inary files, and we are
not talking about _those_ chunks.
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on't need an extra
keyword, so no programs will be broken because they used "transfer",
"goto" or whatever other new keyword as an identifier.
Oooh I like this. The parallel makes sense, and as you say, no new
keyword. Yes, "return from" is my new preferred comm
which incite anger in me. I urge
you to consider this approach.
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o knows if it was caused by GMail. Hard to tell at this point.
(*) However, it does look like something may have treated a plain text message
as plain text in format=flowed form.
Or perhaps some user agent has just gone rogue.
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in rec.moto, jsh wrote:
Dan Nitschke wrote:
&g
On 26Jul2015 09:02, Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Sun, 26 Jul 2015 00:58:08 -, Grant Edwards writes:
You use mutt or something else decent as your MUA.
I do -- the problem is all the gmail users out there.
Take heart - gmail used to do much worse than this:-)
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th is in place.
Any time you pull from an exterior place, you need to be sure the exterior
place doesn't have unexpected code - if someone untrusted can insert python
code into the extra lib path then they may get it imported.
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egal, but wrong. It will result in LineLogic having the default
initialisation i.e. nothing, as the __init__ function is not part of the class.
But yes, this would all be clearer had the OP posted the code instead of a tiny
out of context snippet.
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Motorcycling is ind
g needed then a seek() to any position obtained by tell() should be
reliable.
In short: line beginnings are not the only places where you can safely seek.
Though they may be conveniently available.
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gle octal digit).
16 registers - you forget the alternate register set.
Since the UNIX V7 kernel code never made use of them we used to use them as a
crude messaging system from user space, as what you put there sayed there,
globally accessible by other users.
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TeX: Whe
ess. ^A, ^E, ^P and ^N are really quite
critical.
Laura (happy emacs user since 1979)
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cutable. I do not
use Windows, but I believe you can adjust these associations.
However, the first question (to verify that this is the issue) is: if you
deliberately invoke python2 and execute your code with it, does it behave the
same way as when you currently double click on the file?
Chee
quot;fname" confused in your code.
Based on your code, "fname" is supposed to be the filename (a string) and "fn"
is meant to be the open file object (a file), since you have this line:
fn = open(fname)
However, you set "fn" from raw_input when you sho
se probably true.
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On 31Jul2015 18:26, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
For example, bash lacks
decent timezone support, so I can well believe random832's guess that
your five-hour offset is a simulation of that; but Python can do much
better work with timezone
len(list2). If that
element equals elem0, _then_ compare the list at that point as you suggested.
Is there an aspect of this which doesn't work?
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On 01Aug2015 15:55, Lukas Barth wrote:
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 12:32:25 AM UTC+2, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Fine. This also eliminates any solution which just computes a hash.
Exactly.
Might I suggest instead simply starting with the leftmost element in the first
list; call this elem0
when accessed by the
code as cs.app.maildb, are there other implications to such a change that would
break real world code?
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7;t let it get too weird - that would probably be a
sign you do want to reach for JSON or YAML.
But start with INI. Simple and easy.
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On 02Aug2015 17:41, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 01:53 pm, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Maybe this should be over in python-ideas, since there is a proposal down
the bottom of this message. But first the background...
I've just wasted a silly amount of time debugging an
. How does this
play with, for instance, zipimport, where there's no actual file name
for the module?
To my eyes, badly, which IMO strengthens my case for addressing the situation
in the interpreter instead of requiring increasingly complex gyrations on the
part of every programmer on the pl
etc) then we're back in the risk zone.
So on the whole I am against python code as the config file format. Really, who
needs a Turing complete configuration file?
Go with something simple, both in syntax and semantics. It is easier to read,
easier to write/modify, and easier to access from
thread, even
if the signal was received in another thread.
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On 08Aug2015 18:17, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
From:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/signal.html#execution-of-python-signal-handlers
we have:
A Python signal handler does not get executed inside the low-level (C)
signal handler
stuff. "subprocess" is part of the library.
I'm not sure what metric you're using here for "easy to learn".
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s, but you're still
left with what is it.
It is like a for loop, but you know that by now.
Is there an up to date book on 3.x even. Every book seems to be from 2006 or
so.
