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Göktuğ Kayaalp writes:
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 10:42:23AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Keep the body of “if __name__ == '__main__':” to an absolute
> > minimum. Put all of the set-up and process-end functionality into
> > discrete functions with discrete pur
see it, wholly compatible with making the community more
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c...@isbd.net writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > My request at the moment, though, is not for people to change what's
> > on their slides; rather, if they want people to retrieve them, the
> > slides should be downloadable easily (i.e. without a web app,
> > without
Simon Ward writes:
> On 26 February 2015 00:11:24 GMT+00:00, Ben Finney
> wrote:
> >You'd better borrow the time machine and tell the creators of Unix. The
> >meme is already established for decades now.
>
> 0 = success and non-zero = failure is the meme establ
eatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/02/how-the-english-language-is-holding-kids-back/385291/>.
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> (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2LaJOVAiA> if you have no
> idea what this is all about.)
I was sloppy with my pronouns there. I'm pretty sure Roy knows what he's
referring to; that “you” was directed to anyone who is not aware.
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> Ben Finney wrote:
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> > sohcahto...@gmail.com writes:
> >
> >> I should have known better than to make a joke on this mailing
> >> list. Someone is bound to get their panties all up in a bunch.
> >
> > You should ha
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sohcahto...@gmail.com writes:
> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 3:20:16 PM UTC-8, Ben Finney wrote:
> > It is fine to define such a type in Python, because 'is' does not
> > necessarily imply '=='.
>
> Do you have an example of where `a is b` but `a !=
you describe “define their own membership function”, in order to
get the correct behaviour in the doctest above?
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
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> > “get their panties all up in a bunch” is a gendered slur.
>
> Why do you interpret that as insulting to women merely on the basis of
> being *female*?
I think your question is in bad faith. You know as well as I do, an
Ethan Furman writes:
> On 03/05/2015 06:55 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > class NullType(object):
> > """ A type whose value never equals any other.
> >
> > This type's values will behave correctly when tes
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
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> > Also worth watching is Kallithea, a new federated code hosting service
> > https://kallithea-scm.org/>. It supports Mercurial and Git for VCS,
> > code review, and integrates with existing issue trackers. Becau
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You can blame “lazy users” if you want to. That gets you no new users of
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> What is the reason for this?
I don't really understand. ‘cmp’ is deprecated, and you can compare two
dicts with the built-in operators. That's the reason; are you expecting
some other reason?
> Or is there a better way to do this?
I don't really know what it is you want to do. What behaviour different
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> On 3/29/2015 1:19 PM, John Nagle wrote:
> > On 3/29/2015 12:11 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> >> John Nagle writes:
> >>> The Python 3 documentation at
> >>> https
Paul Rubin writes:
> Ben Finney writes:
> > Why are you discussing it as though Python 3 is at fault? What do you
> > expect to change *about Python 3* that would address the perceived
> > problem? Whose responsibility is it to do that?
>
> Those questions seem un
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> I've been trying for hours to get ElementTree to give me these 2
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Beat the designers of that document upside the head until they give you
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> Assuming we're talking about a ‘float’ value::
>
> >>> foo = 5.223701009526849e-05
> >>> "{foo:5.1}".format(foo=foo)
> '5e-05'
That's not as clear as it could be. Better is to be explicit about
choos
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Rob Gaddi writes:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:35:02 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Rob Gaddi writes:
> >
> >> B) If I can't manage that, what's the etiquette behind having later
> >> versions of a module break compatibility with older versions of
>
Here is a course on problem solving with algorithms that uses Python
http://interactivepython.org/runestone/static/pythonds/index.html>.
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