According to apt-get I have the latest (1.32.0-6) Debian boost libraries, and
bjam version (3.1.10-1) correctly installed.
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Marshall wrote:
>
> Again, I disagree: it is posible to have mutability without
> pointers/identity/objects.
I think you are wrong, but before I make a complete ass out of myself,
I have to ask what you mean by `mutability'. (And
pointers/identity/objects, for that matter.)
Alan Bawden discusse
Note that any good SAX tutorial will demonstrate how to buffer the
characters() events, if you don't feel like reinventing the solution
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Marshall wrote:
>
> Consider the following Java fragment:
>
> void foo() {
> int i = 0;
> int j = 0;
>
> // put any code here you want
>
> j = 1;
> i = 2;
> // check value of j here. It is still 1, no matter what you filled in
> above.
> // The assignment to i cannot be made to affec
Marshall wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
> > Marshall wrote:
> > >
> > > Consider the following Java fragment:
> > >
> > > void foo() {
> > > int i = 0;
> > > int j = 0;
> > >
> > > // put any code here you want
Marshall wrote:
>
> I am having a hard time with this very broad definition of aliasing.
How about this definition: Consider three variables, i, j, and k, and
a functional equivalence predicate (EQUIVALENT(i, j) returns true if
for every pure function F, F(i) = F(j)). Now suppose i and j are
EQ
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2006-07-24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>>Logs of the serial traffic would be helpful.
>>
>>Here they are. First a log of the traffic generated by the
>>T-logger GUI program, abtained with Portmon.
>
>
> I try to avoid Windows as much as humanly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need my udp server to send an ACK back to the client when it
> successfully receives data from the client to let it know not to retry
> the send (yes, I do know this is how TCP works but must be in UDP)
> I am using this example code I found on the net for the server,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need my udp server to send an ACK back to the client when it
> successfully receives data from the client to let it know not to retry
> the send (yes, I do know this is how TCP works but must be in UDP)
> I am using this example code I found on the net for the server,
John J. Lee wrote:
> The fact that "open classes" are apparently thought to be a good thing
> in Ruby puzzles (and worries) me.
This objection strikes me as having the same
nature as, "Python's lack of strong protection for
class members puzzles (and worries) me". The Pythonic
answer to that obj
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes, you were right it was already there (sorry, my mistake), the
> bigger problem is how do I send an ack packet
Look at the docs for socket.sendto(). Of course, deciding
what data should be in your "ACK" packet is for you to decide.
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H J van Rooyen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am struggling to get the pack method to do what I intend.
> I am trying to display user input in a seperate window, along with
> a little description of the field, something like this:
>
> Current entry
> Company : entered co. name
> F
John Henry wrote:
>
>>Carl,
>> OS writers provide much more tools for debugging, tracing, changing
>>the priority of, sand-boxing processes than threads (in general) It
>>*should* be easier to get a process based solution up and running
>>andhave it be more robust, when compared to a threaded sol
John Salerno wrote on 08/12/06 21:44:
> Alan Connor wrote:
>
>> So. You post using three different newsservers, which no one who
>> posts under the same alias all the time does.
>>
>> And there are virtually no Linux groups in your posting history
>> for the last year.
>
> Wow, you need some he
class Bunch(object): def __init__(self, **fields): self.__dict__ = fields p = Bunch(x=2.3, y=4.5)print p
print p.__dict__I dont' understand the usage of the double * here, could anyone explain it for me? thanks.
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joe Li wrote:> **class Bunch(object):> def __init__(self, **fields):
> self.__dict__ = fields>> p = Bunch(x=2.3, y=4.5)> print p>
I saw the following code, but I don't understand the rule for virtual function that appears in two basesCould anyone explain it for me, thanks.class Base1: def amethod(self): print "Base1"
class Base2(Base1): passclass Base3: def amethod(self): print "Base3"class Derived(Base2,
hing like it.
