On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Thomas Boell wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:42:27 +1100
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Thomas Boell wrote:
>> > Huh?! I would have expected all your examples to raise a SyntaxError or
>> > Ind
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> I just need a way to CONVERT a string(absolute path) to a 4-digit unique
> number with INT!!! That's all i want!! But i cannot make it work :(
Either you are deliberately trolling, or you have a major
comprehension problem. Please go back
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
> In fact, I have used scapy in the past, but I am working in a restricted
> environment and don't have this package available. It provides tones more
> than I really need anyway, and I figured a simple raw socket send/receive
> can't be *tha
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:04 PM, rusi wrote:
> Considering that you've fried the of all the poor "out-
> of-my-control' double-posting GG users, what punishment shall we find
> for you?
>
> Heres an idea: Use GG yourself.
> It will help the group/mailing list by reducing 5-fold double-posting
> t
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:43 PM, wrote:
> I create a pyd File named "testPyd" with boostPython,and then I import the
> testPyd module into "test.py", it works perfect!
> But when I embeded the python interpreter into my C++ project and run the
> "test.py", it comes out a "ImportErr: no module n
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Coolgg wrote:
> Is this:
>
> while True:
> data = fp.read(4096)
> if not data:
> break
> ...
>
> not equivalent to this:
>
> data = fp.read (4096)
> while data:
> ...{handle the chunk here}
> data = fp.read (4096)
They should do the sam
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> while getchar() as c:
>putchar(c)
>
> That would give people (including me) the use case they're after most of
> the time (call a function, assign the return value, and test it). It's
> way less klunky than:
>
> while True:
>c = getchar(
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> You think it's an accident that md5 size is roughly equivalent to 39 decimal
> digits? Or that the ones that haven't been proven insecure are much larger
> than that? The sha512 hash is roughly equivalent to 154 decimal digits.
Proving a has
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Nick Cash
wrote:
> Python 2.7.3 on linux
>
> This has me fairly stumped. It looks like
> urllib2.urlopen("ftp://some.ftp.site/path";).read()
> will either immediately return '' or hang indefinitely. But
> response = urllib2.urlopen("ftp://some.ftp.s
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> I certainly can't disagree that it's easy to produce a very long hash that
> isn't at all secure. But I would disagree that longer hashes
> *automatically* reduce chances of collision.
Sure. But by and large, longer hashes give you a better c
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Milter Skyler wrote:
> I made an array to check if the random integer already exists and then I send
> it to the else statement at which point I want to decrease x by 1 so that it
> doesn't count as one of the loops. In other languages this works...
A Python 'fo
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Note however that there is an ambiguity between calling "python -mspam"
> and calling a script literally named "-mspam". But that same ambiguity
> exists in the shell, so I don't consider it a problem. You cannot call a
> script named -mspa
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM, wrote:
> What I have to do is to write a Python application that will send MIDI
> commands to an iPad application.
> All I know is that the iPad application can be connected to an external Midi
> deck through a usb cable and be controlled.
> So I think I would c
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:37 PM, inshu chauhan wrote:
> For me I think the programme is logically correct, but its giving me results
> which are strange.
> It is Printing " Different Class" even when sp[9] is equal to sp[10] and
> "Same class" when sp[9] is not equal to sp[10]. and sp[9] and sp
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> I;am now convinced the hash solution isn't reversible and also isn't unique.
> I'am trying the database oriented solution.
Glad you've listened to at least some of what you've been told. But if
you want to be taken seriously on this list,
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Hazard Seventyfour
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I new in this python and decided to learn more about it, so i can make an own
> script :),
>
> for all senior can you suggest me the best, friendly and easy use with nice
> GUI editor for me, and have many a good features su
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> The simplest way is to execute a SELECT just after the insertion, doing
> a
>
> SELECT pin FROM counters WHERE page = %s
>
> I don't use MySQL, so I can't say if it supports "INSERT ... RETURNING ..."
> SQL syntax: should it, then you could
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM, inshu chauhan wrote:
> Yeah I tried printing, there were trailing white spaces, so i used strip()
> and IT Worked !!! :)
Awesome! Keep repr() in mind, it's a great way to check what's really there.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Tobias M. wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> The other thing you may want to consider, if the values are supposed
>> to be integers, is to convert them to Python integers before
>> comparing.
>
> I thought of this too and I wo
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:48 PM, wrote:
> Thanks for your help Chris!
> forgive my ignorance, but I am not sure what you mean.
> I've installed pmidi and what I get is:
>
> ~$ pmidi -p 128:0 No.19.mid
> Could not open file No.19.mid
>
> Doesn't that mean that the iPad is not seen?
