ther.
Should the Python community really care about this, I suspect Eclipse
might be the best way.
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ch has some good and bad
features, I suppose.
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ict, key)
>listappend(mydict, key, value)
That seems like a reasonable compromise.
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classes that express a lot of action in a small a
nother issue is that general problem-solving skills
do increase with experience. I also think that programming ability
tracks reading/writing ability to at least some extent, and while there
are child prodigies with language, they seem to be rarer than smaller
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sure something there will strike
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"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
not in
, but a large portion of
that will go away in Python 3.0. So where's the abandonment of the
ideal?
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"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of actio
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sunnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [Aahz]
>>>>
>>>>"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
>>>>classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
&
ock.acquire()
self.counter += self.increment
i = self.counter
self.lock.release()
return i
There are several tricks one can use to squeeze further efficiency gains
from this, including using Lock() instead of RLock().
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t because I
>can't understand customization even without going through a hundred
>menus that might contain the thing I am looking for (or I could go
>learn another language just to customize!).
Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Aahz]
>> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>No doubt it once was true, but I guess this ideal has been
>>>ab
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Aahz]
>> [François]
>>>
>>>Many of us are using Python today, week after week, year long. So
>>>let's be pragmatic. Python is what it became and
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Aahz]
>>
>> I'll agree that Python currently has many examples of more than one
>> way to do things (and even Python 3.0 won't remove every example
>>
ect
>in thinking that in Python this usage is actually considered quite
>normal, and not frowned upon? Is my snippet above indeed sufficiently
>Pythonic?
Consider the use of StopIteration for ``for`` loops, and you will be
Enlightened.
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"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concis
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
>>
>> Use vim. 80% of the power of emacs at 20% of the learning curve.
>
>Hmm. Can I read mail/news/web pages in vim? I can in emacs.
Yup, that's why
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"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concis
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>
>I'd like to remove keys from a dictionary, which are not found in a
>specific set. So it's kind of an intersection-operation.
Why not just use the builtin set operati
e primary reason for creating docs.python.org was to make Google
searches easier. I believe the eventual intent is to make that the
official URL, but there were some glitches in setting it up and I'm not
sure whether they've been completely ironed out.
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meeting the *SECOND* Thursday. This will be our first meeting at Google,
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argue that you disagree with mapping ``+=`` to ``extend()``, but I don't
think it's fair for you to flatly claim that it's a design mistake.
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quot;
>
># ...
>
>if (something_fubar):
>fo = "another string"
>
>Oops, the last 'o' slipped, now we have a different object and the
>interpreter will happily continue executing the flawed program.
pychecker (or pylint, but I haven't tried that)
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"hiding" an implementation detail by prefixing
>it with the classname so you can't access it by its name anymore? Gimme
>a break...), but is that a reason to only write white box classes? ^^
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>to see when a context switch occurs, is this possible? The reason for
>this is I will have threads deadlocked waiting for I/O and I am
>interested to see how often context switching occurs.
You'd have to write some kind of logging. You can use the logging
module.
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I've added them back in for you]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Carl J. Van Arsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz:
>>Carl Van Arsdall:
>>>
>>> 1. Who schedules which thre
f it makes sense to me, that will likely go a long way
toward making sense to Guido -- we seem to think similarly in certain
ways.)
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y to do it".
Actually, I've gotten used to doing
python -c 'import this'
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>(Part of) Python's credo (which you can read in context by
;whilst dealing with different languages and toolkits. I'd rather have
>such functionality controlled with mostly declarative constructs, and
>with as few moving parts on the client as possible.
But Google is doing it! It must be cool!!! And if it means that Lynx
breaks, well, that&#
be the correct tool for the job.
What the warning actually means is that the only shared object between
threads should be a Queue; you pass other objects between threads using
the Queue, so that only one thread at a time uses the non-Queue objects.
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ary
>just another queued command request caused both the dictionary read
>and write to be performed by the same thread. This seems to have
>eliminated the problem.
Great!
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"Don't listen to schm
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenneth McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I recently had need to write the following code:
>
> def compileOuter(self):
> if False: yield None
> else: return
What's wrong with
def foo():
if
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
>>
>> What's wrong with
>>
>> def foo():
>> if False: yield None
>
>Does the following work?
>
>def foo():
a variant on the previous suggestion
of hash:
[a] -> [hash(a), index(a), a]
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ory of Computer Associates and a few
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that point, we'll give ya'll the option of giving
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"Given that C++ has pointers and typecasts, it's really ha
t; with Guido. ;-) Guido hates
macros. Oddly enough, my impression is that macros are popular only in
the Lisp community, and they may well be part of the reason Lisp has
never become popular.
