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> On Jan 29, 4:10 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I have a quibble with the framing:
> >
> > > The rest of the blame lies with installers. They all treat
> > > human-readable scripts like they were binaries and tuck the code
> > > away in a dar
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przemol...@poczta.fm writes:
> On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 10:16:42PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Either way, please don't ask for the subject lines to be munged.
>
> Any technical reason why not ?
No technical reason to my knowledge; but then, I haven't looked for one.
before moving
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> On 11/02/2011 05:42, Ben Finney wrote:
> > What part is inelegant to your eye?
>
> I guess the fact that it exploits the way Python evaluates default
> function arguments to achieve something other than what they were
> intended for.
I see. If that seems l
nually handle the path component separator at all,
and use ‘os.path.join’ to do it correctly. That's exactly what it's
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> However, using ‘__super__’ properly is very problematic.
By which I meant the ‘super’ built-in. Sorry for any resulting
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> On Feb 13, 8:29 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Instead, focus on the issue that's causing you confusion:
> > constructing a filesystem path and testing whether it exists.
> >
> > Make a *minimal* program that shows the problem you're having
meters', am I
> wrong?
You can use the explicit relative import syntax (I don't know if that
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> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:10:38 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The ‘map’ builtin is deprecated;
>
> I don't believe it is. Do you have any evidence for this claim?
I was mis-remembering PEP 3100.
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> Ben Finney writes:
> > It [appeared correctly] in my reader. Perhaps your server has
> > encoding trouble?
>
> He (or rather Google) used iso-8859-7 as a character set, which is the
> Latin/Greek alphabet and definitely has pi at 0xF0. Not exactly
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Vinay Sajip writes:
> On Apr 9, 12:46 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Not quite. As the docs specify, you need to pass the *file
> > descriptors* for the files you want preserved.
>
> Okay, but the docstring you quoted:
>
> "Elements of the list are file descriptors (
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Improvements to the documentation would be welcome, certainly.
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Baz Walter writes:
> On 04/05/10 02:12, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Baz Walter writes:
> >> yes, of course. i forgot about hard links
> >
> > Rather, you forgot that *every* entry that references a file is a
> > hard link.
>
> i'm not a frequent poster o
GPL
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Patrick Maupin writes:
> On May 6, 6:56 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Er, no. Anyone who thinks that a copyleft license “forces” anyone to
> > do anything is mistaken about copyright law
>
> Perhaps you feel "forces" is too loaded of a word. There is no
> question,
Patrick Maupin writes:
> On May 7, 5:33 pm, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Since no-one is forcing anyone to take any of the actions permitted
> > in the license, and since those actions would not otherwise be
> > permitted under copyright law, it's both false and misleadi
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rusade. That doesn't mean we
> should slavishly worship him, though.
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rly if you
> define "give back" as referring to the community rather than the
> original project. With the FSF itself using "pressure" in the FAQ
> entry you linked to, I have no clue why you and Ben Finney object to
> my use of "force".
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a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> >[It is impractical to] sell free software like selling loaves of
> >bread, but that's a much more limited case and a far cry from your
> >claim [that it's impractical to sell free software]. Selling free
ings like setup, support, new code (or time to
> code), etc?
All of the above, depending on the project.
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s a shell parser
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Daniel Fetchinson writes:
> A good example for the first couple of stages of this process is PEP
> 3143 concerning adding a daemon package to the stdlib:
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3143/
Thanks for the shout-out for PEP 3143. I can certainly say that the
process Daniel describes was a
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"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:39 +1000
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good
> > features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of
> > Usenet:
>
&
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000
> Lie Ryan wrote:
> > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List
> > vs Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs.
> > Centralized.
>
> I don'
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>>> opts.out_suffix
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alex23 writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > alex23 writes:
> > > (Although I have to say, I have little sympathy for Steven's
> > > hypothetical "new programmer who isn't familiar with map and
> > > reduce".
> >
> > With ‘reduce’ g
Ben Finney writes:
> No, it wasn't clear at all. That's why I asked, rather than making
> assumptions.
>
> Thanks for clarifying.
It should go without saying, but unfortunately the tenor of this forum
has been worsened (temporarily, I hope) by certain interminable thre
alex23 writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > Thanks for clarifying that you were not expressing the attitude I
> > inferred.
>
> Ah, crap, I didn't see this until now. I _did_ take the wrong meaning
> from it and unfortunately replied accordingly :| So please take this
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