That seems to be about STM (Software Transactional Memory). What you're
describing seems to be read lock-free using what I call PDR
(PCOW (Partial Copy On Write) Deferred Reclaimation). Examples of PDR
are RCU (used in Linux kernel), Maged Michael's SMR hazard pointers,
and
Ross Ridge wrote:
> Joe Seigh wrote:
>
>>Basically there's a race condition where an object containing the
>>refcount can be deleted between the time you load a pointer to
>>the object and the time you increment what used to be a refcount
>>and is possibly some
fender Problem), a form of PDR, and one using DCAS (compare and swap
of two separate locations) which only exists on MC68020 and MC68030
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themselves
>>sufficient to make reference counting safe."
>
>
[...]
>
> The problem your describing isn't that reference counting hasn't been
> made safe. What you and Joe seem to be trying to say is that atomic
> increment and decrement instructions al
Xah Lee wrote:
> in March, i posted a essay "What is Expressiveness in a Computer
> Language", archived at:
> http://xahlee.org/perl-python/what_is_expresiveness.html
>
> I was informed then that there is a academic paper written on this
> subject.
>
> On the Expressive Power of Programming Langua
Chris Smith wrote:
>
> Knowing that it'll cause a lot of strenuous objection, I'll nevertheless
> interject my plea not to abuse the word "type" with a phrase like
> "dynamically typed".
Allow me to strenuously object. The static typing community has its
own set of
terminology and that's fine.
Chris Smith wrote:
> Joe Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Chris Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > Knowing that it'll cause a lot of strenuous objection, I'll nevertheless
> > > interject my plea not to abuse the word "type&quo
Chris Smith wrote:
> Joe Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed. That is why there is the qualifier `dynamic'. This indicates
> > that it is a completely different thing from static types.
>
> If we agree about this, then there is no need to con
Marshall wrote:
>
> That's really coming home to me in this thread: the terminology is *so*
> bad. I have noticed this previously in the differences between
> structural
> and nominal typing; many typing issues associated with this distinction
> are falsely labeled as a static-vs-dynamic issues, s
Chris Smith wrote:
> Joachim Durchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Assume a language that
> > a) defines that a program is "type-correct" iff HM inference establishes
> > that there are no type errors
> > b) compiles a type-incorrect program anyway, with an establishes
> > rigorous semantics fo
Marshall wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
> >
> > That's the important point: I want to run broken code.
>
> I want to make sure I understand. I can think of several things
> you might mean by this. It could be:
> 1) I want to run my program, even though I know par
Marshall wrote:
> Timo Stamm wrote:
> >
> > This is actually one of the most interesting threads I have read in a
> > long time. If you ignore the evangelism, there is a lot if high-quality
> > information and first-hand experience you couldn't find in a dozen books.
>
> Hear hear! This is an *exc
Marshall wrote:
>
> I stand corrected: if one is using C and writing self-modifying
> code, then one *can* zip one's pants.
Static proofs notwithstanding, I'd prefer a dynamic check just prior to
this operation.
I want my code to be the only self-modifying thing around here.
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David Hopwood wrote:
> > Joe Marshall wrote:
> >>
> >>I do this quite often. Sometimes I'll develop `in the debugger'. I'll
> >>change some piece of code and run the program until it traps. Then,
> >>without exiting the debugger, I&#x
Marshall wrote:
>
> Yes, an important question (IMHO the *more* important question
> than the terminology) is what *programs* do we give up if we
> wish to use static typing? I have never been able to pin this
> one down at all.
It would depend on the type system, naturally.
It isn't clear to me
Marshall wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
> > Looking back in comp.lang.lisp, I see these examples:
> >
> > (defun noisy-apply (f arglist)
> > (format t "I am now about to apply ~s to ~s" f arglist)
> > (apply f arglist))
> >
> > (def
QCD Apprentice wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
> > Marshall wrote:
> >>
> >> The real question is, are there some programs that we
> >> can't write *at all* in a statically typed language, because
> >> they'll *never* be typable?
> >
>
David Hopwood wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
>
> > (defun blackhole (argument)
> > (declare (ignore argument))
> > #'blackhole)
>
> This is typeable in any system with universally quantified types (including
> most practical systems with parametric poly
David Hopwood wrote:
> Joe Marshall wrote:
> >
> > The point is that there exists (by construction) programs that can
> > never be statically checked.