Heya! That wa
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Tobias M. wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> I'd not consider the performance, but the correctness. If you're
>> expecting them to be integers, just cast them, and specifically
>> _don't_ catch ValueError. Any non-in
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM, wrote:
> I think I am not lucky :-(
>
> $ aplaymidi -l
> PortClient name Port name
> 14:0Midi Through Midi Through Port-0
>
> I get the same either the iPad is connected or not.
> So I guess is not recognized.
>
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Τη Πέμπτη, 24 Ιανουαρίου 2013 1:16:51 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
> έγραψε:
>> Glad you've listened to at least some of what you've been told. But if
>> you want to be taken seriously on this lis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM, iMath wrote:
>
> anyone can make a Python bindings of VLC-Qt ?
> https://github.com/ntadej/vlc-qt
> accurately, can anyone make a PyQt bindings of VLC-Qt ?
Yes, someone can. Ideally, someone who knows C++, Python, VLC, and Qt,
and has the time to port the code
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Duncan Booth
wrote:
> Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>
>> I can do that but then i have to use that pin column's value in my
>> next statement.
>>
>> cursor.execute( '''UPDATE visitors SET hits = hits + 1, useros = %s,
>> browser = %s, date = %s WHERE pin = %s AND host = %
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:54 AM, rusi wrote:
> - last expression with _ (underscore)
Small terminology quibble: That's not last expression, but last non-None result.
>>> 1+2
3
>>> _
3
>>> _,None
(3, None)
>>> _
(3, None)
>>> _[1]
>>> _
(3, None)
Otherwise, agree totally. Get to know the interac
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> On 01/24/13 13:34, Leonard, Arah wrote:
>>>
>>> All true (especially the holy wars bit!). OP didn't (as far as
>>> I can see) even say which OS he is using. Anyway, my suggestion
>>> is generally that people use the editor with which they are
>>>
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> It's usually fine to have int() complain about any non-numerics in the
>> string, but I must confess, I do sometimes yearn for atoi() semantics:
>> atoi("123asd") =
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> On 24 January 2013 11:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> It's usually fine to have int() complain about any non-numerics in the
>> string, but I must confess, I do sometimes yearn for atoi() semantics:
>> atoi
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> I have solved similar situations with
> sorted(filenames, key=lambda s: (len(s), s))
> which is better than lexicographical ordering for sorting integer
> strings. It gets the _Int file wrong in this case (but I consider it
> luck that
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Leonard, Arah
wrote:
>>>
>>> It's just a text file after all.
>>>
>>
>> True indeed, let's not worry about trivial issues like indentation, mixing
>> tabs and spaces or whatever. Notepad anybody? :)
>>
>
> Hey, I didn't say Notepad was the *best* tool for the job
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> print ( " %s "
> % item )
>
> In the aboce code wheb 'URL' is to be typed out be print i need it to be
> formatted as a link, so the viewer can click on it.
>
> Is this possible please?
Easy, just make a t
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> That code works, but it creates links for both the URL and hits columns!
> Only the URL must be linked not the hits column!
1) Trim your quotes. I can't be bothered doing your trimming for you,
so I'm now under-quoting.
2) Quit using Googl
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:26 AM, wrote:
> miles = int(string_miles)
> gas = int(string_gas)
>
> #used to calculate mpg through division
> mpg = miles/gas
>
> print(float(string_miles))
> print(float(string_gas))
> print('Your miles per gallon is', format(mpg,'.2f'))
Welcome aboard!
You turn you
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:29 AM, alex23 wrote:
> 5) Please stop writing code for his _commercial web hosting service_
> for free.
You mean, stop asking us to write &c.? With that edit, yes, I agree.
One of the difficulties on this list is that we don't have
two-dimensional people. Even our wors
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Juhani Karlsson
wrote:
> Or take this course for free and buy 500 lunches.
> Your choice.
You spend $8 on lunch? Wow, that's taking TANSTAAFL a long way...
ChrisA
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>> but I happen to know its offset is 0 (i.e. GMT).
>
> As further fuel for your hatred: GMT is not the same thing as UTC+0, and
> never has been. (See the definitions of those two separate timezones for
> more; Wikipedia's articles are probably a
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Okey, so far BUT i want the url linking to happen only for the URL column's
> value, and not for the hits column too. How do i apply the url link to the
> URL column's value only?
Step 1: Learn to read documentation.
