Thanks a lot for all the suggestions. I´m ising IDLE and trying to get
into eclipse.
Cheers,
Nick
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> Hi,
>
> Complete newb to Python and programming, looking for an open source
> IDE to download. Any suggestions?
>
d of "going", "bonny lass"
instead of "pretty girl". The question "Do you know what I mean?"
expressed phonetically in Geordie (one of the north-eastern dialects)
becomes "Ya knaa what ah mean, leik?"
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which will prevent you from looking at any output. Unless the
program has a GUI, running it from the command-line is usually better
than double-clicking it in a file browser.
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;COLTABLE'):
newtable = coltable_to_rowtable(table)
## this is what I can't figure out
doc.replace(table, newtable)
output.write(doc.toxml('utf-8'))
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious, but haven't been able
to find any examples.
Someone please whack m
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I knew it had to be something simple (but not as simple as I am,
apparently :^).
Thanks much, Max, you've saved the rest of my day.
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ll for instance methods
as it does for class or static methods.
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from types import ClassType
class namespace(object):
"""
namespace([namespace|dict]) => object
namespace objects provide attribute access t
e to do it.
So long as the committee consists of one member who has the initials GvR and is
known as the Python BDFL, we should be OK ;)
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the standard library offer many examples of both situations.
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rridden, and the augmented assignment magic method is a convenience to allow
the rebinding case of that operation to be optimised.
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Do I really want to add another PEP to the snoozing PEP 338, though?
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Op 2005-02-05, Nick Coghlan schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[ ... ]
With a rebinding operator, the intent of the last line can be made explicit:
def collapse(iterable):
it = iter(iterable)
lastitem = it.next()
yield lastitem
for item in it:
i
ybe a RESTORE_FAST could.
STORE_FAST is set up to store a local as fast as is reasonably possible. The
space for the local is preallocated in the fast locals C array. How is an
instruction which does that *and something else* ever meant to be faster?
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to looking them).
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Just wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:ons already existing.
The compilor might generate a RESTORE instruction.
Whether it is done as a LOAD/STORE or a RESTORE, it has to perform the same
work
- check the name exists
operation *theoretically* be quicker for the other cases which
involve a real dictionary (or something that looks like one)? Well, perhaps.
Although I can't see how the rebinding operation would gain a benefit that a
standard binding operation wouldn't gain if placed at the exact same point.
C
Michael Spencer wrote:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
The other issue is that a namespace *is* a mutable object, so the
default behaviour should be to make a copy
I don't follow this argument. Why does mutability demand copy? Given
that somedict here is either a throwaway (in the classic
o write a quick script in Perl because Python isn't
ubiquitous enough around here, and I often find myself thinking I
the opposite... "Perl just isn't cutting it."
And I spent several years putting food on the table with Perl, so it's
not like I'm a noob with Perl.
Ni
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> is it possible to write python code without any indentation?
Not if Turing-completeness is something you desire.
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s the use of class definition syntax for
simple data structures
- lookup chaining, allowing fallback to an 'outer scope'.
Even though we'll probably end up dropping the last couple as overengineering
things for the first pass, they're still interesting ideas t
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 2005-02-08, Nick Coghlan schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The CPython *_FAST opcodes relate to functions' local variables. Behind the
scenes they are implemented as integer indexing operations into a pre-sized C
array. Operations don't come much faster than
er than globals, generic objects would work for
using those, too.
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Alex Martelli wrote:
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For bindings, you could just go with standard Python semantics - normal
name binding always happens in the innermost scope, so binding a name in a
namespace should happen in the directly referenced namespace. Then you can
shadow
an one nested if statement due to the 'problem' of not
being to do an embedded assignment.
*shrug* The issue has never really bothered me in practice. Heck, I often don't
use nested assignment even in C, since the buggers can be so damn hard to read.
That's mainly due to
'alternative patterns' case:
if m using foo_pattern.search(subject) as m:
pass
elif m using bar_pattern.search(subject) as m:
pass
else:
pass
(Y'know, I'm pretty sure the impetus was regexp matching the *last*
5ÛHH575-UAZWKVVP-7H2H48V3 wrote:
class Foo(list):
"Foo"
def __init__(self, l=[]):
Change this too:
def __init__(self, l=None):
if l is None: l = []
And see if your problem goes away.