>
> I don't think you've shown that. I would like to see a more explicit
> construction of a dy
Andreas Rossberg wrote:
>
>~/> ocaml -rectypes
> Objective Caml version 3.08.3
>
># let rec blackhole x = blackhole;;
>val blackhole : 'b -> 'a as 'a =
>
> The problem is, though, that almost everything can be typed once you
> have unrestricted recursive types (e.g. missing a
Xah Lee wrote:
> Computer Language Popularity Trend
>
> This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
> indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
> comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
> popularity trends.
Suggestions:
Prov
hey
written in such a way that it is not possible to create a cyclic reference?
Thanks, Joe
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of my web pages, so you can play the
games on-line:
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Hello,
Suppose I have a python array as
follow:
s=[ [1,3,5],
[2,4,6],
[9,8,7]]
what is the quickest way to extract the second
colum from all rows? That is: [3,4,8] in this example.
Best regards,
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yamadora1999 wrote:
> How to use protocols.msn.FileSend and FileReceive?
> Please show me a example.
Excellent example here:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Xah Lee wrote:
> The Rise of Classes, Methods, Objects
1) Most of the information you posted was incomplete and much of
it is just plain wrong.
2) What you posted was not perl related.
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statements.
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I just upgraded from Python 2.4.2 to Python 2.5.1 and have found some
unexpected behavior that appears to be a bug in the os.stat module.
My OS is Windows XP SP2 + all updates.
I have several programs that have worked flawlessly on all previous Python
versions for years and they are now produc
ccess_match_count)
print 'Did NOT Match Access Date: %s' % (access_no_match_count)
print
print 'Matched Write Date : %s' % (write_match_count)
print 'Did NOT Match Write Date : %s' % (write_no_match_count)
print
"Tony Meyer" <[EMAIL
plorer and cmd.exe to return incorrect results.
Even if that was the case, it would not explain how when I manually set the
3 timestamps for a file to 01/02/2003 12:34:56 that Windows and Python 2.4.2
display the correct date and time but Python 2.5.1 displays the wrong one.
Thanks for your assist
up Windows Explorer also confirms that the times are still
01/02/2003 12:34:56.
My text editor has a was to display the file names and timestamp info just
like a dir command
Let's see what it says:
h: joe.txt0 1/02/03 12:34 \
The text editor
Hi Terry,
> If, when discussion is concluded here, you still think there is a bug,
> file
> a report on SF. Make a concise summary in the comments section and attach
> a file with the output from your experiments. You may have to submit the
> attachment separately after first submitting the rep
displayed, with
the exception of python 2.5.1.
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> It's not clear whether it's an error, however, localtime() does
> something different from what dir does.
Hi Martin,
First off thank you for spending your time to investigate this bug with me.
Thanks for pointing out the issue with Windows XP caching the access
timestamps,
I was not aware of
""Martin v. Löwis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> The short explaination of this issue is that the timestamp shown when
>> you do a dir on a file that is on an NTFS volume changes by an hour
>> when DST starts and also when DST ends, even though the file has NOT
>>
o a different
> | > time zone.
>
> Joe, read the last sentence again. Most of your reply shows that you have
> missed this basic point.
My reply specifically indicated that I was referring to the textual
presentation that Windows is showing.
I understand that a DST change and a ti
> Please understand that it is *extremely* tedious to follow your
> messages. It would have been much better if they had been short and
> to the point.
Sometimes it seems that it is impossible to please people.
When messages are short then people complain that they did not get
sufficient details
""Martin v. Löwis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> It appears that you may have missed part of my tests. Sorry it was such
>> a
>> long reply but I was trying to provide a lot of detail so that others had
>> a
>> clear understanding of what was going on.
>
> Ple
There is a conflict with the answers that you and Terry have given.
The original issue I raised was that I Python 2.5.1 and Windows did not have
the same textual represenation for a localize date.
