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> > This resulted in a library for rolling dice in different
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> > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/alea>.
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> Fun fun! Of course, when I hear "rolling dice in different
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> On Jun 15, 5:16 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Is a web browser a “typical desktop app”? A filesystem browser? An
> > instant messenger? A file transfer application? A podcatcher? All of
> > those typically run for months at a time on my desktop.
> >
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> > it's different from what I'd call a “Python program”. So I just
> > mentally replace “scripting with “prog
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> I am currently doing some research on testing software for Python. I
> found that there are many different types of testing tools. These are
> what I've found.
You will find these discussed at the Python Testing Tools Taxonomy
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> >> My sole point, really, is that "normally", one would expect these two
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And when the real domain to be modelled almost certainly has people as a
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That's not a license for such behaviour, but an observation on its
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I'd say that so long as you phrase your assertions to indicate the level
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> > lipska the kat writes:
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> >> On 23/08/12 05:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >>> I think that's uncalled for.
> > […]
> >
> >> Excellent advice as usual, but I
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> No offence to Ben Finney, but I think sometimes he's a bit too eager
> to emphasise the subtle differences between Python and other
> languages, rather than the similarities.
No offense taken.
> Again, context is important:
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> string I/O rather than file I/O, etc.
I don't know of any real-life code which would be significantly improved
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> > On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:29:05 +0200, Christian Heimes wrote:
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> > > def opener(file, flags):
> > > return os.open(file, flags | os.O_EXCL)
>
> why not c
more Pythonic, expose those numeric modes using strings:
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> open(file, 'wx')
Which is, indeed, another improvement in Python 3.3 – the ‘x’ mode for
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Howdy all,
Where can I find a standard implementation of the docstring parsing and
splitting algorithm from PEP 257?
PEP 257 describes a convention of structure and formatting for
docstrings http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/>. Docstrings
that conform to this convention can therefore be pa
Joel Goldstick writes:
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> > On 9/17/2012 10:03 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> >> Where can I find a standard implementation of the docstring parsing
> >> and splitting algorithm from PEP 257?
>
> Do you know abo
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