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is actually zip(*tuple(zip(*tuple(iterable. That's
potentially an awful lot of data copying for an identity operation :)
Anyway, I think it does make a decent case for an itertools.iunzip or some such
beast.
Cheers,
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'syntactic sugar' on these pages. All high level
languages (Python included) are nothing but syntactic sugar designed to
conceal the ugliness of what actually gets sent to the CPU to make it all
happen.
Yup, you're right. But 'syntactic sugar' often isn't used in a negat
That module is. . .
a) impressive
b) very, very, wrong
c) both a) and b)
I think I'm voting for c). . .
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obscured.
x.=42 vsx:=42
seems a clear win for the second IMO.
I'm forced to agree. So I'll use the latter syntax if I end up writing anything
further about rebinding :)
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r, g, b = col = dict(r = 4, g = 3, b = 12).values()
The dict-based implementation means named tuples they ain't :)
However, the namespaces module *would* provide a natural location for a
NamedTuple class.
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ent
looking function call.
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ce. If you actually copied them, they'd be
bound to the *old* instance, rather than the new one.
So I expect you'll need to provide a __deepcopy__ in order to correctly generate
the instancemethods bound to the new instance.
I also realised that the reason the use of a mutable default is OK here is
Hmm, I'm not so sure about this. I think that the right model is the way that a
class instance is currently chained with its class.
That is, assume we have the following:
c = cls()
ns = Namespace(vars(c), vars(cls)) # Using modified NS above
nc = NamespaceChain(Namespace(vars(c)), Nam
Lists (i.e. namespaces with a defined
field order)
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David Isaac wrote:
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Using zip(*[iter(l)]*N) or zip(*(iter(l),)*N) simply extends the above to
the
general case.
Clearly true.
But can you please go into much more detail for a newbie?
I see that [iter(l)]
;.
The first is better when you do know the name of the module you want at coding
time, but the latter is handy when you want to be dynamic about it.
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ame"
True
Py> "long_and_really_complicated_non_var_name" is "long_and_really_complicated_n
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True
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ted_non_v
Peter Maas wrote:
I think that a new config utility is worth the effort if it has the
potential to put an end to roll-your-own config formats and parsers.
http://www.python.org/moin/ConfigParserShootout
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UTF-8 data? WTF do you need
a byte order marker for when you have 8-bit data?"
It also clarifies Martin's comment about the UTF-8 codec ignoring the existence
of this piece of silliness :)
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ting the docs to include that information would probably be a
bigger issue, as it involves behaviour which is currently not defined by the
library.
Cheers,
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[1] http://www.python.org/dev/doc/devel/lib/built-in-funcs.html
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other highlights are:
NamespaceView supports Namespace instances in the constructor
NamespaceChain inherits from NamespaceView (as per my last message about that)
LockedView is a new class that supports 'locking' a namespace, so you can only
modify existing names, and cannot add or remove
descriptor machinery a bit further
in order to design a lookup scheme that is most appropriate for namespaces, but
the above example has convinced me that object.__getattribute__ is NOT it :)
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
Py> class NS(namespaces.Namespace):
... x = prop
...
Oops - c&p error here. This was actually:
Py> class NS(namespaces.Namespace):
... x = prop
... __x__ = prop
...
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designed to be inheritance
friendly.
Though I'd like it to have a shorter name. I'm lazy.
'from namespaces import Namespace as ns' :)
I thought about suggesting simply 'space' as a name, but I think that's way too
vague. We're using it as a namespace, so we migh
David Isaac wrote:
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A bug report on Sourceforge would help in getting the problem fixed for
the 2.5
docs
Done.
Bug 1121416, for anyone else interested. Looks Raymond agrees with me about the
left-to-rig
more familiar with the guts of copy.py than
I am might be able to give a better answer if they happen to see the question.
Cheers,
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Try this:
print "Hit a key!"
cekaj()
print "Nap time!"
time.sleep(15)
print "Hit another key!"
cekaj()
with the two different implementations, and see what happens if you hit a key
when the 'Nap Time!' prompt appears.
Cheers,
Nick.
P.S. You probably act
27;y.z': 1}
Py> vars(ns.y)
{'x': <__main__.C object at 0x009EB8D0>}
Py> vars(ns.y.x)
{'z': 2}
Combined with the update change, it means this code does the right thing:
Py> settings = {
... "x" : 1,
... "y" : namespaces.Namespace(),
nt(10**i)
...