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"Given that C
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Do you have any specific comments towards Logix's implementation?
Nope. I do know that Guido is generally in favor of Python-like
languages, and one of the goals of the AST project was to make that
easier
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>I keep asking myself why isn't this more popular
rent from the guild system.
Unfortunately, this isn't quite true. Medicine and law both require the
passing of an apprenticeship, so there's still some room for favoritism
and blackballing.
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"
ys of targets.
No matter how you slice it ;-), a list does not actually hold objects, it
only holds references to objects.
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ce, and
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"19. A language that doesn't affect the way you
at for suggesting exactly that! :-)
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/fa453d925b912917
>
>how-come-aahz-didn't-shout-at-you-ly'yrs,
Because I've been busy. I'd been saving Skip's post for when I had
enough time to do it justice, but your URL s
bjects and references are really two
completely different things in Python.
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ut 97% certain that my lack of degree played little
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okes not doctor
>jokes?
While it may not have the same intensity or duration as medical
internship, lawyers are typically required to serve an internship before
being permitted to go into independent practice.
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error invoking COM method.
>
>Where should this sort of thing be reported?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/
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"19. A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming,
is not
ause AFAIK, there are no
>interfaces for Python to the likes of IBM's MQSeries or for any
>distributed transaction managers.
What about http://www.zope.org/Members/tim_one/spread/
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pectation is for the size of the two lists.
(None of the uses were created by me -- I abhor map(). ;-)
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simply the rich detail of a data structure.
Yup. I sometimes say in such cases that the object is a proxy for some
other object (sometimes real-world, sometimes not -- as in the case of a
GUI object).
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"19
o?
Yes, we're having problems with the build system. Nothing to see here,
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly
served
popularity amongst the novices and apprentices, who should know
better than to use this magic incantation casually.
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefo
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz, citing Guido:
>>
>>__slots__ is a terrible hack with nasty, hard-to-fathom side
>>effects that should only be used by programmers at grandmaster and
>>wizard levels. Unfortunately it has gai
cs.python.org/ref/slots.html#l2h-217 and don't
>see anyplace where it says, "Warning: for use by wizards only".
Unfortunately, the Python docs are currently suboptimal when it comes to
new-style classes.
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to
>program under Python?
Windows is an excellent environment for Python! Just Do It. ;-)
(Despite the prepronderence of Linux programmers in the dev team, there
are probably more Windows Python programmers than for any other OS,
simply because there are more Windows users.)
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s a little bit of an overstatement,
admittedly, but not much of one.) There is also lots of incorrect
information.
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you wr
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fabian Braennstroem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am looking for a python email client for the terminal... something like
>mutt; maybe, so powerfull ;-)
What's wrong with mutt?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:15:08PM EDT, Aahz wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Fabian Braennstroem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>I am looking for a pytho
f tasteless heathens that "we" have invented.
>It just sounds like so much trivial nitpickery that it's hard to
>believe it's as common as we've come to believe.
When I put on my Python evangelist hat, I do get complaints about that
regularly.
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sadmins claim that it's less secure. I'm not competent to judget
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the fir
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.motss/msg/a41fbe0c17342f46
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
defi
und to bite me
>down the road).
I'm not sure why it's coded that, but it's somewhat irrelevant: right
now, work is being done to convert decimal.py to C code, which will
almost certainly be much faster than your code. Generally speaking, you
should not be using Decimal now
two or three years,
but somehow it never has gotten enough concerted attention to make it
happen. I'm sure that experience informed much of the Infrastructure
Committee's work.
I suspect in the end that if four or five people who are known to follow
through on their commitments voluntee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>
>But they do about 10 things totally wrong with Google groups that
>I'd've fixed in my spare time in my first week if they'd hired me back
>when I was interviewing with them
e any copyright on the posts, or other special protection.
>I'm a former Googler myself and I use their service all the time,
>but if yours is better I'll switch.
The problem is the network effect. In this case, what Google has that
can't be replicated is the history of posts.
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if schema.elements.has_key(key) is False:
Sorry, just had to vent.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Oct 6, 6:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote:
>>
>> The following line of lightly munged code was found in a publicly
>> available Python library...
>
>Yes, this violates the Holy,
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On Oct 6, 6:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote:
>>>>
>>&g
lling nor flaming, I think I
>deserve a little bit more of respect.
