is 9600 baud 8n1 on both ends. Ascii is normally 7 bit and
> > will have a low 8th bit if fed normal ascii data, so how is the 8th
> > bit g
On Monday, December 12, 2011 12:44:27 PM Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Nick Dokos
wrote:
> > Terry Reedy wrote:
> >> calculations are helped by the fact that (a+b) % c == a%c + b%c, so
> >
> > As long as we understand that == here does not mean "equal", only
> >
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 01:13:08 PM John Ladasky did opine:
> On Jan 3, 7:40 am, BV wrote:
> > MOST COMMON QUESTIONS ASKED BY NON-MUSLIMS
>
> Q0. Why do thousand-line religious posts appear in comp.lang.python?
Already discussed, at considerable length & I got told off.
The solution is to
On Tuesday, January 03, 2012 07:27:32 PM D'Arcy Cain did opine:
> On 12-01-03 01:24 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > The solution is to chop the link between google.groups and this list.
> > But that subject has been declared verboten. Too much inconvenience
> > to ask th
On Wednesday 20 February 2013 10:32:14 Albert Hopkins did opine:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> [...]
>
> > And even us old (78) farts are calling things Kewl now.
>
> 78??? Is that the year you were born or the years since you were born?
>
On Saturday 23 February 2013 12:03:00 Ethan Furman did opine:
> On 02/23/2013 07:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > Steve, why do you say you're not a developer? A score of languages
> > under your belt, choosing to write code in your spare time, and
> > speaking competently on the comparative merit
On Saturday 23 February 2013 17:44:21 Steve Simmons did opine:
> On 23/02/2013 18:32, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I am here because I was hoping some knowledge leakage would help me to
> > understand python, but at my age I am beginning to have to admit the
> > level of abstracti
On Monday 04 March 2013 23:00:31 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
> > It's easy for him to
> > deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I
> > toss over the fence, and his problem is solved.
>
> Sounds like someone
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 06:54:14 Mark Lawrence did opine:
> On 05/03/2013 02:54, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> >
> > wrote:
> >> It's easy for him to
> >> deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste
> >> I toss over the fenc
On Friday 19 April 2013 22:16:18 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber
>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:24:36 +1000, Chris Angelico
> >
> > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Walter Hurry
w
pool/mail/. Much more
peacefull now, for about 2 years...
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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t is not only Monospaced
but quite civilized to look at. I use it for editing any executable
codes source language, and here in kmail too.
> and even there, only if you draw ASCII-art in multi-line comment
> blocks. But its true, that it will have a notable place in a museum.
>
> Mikh
live long enough to see that
happen isn't up to me. At 82, it doesn't look like near as big a chance
as it did when I was 60.
>
> Not all Americans, perhaps not even a majority or a plurality, are
> Ugly Americans, but there are enough of them to screw it up for
> everyone e
and other
> government black actors spy on them for free in the bargain. It's a
> strange, strange world.
>
> Deborah
Pay attention to this lady, she has BTDT enough to make an astute
observation.
I'm hiding behind a locked down dd-wrt router, but sure as hell, some
black ha
Greetings all;
I have a need for the subjects function but installed on wheezy. But it
is not in the repo's.
Is there a solution that doesn't break wheezy?
Thanks.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo
On Friday 19 May 2017 09:32:00 Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 05/19/2017 04:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I have a need for the subjects function but installed on wheezy.
> > But it is not in the repo's.
> >
> > Is there a solution that doesn't break wheezy?
>
On Friday 19 May 2017 10:21:26 Peter Otten wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 19 May 2017 09:32:00 Ethan Furman wrote:
> >> On 05/19/2017 04:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > I have a need for the subjects function but installed on wheezy.
>
; ] },
>"\n"
>]
>}
>
> > XML just needs to die.
>
> Thankfully, that seems to be happening.
Slowly please, it is still being heavily used in the custom gui creation
field. We would love to have gladevcp back in a usable state, but it
wa
wxr-xr-x 1 dbruno dbruno 590 giu 13 14:48 restart.py
>
> You can help me ?
>
> Thank you
export PATH=
but be prepared to type the full path to anything you want to run. It a
PITA, or a cast iron bitch or whatever definition fits.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four
On Saturday 24 June 2017 21:03:18 Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 08:39 am, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 24 June 2017 16:49:25 Smith wrote:
> >> Hello to all,
> >> I wanted to ask you how I could delete a line of an environment
> >> va
7;s laconic juxtaposition points
> > to the deep non-rational programming in our subconscious mind of
> > what we accept and what we dont
> >
> > [Larry seems to be angry about/at somethin'… No idea who/what…]
>
> I think Chomsky is a jerk, and I'm angry at
t? Never heard of it. xml? I've written hundred of kilobytes of
it in plain old geany. I didn't know there was a special editor for xml.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-E
or computers and have the computers start
working for us?
If this is being voted on, pretend you are in Georgia, vote often and
early. Best question of the century.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in th
27;t degenerate into name calling. As I look at my nintyieth in a
month or so I always hope next year will be better. Please make it so.
What decision-making processes are usable in the face of such large
numbers - and how seriously are/would they be taken by 'the average
Python user
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