10.000 bytes
10.000 bytes
10.000 kilobytes
9.766 kibibytes
10.000 megabytes
9.537 mebibytes
10.000 gigabytes
9.313 gibibytes
10.000 terabytes
9.095 tebibytes
10.000 petabytes
8.882 pebibytes
10.000 exabytes
8.674 ebibytes
10.000 zettabytes
8.470 zebibytes
10.000 yottabytes
8.272 yobibyte
kes for better
marketing copy. . .
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
class Namespace(object):
# etc
def _update_dict(self, other):
for k in other:
setattr(self, k, other[k])
This doesn't work, as it doesn't allow the sequence of 2-tuples. So I copied the
relevant check for a keys() attr
d in the
last couple of paragraphs simple and easy to use, rather than on a misguided
effort to "Kill the GIL".
Cheers,
Nick.
P.S. If the GIL *really* bothers you, check out Stackless Python. As I
understand it, it does its best to avoid the C stack (and hence thread
Michael Hoffman wrote:
This is a fairly friendly group and they will answer even
newbie questions amicably.
Albeit with the occasional pointed comment about not at least skimming the
tutorial when it covers the question asked ;)
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code - it's 'exbi' not 'ebi':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#IEC_standard_prefixes
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it as often as I do).
What do people think? I have never done this, would I just write up a PEP?
I've posted a question to py-dev about it. If Raymond (the itertools maintainer)
is supportive, then a PEP may not be needed. If not. . . yeah, a PEP would
probably be required.
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to a different platform without having to port the far more platform
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model for communication between different parts of the system)
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nge the hash method to use the size of the file or something else that has to
be equal for the comparison to be equal (like the hash of the first line, or of
the entire file), and you should see much better behaviour.
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where avoiding the ambiguity tends to matter more -
in a conversation, if the difference actually matter, you can just ask. With a
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a) Patches are more likely to be looked at if placed on the SF patch
tracker.
b) I don't quite see the point, given how easy these are to spell using the
basic safe_substitute. You're replacing one liners with one-liners.
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or the data-handling backend. Data files are portable
between machine architectures and within major version numbers, and it
avoids a lot of the setup and maintanence of the database systems
mentioned above (no need for a running server process, etc).
http://sqlite.org/
Just a happy user,
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a) Patches are more likely to be looked at if placed on the SF patch
tracker.
see your own b), I wanted to discuss them first.
Fair enough.
Still, when I first tried out the Template class, I immediately stumbled
over the fact that the substitute methods
and I would
like to know about this potential problem.
If you want to do force a conversion before the join, you can use a
list comp:
', '.join([str(x) for x in l])
Nick "Explicit is better than Implicit"
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e found too many weird corner cases we weren't quite sure
what to do with. At that point, "explicit is better than implicit" kicked in :)
A shame, since it was both faster and more convenient than using a list comp.
But the convenience wasn't worth the ambiguity of the s
e item 1: expected string, int found
Which pretty much supports my initial argument -- if a non-string got
into the list, something needs to be fixed, and it isn't the behavior
of the join() method!
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f the available
options.
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news.sydney.pipenetworks.com wrote:
Nick Vargish wrote:
"news.sydney.pipenetworks.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Really ? Then why are you using python.
Try "import this" at a Python prompt. I didn't invent "Explicit is
better than implicit."
Thank
and learning that this is a community of intelligent, friendly,
humorous, and insightful people. Come with suggestions, and not
demands. Show us how you would like a community to behave, instead of
acting like we owe you something.
That's how we make the world a better place.
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> studying philosophy for 15 years ?
Sort of an extended break, really. Every year I plan to finish up, but
then can't find the time and/or money to do it.
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at's a long way away, though.
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I'm compelled to point out that PEAK should still be considered a 'work in
progress', but PJE's ideas should help you out :)
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cation global it's wrong. Given the nature of
the question, I suspect the latter.
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b"" to get
a byte string instead of a character string.
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a (+ 1 2 3 4))
Which language has the lower barrier for entry? That should be a fairly
important consideration for a language that is going to sit at the heart of an OS.