Not sure, sorry.
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nce. And a much better attempt than other "let the user
write plain English" attempts like COBOL or SQL (less proselike, but definitely
of that aim).
There is of course Elisa :-)
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/babbler/
Though it isn't programming...
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My
g particular flavours.
And the result us a tuple, not a dict.
I also thought the stdlib had some kind of "namespace" class with this kind of
API, but I can't find it now:-(
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ps
On 11Aug2015 14:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
I also thought the stdlib had some kind of "namespace" class with this kind
of API, but I can't find it now:-(
It does - types.SimpleNamespace(). It accepts keyword arguments, a
he's on RedHat Linux 5 (or CentOS 5) the system Python is 2.4.3.
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important. Do you have backups of your system? Time Machine is a standard part
of OSX, is incredibly easy to set up and generally great. Are you using it?
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ir design).
Languages like Python aim for a more freindly and flexible programming syntax,
and some of the price of that is more indirection between "byte code" and the
underlying machine operations.
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remember, information is not knowledge,
knowledge is not
ose()
fd2 is not closed, but fd is still open for further use.
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On 02Sep2015 08:01, Cameron Simpson wrote:
One circumstance where you might use fdopen and _not_ want .close to close the
underlying service is when you're handed a file descriptor over which you're
supposed to perform some I/O, and the I/O library functions use high level
file
you can run it standalone without
Apache. I'm knocking something together right now using Flask, and I'm
intending to run it without Apache at all. There'll be an haproxy in front of
it for other reasons, but to get off the ground you don't even need that.
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On 07Sep2015 14:57, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Another nice thing about Flask is that you can run it standalone without
Apache. I'm knocking something together right now using Flask, and I'm
intending to run it without Apache at all
partial data packets)
into a network packet, etc.
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On 21Sep2015 12:40, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 21Sep2015 10:34, Chris Angelico wrote:
If you're going to add sequencing and acknowledgements to UDP,
wouldn't it be easier to use TCP and simply prefix every message with
a two-b
On 21Sep2015 18:07, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
For sizes below 128, one byte of length. For sizes 128-16383, two bytes. And
so on. Compact yet unbounded
instead of just \r
do you need to follow every .write() with a .flush()? if the Serial object is
a buffered stream that will be necessary
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ad of which big dumb
button to push. Besides, he came here saying: I'm doing this, what am I doing
wrong? We're trying to help him with this.
It is not always about the final destination you know.
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subprocess.Popen. That is the most direct and controllable method.
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On 24Sep2015 20:57, shiva upreti wrote:
Thank you Cameron.
I think the problem with my code is that it just hangs without raising any
exceptions. And as mentioned by Laura above that when I press CTRL+C, it just
catches that exception and prints ConnectionError which is definitely a lie in
On 24Sep2015 22:46, shiva upreti wrote:
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 10:55:45 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Sep2015 20:57, shiva upreti wrote:
>Thank you Cameron.
>I think the problem with my code is that it just hangs without raising any
>exceptions. And as mentioned
On 26Sep2015 09:46, Gonzalo V wrote:
Hi Cameron.
i had the same problems and you have to tell to python what to do with the
connect problem.
Definitely. That's why we're encouraging him to handle specific exceptions.
try this:
...
except *urllib.error.HTTPError* as e:
On 29Sep2015 23:04, shiva upreti wrote:
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 12:55:01 PM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Ok. You original code says:
try:
r=requests.post(url, data=query_args)
except:
print "Connection error"
and presumably we think your code is hanging
On 30Sep2015 23:56, Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Thu, 01 Oct 2015 07:30:59 +1000, Cameron Simpson writes:
Most likely the Ctrl-C interrupts whatever system call is hanging, causing it
to return (failed, probably with errno EINTR). And the python program resumes
because the OS system
ant if the output of your command is large or slow, as
it does not need to suck the whole thing into memory or to wait for it to
finish a long procedure. With "ps" these issues are pretty minor; with some
other programs it can be significant, especially if the other program _doesn&#
r of df, consider calling
os.statvfs() directly from Python:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.statvfs
Iam using python 2.7 on Linux
It is the same in Python 2.