Step 2: Learn to writ
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Τη Κυριακή, 27 Ιανουαρίου 2013 11:08:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico
> έγραψε:
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Okey, so far BUT i want the url linking to happe
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:47 PM, loial wrote:
> I am parseing a file to extract data, but am seeing the file being updated
> even though I never explicitly write to the file. It is possible that another
> process is doing this at some later time, but I just want to check that
> opening the fil
sting in your actual code, please?
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Wolfgang Maier
wrote:
> Why not extend this filtering by allowing a while statement in addition to
> if, as in:
>
> [n for n in range(1,1000) while n < 400]
The time machine strikes again! Check out itertools.takewhile - it can
do pretty much that:
import iterto
Argh, sorry folks. Hit the wrong list. :(
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Wolfgang Maier
> wrote:
>> Why not extend this filtering by allowing a while statement in addition to
>> if, as in:
>>
>> [n for n
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM, inshu chauhan wrote:
> where f1 contains something like :
>
> 297, 404, ,
> 298, 404, , ..
> 299, 404, .
> . ..
> 295, 452,
>
> and f2 contains something like :
>
> 7
> . 2
> 2
> .7
>
> and what I want to be written in th
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:24 AM, inshu chauhan wrote:
>> In that case, Dave's suggestion to read into a list and iterate over
>> the list is to be strongly considered. But I'm not entirely sure what
>> your goal is here. Are you trying to make the Cartesian product of the
>> two files, where you h
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Dave Angel wrote:
> What you want is the zip() function
>
> for l,s in zip(f1, f2):
> #you now have one line from each file,
> # which you can then validate and process
>
> Note, this assumes that when a line is "bad" from either file, you're going
> to a
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, iMath wrote:
> why [os.path.join(r'E:\Python', name) for name in []] returns [] ?
> please explain it in detail ！
That's a list comprehension. If you're familiar with functional
programming, it's like a map operation. Since the input list (near the
end of the com
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Jabba Laci wrote:
> if md5:
> md5 = hashlib.md5()
> md5.update(text)
> return md5.hexdigest()
Simpler:
if md5:
return hashlib.md5(text).hexdigest()
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM, iMath wrote:
> 在 2013年1月29日星期二UTC+8下午9时33分26秒，Steven D'Aprano写道：
>> iMath wrote: > why [os.path.join(r'E:\Python', name) for name in []] returns
>> [] ? Because you are iterating over an empty list, []. That list
>> comprehension is the equivalent of: result = [
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Daniel W. Rouse Jr.
wrote:
> I am currently using "Learning Python" by Mark Lutz and David Ascher,
> published by O'Reilly (ISBN 1-56592-464-9)--but I find the explanations
> insufficient and the number of examples to be sparse. I do understand some
> ANSI C progra
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Daniel W. Rouse Jr.
wrote:
> "Chris Angelico" wrote in message
> news:mailman.1197.1359515470.2939.python-l...@python.org...
>> Have you checked out the online documentation at
>> http://docs.python.org/ ? That might have what you
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Daniel W. Rouse Jr.
wrote:
> To me, this looks like an array. Is tuple just the Python name for an array?
Not quite. An array is closer to a Python list - a tuple can be
thought of as a "frozen list", if you like. Lists can be added to,
removed from, and changed i
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM, inshu chauhan wrote:
> I actually dont want nested loops but cant find another way to achieve what
> I want, But for these files I am sure that they have equal lengths, thats
> why I am taking the risk of using nested loops.. Can you suggest any
> different way to
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
> however, when I tried an experiment in python 2.7 using the script below I
> find that the looping algorithms perform better. A naive loop using list +=
> list would appear to be an O(n**2) operation, but python seems to be doing
> better than
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:16 AM, wrote:
> Hi everyone! I don't mean to intrude, but ive heard great things about this
> group and ive stumped myself with my python code.
Hi! As others have said, this is no intrusion, but it'd help a lot if
you posted your errors and used a more useful subject l
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Jorge Alberto Diaz Orozco
wrote:
> I want to use a reliable UDP connection like you say, a TCP like connection
> but over UDP. thaks for your recomendation, if I get good results I promise
> to share them.
To get something reliable over UDP, you're going to need
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Jorge Alberto Diaz Orozco
wrote:
> I have restrictions in my system that does not allow me to use TCP, so I want
> to make a pipe over UDP imitating TCP behavior.
> I have control over both endpoints, and I´m writing both of them.
> I just don´t want to re-invent
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM, wrote:
> Now, the good news is that because UDP-based protocols all run in user memory
> space (as opposed to TCP that runs privileged in kernel space) it is
> relatively straightforward for non-privledged users to write and test UDP
> transport schemes and thi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Jason Swails wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:34:03 -0500, Jason Swails wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I was having some trouble understanding decorators and inheritance and
>> > all that. This is w
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:05 PM, wrote:
> "Brian" is a package I wrote (with several others) to do simulations of
> spiking neural networks in Python. Read the article if you want to know
> more! :)
Ah, I don't need to read it. You're simulating a brain; the rest is
mere appendix!