Cheers,
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Paul Rubin wrote:
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Compare out-of-the-box Python:
a = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4
And out-of-the-box Lisp:
(setq a (+ 1 2 3 4))
Which language has the lower barrier for entry? That should be a
fairly important consideration for a language that is going to sit
e a bytes builtin which is a mutable byte sequence
Alternately, add array.bytes as a subclass of array.array, that provides a nicer
API for dealing specifically with byte strings.
The main point being, the replacement for 'str' needs to be immutable or the
upgrade
er than providing diff's and submitting appropriate patches to improve MinGW
support in the main Python CVS. *shrug* Their call.
Cheers,
Nick.
P.S. if Ilias volunteers, or offers to pay someone to do this, instead of just
complaining, will hell freez
the BDFL gave for preferring 'open' - it may be extended to
opening other types of objects than files.
Cheers,
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needs to discuss: What happens to __str__ and
__unicode__? Is there a new __bytes__ slot?
I wonder if Skip is still up for championing this one. . .
Cheers,
Nick.
One PEP's enough for me (even though 338 doesn't seem to generate much interest)
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"BrainDead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe that you are wasting your time. Looking at your email
> address, this may well be relevant.
[ 4-line URL snipped ]
Thanks for the historical reference. Please consider a visit to
tinyurl.com before posting a monster
ts, but you don't get to
unilaterally declare a discussion over.
Just not how it works, though in this case an exception might be
welcomed...
Nick
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kind of tedious. I use an open-source terminal app (iTerm under OS X),
so I guess I could hack the "open in browser" function to remove the
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Side projects aside, URLs less than 79 characters long are just easier
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That's beautiful }:>
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seq = [elem for (key, i, elem) in seq]
if reverse:
seq.reverse()
return seq
list = mysort([[3,'fork',0.3,1],[2,'fork',0.1,2],[3,'exec',0.2,2]],
key=lambda x: x[0])
(Taken from Raymond's code in:
http://mail
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p.s. the reason I'm not sticking to reversed or even reverse : suppose
the size of the list is huge.
Reversed is an iterator - it does NOT copy the list. In other words, reversed
already does pretty much what you want.
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unity.
To really get a sense of the Python "community" (at least the Usenet
branch), you should see how it responds to typical questions and
requests for help. The response you received is not really typical,
because your attitude has been atypical.
Just sayin',
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[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
Those benchmarks I mentioned earlier will let you know which approach is best.
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27; are the names of the * and ** arguments or None.
'defaults' is an n-tuple of the default values of the last n arguments.
Don't-forget-the-std-lib'ly,
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which doesn't depend on the functions arguments inside a 'use' block. For
modules, data structures initialised inside a using block could simply be
unmarshalled rather than built anew.
Cheers,
Nick.
P.S. I didn't search the archive, because I couldn
"Harlin Seritt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ?
#!/bin/sh
ping $1
Enjoy,
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orth having, finding a decent syntax is the next trick :)
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
Basically, yeah. Although I later realised I got the name of the feature
I want wrong - default arguments are evaluated when the def statement is
executed, not when the code is compiled. So it's a matter of being able
to execute some code in the functions local namespa
structures.
All it would take to make it happen is a PEP, an implementation and a champion
with some persuasive ability :)
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instead of the bytecode. If that happens, they
might become less hackish.
So I guess I should wait and see what the next few months holds in terms of
AST-hacks :)
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Dan Bishop wrote:
Your statement is misleading, because it suggests that your processor
stores digits. It doesn't; it stores *bits*.
And where does the word 'bit' come from, hmm? It couldn't possibly be an
abbreviation of Binary digIT, could it?
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ly lost. Actually making it happen needs someone to step up and
offer a patch to the relevant C code and documentation, though.
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hon module/package that implements that?
Just
Does SciPy do what you want? Specifically Scientific.Functions.FindRoot [1] &
Scientific.Functions.Polynomial [2]
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[1]
http://starship.python.net/~hinsen/ScientificPython/ScientificPythonManual/Scientific_9.html
[2]
http://starship.pyth
?
Actually, I was curious whether the 'zeros' method in [2] did the right
thing.
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people to
start out by at least skimming the freaking tutorial. . .
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ension:
Py> "".join([c for c in 'The Beatles - help - 03 - Ticket to ride' if c.isalpha(
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'TheBeatleshelpTickettoride'
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