IMO, regardless of whether you are trolling or flaming, you are certainly
being disrespectful. Why should we treat you with any more respect than
you give others?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John J. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
>>
>> The following line of lightly munged code was found in a publicly
>> available Python library...
>>
>> if schema.elements.has_key(key) i
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Giovanni Bajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz wrote:
>> Giovanni removed his own attribution:
>>>
>>> Are you ever going to try and make a point which is not "you are not
>>> entitled to have opinions because
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 2006-10-08, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John J. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes:
>>>>
&
e names because of the way they cause problems
with inheritance.
PS: Please do NOT post code with TABs
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Do yourself a favor at least and switch to using double-quotes for the
string. I also recommend switching to triple-quotes to avoid the
backslash continuation.
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t it complicates pickling
if/when you store the stentinel in an instance. There are ways of
working around that, but none are pleasant.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Beliavsky> English is a rich language, and there are better ways of
>Beliavsky> doing that.
>
>aahz> Oh, gimme a fucking break.
>
>I'm with Beliavsky on this one. I can't
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>and yes, has anyone seen Aahz or his OSCON2001 thread tutorial slides
>lately ? as noticed here:
>
> http://effbot.org/pyfaq/how-do-i-program-using-threads.htm
>
>they have disappea
ntification "numbers" should be kept as strings.
>
>Do you mean that ID numbers that serve as a primary key in a database
>should also be strings?
Depends. If they are strictly internal, ints are fine. But if they
interact with the outside world, they should be string
ut what's now called BofA is simply the current name of the bank
that acquired BofA.
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ide the technical expertise and editing), and
after a suitable resting time, we'll see if we can get back on track
with _Effective Python_
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grammer would probably hoist it out of the
loop because you should hoist ALL constant assignments out of a loop.
(It's not particularly related to re.compile() in this case.)
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"I saw `cout' being shifte
;m saying that if you crash it, it's a
>bug unless proven harebrained."""
IIRC, this has been discussed before and deemed harebrained. Check SF to
see whether this specific case has been submitted previously and submit
it if not. Then post to python-dev if it's a n
you'll find it is handled faster than random data.
>
>But isn't that how a reasonable sorting algorithm should behave? Less
>work to do if the data is already sorted?
Read some of the old discussions in the python-dev archives.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik Max Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rene Pijlman wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia always tells the Absolute Truth, because if it doesn't, we can
>> edit it and fix it right away.
>
>Tell that to John Seigenthaler.
Rene
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jiba wrote:
>
>Cerealizer is now available under the Python license (and was
>previously GPL'ed).
Nothing except for Python itself should be released under the Python
license. See
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSoftwareFoundationLicense
gt;of concurrent programming, so I'd like someone to help me find some
>problems in my implementation.
Try using threading.local(), but you'll need 2.4 or later.
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"I saw `cout' being sh
b,2)
>0.67004
>
>Inspite of specifying 2 in 2nd attribute of round, it outputs all the
>digits after decimal.
You should also consider switching to the decimal module if you care
about getting correct results.
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the other advice you've been given, if you really
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"I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped
right
ebody that would let me run Debian on a VPS.
http://www.panix.com/corp/virtuals/vservers.html
Unfortunately, it's not being as well advertised as it should be, but
Panix is definitely one of the class operators.
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&
ython implementation detail. Other implementations are free to use
other mechanisms -- and they do.
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rs Python 2.5. (Alex's _Python in a Nutshell_
does cover some of Python 2.5, but there were a fair number of late
changes that came after he needed to turn it in, most notably the
inclusion of sqlite3. It's also not a beginner book.)
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slots__ is fine as long as you don't actually use
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"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
def
o Java 5, which
>was released around... what, 2-3 years ago? (While I am running Java 6
>at home)
My company uses 2.2 and 2.3; we hope to drop 2.2 Real Soon Now.
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ection only gets used for objects that refer to other
objects, so it would only apply if string refcounts are being held by
GC-able objects.
Also keep in mind, of course, that deleting objects has nothing to do
with whether the memory gets overwritten...
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> My company uses 2.2 and 2.3; we hope to drop 2.2 Real Soon Now.
>
>This has been an interesting thread. There has been some discussion
>on
etween
2.5 and earlier versions for the benefit of people needing to target
earlier or multiple versions.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Hugunin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>I'm extremely happy to announce that we have released IronPython 1.0 today!
> http://www.codeplex.com/IronPython
Congrats!
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o fetch/read/install anything additional.
>
>Doing the DB-API would be much stronger, but might be overkill in your
>situation.
Once Python 2.5 comes out, I recommend using sqlite because it avoids
the mess that dbm can cause.
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