(couldn't res
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> dg.google.gro...@thesamovar.net wrote:
>
>> If you could take one minute to make sure you
>> are signed in to your Google+ account
>
> Which Google+ account would that be? I have so few.
>
It's a thing non-nerds do, Steven. You wouldn't und
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, wrote:
> Why there isn't any replys ? .
Because you posted it only a couple of hours ago, for one :)
My initial guess is: No. Feel free to disprove me by searching on
Google and finding one.
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Steve Simmons wrote:
> At this point, I began to wonder what a 'correctly structured' OO program
> should look like. Should I separate GUI logic from 'business' logic? Should
> everything be in one class? Should my main() be carrying the high level
> logic? Anyin
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Rhubarb Sin wrote:
> PEP-8 calls for "short, all-lowercase names" for packages:
>
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#package-and-module-names
>
> On the other hand, The Hitchhiker's Guide to Packaging 1.0, under
> "Background," declares "come up with a Camel
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Schizoid Man wrote:
> The quantity s is input with the following line: s = input("Enter s: ")
>
> To get rid of the compile error, I can cast this as a float: s =
> float(input("Enter s: "))
>
> However, then the result returned by the method is wrong. Why does
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Schizoid Man wrote:
> Scratch that, I'm not sure which result is right now, so need to look at the
> full calculations in details. What would be the difference between
> raw_input() and float(input())?
>
> Thanks again.
Depends on what you type in.
raw_input() ta
t. Other than that, I can't see any obvious
reason for there to be a difference. Can you put together a simple
script that demonstrates the problem and post it, along with the exact
input that you're giving it, and the different outputs?
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Schizoid Man wrote:
>> If your input has no decimal point in it, eval (or input) will return
>> an integer, not a float. Other than that, I can't see any obvious
>> reason for there to be a difference. Can you put together a simple
>> script that demonstrates the p
Python 2 can intern 'str' (bytes) strings (with the eponymous builtin,
and with C API functions), though not unicode. Python 3 does not have
that builtin, nor the C API; I can't find any support for either str
or bytes.
Has it been moved, or is interning as a concept deprecated?
I don't have a us
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> The former, into `sys`:
> http://docs.python.org/dev/library/sys.html#sys.intern
> Search the "What's New"s in the future.
> http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/whatsnew/3.0.html#builtins
Doh, should have checked. Thanks!
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> I think that the devs decided that interning is a minor internal
> optimization that users generally should not fiddle with (especially how
> that so much is done automatically anyway*), while having it a builtin made
> it look like something t
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>
> Here is a grep from the month of September 2011...
Is it? Interesting. I met that month yesterday (she was shopping in
Oakleigh, don't ask) and she knew nothing about it.
Oh, did you mean "Here is the result of using the grep(1) utility on
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a grep
>
> A grep? What is a grep?
According to the damage type table on Aardwolf MUD, a grep is a type
of slash - at least, it's resisted by the same armor value that
resis
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:44 PM, alex23 wrote:
> On Jan 24, 4:56 am, 8 Dihedral
> wrote:
>> I know manny python programmers just abandon the list comprehension
>> in non-trivial processes.
>
> Really? Observation of the python mailing list indicates the opposite:
> people seem inclined to use
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Douglas Eric wrote:
> I suggest to change this behavior. If one makes a SELECT statement without
> any ORDER BY, it would be
> clever to automatically sort by the first primary key found in the query, if
> any.
> The present behavior would still be used in case of
Whoops. Wrong list. *sigh* At least there's some variety - it's
not Savoynet this time.
Disregard the mad guy in the corner, he's not saying anything useful anyway...
ChrisA
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Douglas
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
> If you want to encourage them to fill up their memory with user provided
> data in a non-erasable way, then sure, that would certainly keep an
> attacker from having to figure out hash collisions in order to bring down a
> system. Sending *an
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Martin P. Hellwig
wrote:
> Having said that, I do like to bring to your attention that her Majesty,
> never ratified the 'Declaration of Independence'. :-)
Oh, stop it. It's high time we got rid of these silly distinctions of
English and American. Rick's right -
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andrea Crotti
wrote:
> I just would like to be able to write somewhere in a place that should
> always exist,
> why Windows you're so annoying :(?
Can you use the current directory, and rely on the user running your
program from a viable default?