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tself? Using the correct IP address should
normally be sufficient. The system you're talking to won't know anything about
the device, only the address. Try skipping the device binding step.
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On 27Oct2015 10:00, Robin Becker wrote:
On 26/10/2015 22:29, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 26Oct2015 12:33, Robin Becker wrote:
.
$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:...4 GB)
Interrupt:16
eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet HWa...
Do you need
ching for a particular device
is annoying and weird and possibly even pointless.
Anyhow my upstream provider has taken over the problem so hopefully I will get
the address cleared at some point.
Ok.
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pression obtained will be small and the loss from
any base64 post step will undo it all. He may be better off keeping
conventional text logs and just rotating them and compressing the rotated
copies.
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Hoping to shave precious seconds off the time it would take me to
them uncompressed and using compression in
the transfer. "ssh -o compression=yes" or "rsync -z", etc.
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On 29Oct2015 23:16, Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:28:07 +1100, Cameron Simpson writes:
On 29Oct2015 09:15, Laura Creighton wrote:
Did the OP say he wanted to keep his compressed logfiles on a
local disk? What if he wants to send them across the internet
to some
may be able to mount one end or the other as a remote
filesystem. Then you can benchmark plain old "cp" over SMB or NFS etc.
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ard limit - I don't know. Bad, bad idea.
It is a very strange request. But very corporate/government in mindset.
Alas, I cannot help to the with any tools or module for his task.
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... complain about timeout, reciting "e" in the message ...
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Can I have a link to use python
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nothing on the page that
looks like it should need any JavaScript (hmm, some mouseovers but I'm pretty
sure that can be mediated entirely in CSS, perhaps less "smoothly").
There does seems to be a nice long list of relevant Python packages listed
there though.
Cheers,
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Works just fine and avoids all the worrying about ordering etc.
Israel, do you have control over the protocol between you and your subprocess?
If so, adding tags is easy and effective.
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On 24Nov2015 16:25, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Completely untested example code:
class ReturnEvent:
def __init__(self):
self.event = Event()
With, of course:
def wait(self):
return self.event.wait()
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)
return RE
def process_response(tag, response_data):
RE = re_by_tag.pop(tag)
RE.result = response_data
RE.event.set()
... CherryPy request handler ...
RE = submit_request(your_query_info)
RE.wait()
response_data = RE.result
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7;m mentioning it in
support of the use case.
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It may be that this
issue has been fixed in a later release of Python than the one currently
installed on your HP-UX box.
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o the side, for example in /opt/python-2.7.7. Then use that python
executable (eg /opt/python-2.7.7/bin/python) to see if the problem still
exists.
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retty clearly (to me) describes blocking=False, by contrasting it with a
behaviour that would obtain if blocking=True. It is in the clause describing
"the blocking argument set to False", after all.
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ly.
A quick'n'dirty debug tool.
'''
global D_mode
if D_mode:
X(fmt, *args)
I use X() for ad hoc right now debugging and D() for turn on at need debugging.
Surprisingly handy. Many many of my modules have "from cs.logutils import X, D
So you don't write code, test and _then_ save. You write code and save. Then
test from the saved file.
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using "from __future__ import equals" in Python 3.5, and then to
become the default behaviour in 3.6.
* To support non-reflexive types, allow === and !=== operators, which
are like == and != except they don't call `is` first.
[...]
I don't like the spelling. They seem
- because it is thread local it doesn't asynchronously affect other running
code
- it doesn't introduce a new operator
- it affects a tightly constrainted behaviour, and can obviously be extended to other special cases if they arise
The downside is that it could break code dep
nly one).
If you write a little test script (untested):
import re
TESTLINE = "Hours logged: 12"
regexp = re.compile( r'Hours logged: (\d+)' )
m = regexp.match(TESTLINE)
print "subgroup 1:", m.group(1)
that should print "12".
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the programmer, in that
they can set the domain in which the behaviour obtains.
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Q: How many user support people does it take to change a light bulb?
A: We have an exact copy of the light bulb here and it seems to be
working fine. Can you tell me what kind of sy
ackets.
The outermost ( and ) are regexp grouping brackets, not text. On their own you
don't need them, but they mark out the regexp between them for later reference
or for use with a repeating modifier like ?, * or +. So in this instance they
do not add anything special to the regexp.