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:22 AM, T H wrote:
> I’m new to python, sorry if my question is a bit naive, I was
> wondering if it is possible to parse some text (ie. from a text file
> or say html) and then dynamically create a class?
Presuming that your class name comes from somewhere (eg the name o
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Blockheads Oi Oi
wrote:
> On 24/01/2012 20:03, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> A simple version number doesn't imply huge breakages. Try "English2 v1.0"!
>>
>> In fact, why would a perfect language need a version number?
>>
> It would be difficult to maintain Python withou
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> I believe we'll just have to "agree to disagree" on the issue of
> pretty. However, let's take a step back and view this issue from a
> global perspective. Ask yourself:
>
> Q: "Am i choosing my words carefully, or just blindly imitating other
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> In the
> same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
> using "organ" to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
> never use "gadget" to refer to an unnamed body part.
I dunno... every Sunday I press k
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:19 AM, lh wrote:
> Third, length. Well 5000 lines eh... I'm nowhere near that guess I can
> stick with one file.
Of all the source files I have at work, the largest is about that, 5K
lines. It gets a little annoying at times (rapid deployment requires
GCC to do its magic
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> So, I'd say the driving principle should be that a function should do
> one thing. Every function should have an elevator talk. You should be
> able to get on an elevator with a function and when you ask it, "So,
> what do you do?", it should b
Hopefully this will be a step up from Rick's threads in usefulness,
but I'm aware it's not of particularly great value!
How do you pronounce PyPI? Is it:
* Pie-Pie?
* Pie-Pip, but without the last p? (same as above but short i)
* Pie-Pea-Eye?
* Something else?
I've been saying Pie-Pea-Eye myself,
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Obviously that's pronounced Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-
> F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel.
Ah, it's of British origin then.
ChrisA
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>> > * Pie-Pie?
>>
>> Or that one.
>
> What flavour is it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKB4h9gvmm0>
Concrete! Flavour of the month.
Thanks for the responses, all. Looks like Pie-Pea-Eye has consensus
(with hon ment
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Lee Chaplin wrote:
> I am trying to create an object that is aware of other objects created
> before itself, and when found, then copy some attributes from them,
> something like:
If you're looking only at other objects of the same class, the easiest
way is to mai
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 1/28/2012 11:02 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> If you're looking only at other objects of the same class, the easiest
>> way is to maintain a list every time one is created. Then you just
>> iterate o
and proper division of code
into multiple source files, that's not a significant concern. In any
case, the worst that can happen is overly-large intermediate (.o or
.obj) files; by the time the final binary is built, any duplicates
will have to have been "folded down" to one anyway.
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
>
> The British pronunciation of Beauchamp created a minor incident
> at Yeoman of the Guard auditions this weekend.
What about Sir Richard "Chumley", the "Left Tenant" of the Tower?
Although this is now quite off-topic for this list...
Chri
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Duncan Booth
wrote:
> Abitrarily nested tuples of exceptions cannot contain loops so the code
> simply needs to walk through the tuples until it finds a match.
Is this absolutely guaranteed? The C API for CPython provides:
(Py2) http://docs.python.org/c-api/tuple.h
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Incidentally, I *think* that any correctly written C code attempting
> to nest a tuple inside itself would make the reference count of the
> tuple be at least 2 at the time of the call, and so it would fail.
Good, nice that that's certain :)
Mi
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Andres Soto wrote:
>
> okok, my mistake is that I was using string in place of str. Thank you!!
> regards
Tip: In the interactive interpreter, enter:
>>> type("spam")
In Python 2, it'll say "type" not "class", but same diff. It tells you
there what the type is.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM, andrea crotti wrote:
> Mm I don't think it's what the OP is asking (unless I misunderstood...).
> I think he wants to compile some syntax TO Python.
> But I don't really see why you would something like this (if not for fun).
>
> Then how are you going to maintain t
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> No matter what Python did, somebody would complain.
+1
This is, I think, the ultimate truth of the matter.
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On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
> It's a rare occurrence, but sometimes my script will terminate and I get
> this:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "C:\path\to\script\script.py", line 992, in
Do you call on potentially-buggy external modules? I'd be curious to
se
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
> On 2/3/2012 9:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Do you call on potentially-buggy external modules?
> It imports one module that does little more than define a few simple
> functions. There's certainly no (intentional) interpr
27;,'04')}
>...
> and I get and error that TUPLE object has no attribute Append !!!
>
> But how to add new Values to a dictionary then ?
... but instead of using parentheses and creating a Tuple, use square
brackets and create a List:
mydict = {'Name':['Name
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