On 10Jul2014 17:34, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 07/10/2014 05:20 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Here's an alternative proposal that doesn't involve a new operator.
[snip float-context manager stuff]
Decimal has a context manager like that already (I don't know if it
supports allowin
On 11Jul2014 14:37, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Cameron Simpson wrote:
[... context manager changing NaN comparisons ...]
I'm a bit wary of anything that makes a global, even if temporary,
change to comparisons' behavi
d you elaborate on what ou actually need? And your Python
background, if any.
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To my mind, that constitutes a backtrack: back up, and try a different way (on
the modified cnf and deep_copy).
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import sys
import math
import copy
final_list = []
def sat(cnf):
while( len(cnf) > 1 ):
in_item = single_clause(cnf) #in_i
the stderr of his python subprocess went, but never heard
back.
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On 05Aug2014 07:03, varun...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Cameron. Your post was very helpful. If you don't mind I'd like to
ask you the purpose of the final list in the very beginning of the code. It is
being updated and then checked for the presence of a literal. If a literal is
reason for wanting to know if a directory is empty that I can
imagine is when you want to remove it, and if that applies here it is better to
just try to remove it and ask for forgiveness later.
Disclaimer: Windows may not offer this handy safety net.
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Of course no descri
each object, and a "write" for the separators. There is
no mention of locking.
On that basis, I would find the interleaving described normal and expected. And
certainly not "broken".
Just use a lock! And rebind "print"! Or use the logging system!
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s
might; avoid as many things as possible). Also, the code above uses an RLock;
less prone to deadlock than a plain mutex Lock.
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A host is a host from coast to coast
& no one will talk to a host that's close
Unless the host (that isn't close)
is busy, hung o
On 12Aug2014 09:56, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 12Aug2014 02:07, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
Is this documented somewhere?
In python/2.7.6/reference/simple_stmts.html#index-22, "print" is described
in terms of a "write" for each object, an
g/ and use that.
Maybe he wants Python to run on the emulator? Just an idea...
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Someone who
has used one may correct me here.
import time
time.tzname
('China Standard Time', 'China Daylight Time')
Ok. Have a look at time.timezone. That may help you.
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On 8/14/2014 3:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 14Aug2014 14:52, luofeiyu
allows the strptime parser to keep recognising text. Imagine, for
example, that the timezone were embedded in the middle of the string for some
reason.
It looks like you platform does not support storing the time zone information
in the C library "struct tm", and therefore it does not
ation, too.
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hon version. On some
flavour of Windows I believe.
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a huge web framework!
Write something simple that can run in a console or shell prompt or simple IDE.
But it really does help to solve a (small) problem of interest to yourself.
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find
somewhere (online?)
The Olsen db maps a zone name (a physical region usually not shaped like a
longitude "slice") where a particular legal rule exists for the local time
offset.
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ct.
Please see if that helps you, and if not, come back.
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I can “check” on it when I need to with a tail -f /var/log/mylog.log. But
then I have the problem of managing the log size. And also I either have to
wait for stdout to flush, or insert sys.stdout.flush() after any of my
print()’s.
Log messages should be going to stderr anyway, which by defau
more lightweight
than spawning distinct processes.
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it "o"),
when you call:
o.method_name_here(1,2)
it invokes the function MyClass.method_name_here(o,1,2). So because the string
"no" is an instance of str, the code:
"no".isupper()
runs the function str.isupper("no"), which examines its argument for
u
except IOError:
if fp is not None:
fp.close()
return False
fp.close()
return from_ == 'From '
I would use these is code somewhat like this (imagining your use case):
if ismaildir(path):
...
elif ismhdir(path):
...
elif ismbox(path):
does not
fail outright, it will presumably do the _wrong_ thing.
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People keep assuming injection is all about malice and being hacked. It is not.
It is also about robustness and reliability, and possible silent
failure/misfunction.
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efine it; you need to do so.
After you sort that, you then have a ython problem: you have said "$s" in your
format string, but the python "%" operator expected "%s" in the format string.
Sort these two things and see how things proceed.
Cheers,
Cameron Simpso
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