You have stood true to the statements that Python 2.5.1 is correct and that
previous versions were
Perspective is often the source of problems with communication.
You view timezones and DST as offsets from GMT. I understand and respect
that perspective.
When I think of timezones and DST I think of the timezone setting and the
DST setting in Windows.
These settings are two separate settings
I have tried (unsuccessfully) to get you to view things from the end user
perspective.
I wish that you would consider looking at what the end user sees because
that is what really matters.
Without end users we would not need to develop software would we?
This entire conversation was VERY nicel
This seems like a pretty good resource, although I didn't read it all yet:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/l-dw-linux-pythonscript-i.html
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> But that perspective is not directly relevant to *your* topic line. When
> you make a claim that os.stat is 'broken' and bugged, you are making a
> claim about the *programmer* experience -- in particular, experiencing a
> discrepancy between performance and reasonable expectation based on the
>
Modify the PATHEXT environment variable to include .py;
For example the default one on Windows XP is:
PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;
Modify it so it says:
PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.py
Now you can run python programs from your c
I use vim on both Windows and UNIX/Linux, and found this vimrc file.
http://darksmile.net/software/.vimrc.html
It's pretty good and has good comments. You might want to take a look
at that and customize it.
Plus this is great:
http://www.usf.uni-osnabrueck.de/infoservice/doc/localhtml/vim/if_pyth
How about this one for recursion and control flow:
>>> def hcd(m,n):
... r = m % n
... if( r > 0 ):
... hcd(n, r)
... else:
... print "hcd = %d" % (n,)
...
>>> hcd(119, 544)
hcd = 17
>>>
It calculates the highest common denominator for m and n. Plus it's E1
in
I am still learning and this is a great resource:
http://diveintopython.org/index.html
You can buy it or read it online for free.
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> Precisely what? You complained that the OP didn't provide the location
> of the event, which he did.
Well, where is DFW?
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On 6/26/07, kaens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was like being slapped with the mid-90s
That was awesome.
> On 6/26/07, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brandon wrote:
> > > Check it out: www.BrandonsMansion.com
That is horrible.
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On 7/11/07, Shafik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am an experienced programmer, but very new to python (2 days). I
> wanted to ask: what exactly is the difference between a tuple and a
> list? I'm sure there are some, but I can't seem to find a situation
> where I can use one but not the other.
Th
On 7/18/07, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the best way to create a copy of a list?
I am pretty new to python but this works:
>>> list_one = [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
>>> list_two = [i for i in list_one]
>>> print list_two
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
>>>
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Sorry, I don't understand why this is still on the python mailing list.
:wq
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sorry just a test.
Joe
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dummy data
4. Run the broke.py script to show the problem.
The issue is when the data value is > 2048 bytes.
The size in the createtable.py is 2046 bytes plus 3 bytes at the end that
contain "JOE" for a total of 2049 bytes.
If you change it from 2046 to 2045 (or less) then the pro
I believe this bug is also related to the other problem I just reported.
OS = Windows XP SP2
DB = Microsoft Access XP
PROBLEM:
When you use + (or &) to concatenation columns together and the columns are
of type text and the combined length exceed 255 this causes pyodbc to fail
and python to cras
time to look at the patch.
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Thank you for your response but this is not an Access problem.
The exact same code using mx.ODBC or using the old odbc.py that comes with
the win32 files works fine.
It only fails with pyodbc.
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> On May 18, 6:46 pm, &qu
Thanks, I reported them there first and then posted here in case they
monitor the forum more frequently and so others would be aware of the
problems found.
Joe
"Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> En Fri, 18 May 2007 20:48:49
ata, followed by 4868 bytes of nulls.
I did a second test where the actual data size was 11,109 bytes. In that
case pyodbc returned a value that was 22,218 bytes long. The first 11,109
bytes are the real data, followed by 11,109 null bytes.
This seems to confirm the bug.
"Joe Salmeri&
is method:
"The visit function may modify names to influence the set of
directories visited below dirname, e.g. to avoid visiting certain
parts of the tree. (The object referred to by names must be modified
in place, using del or slice assignment.)"
So... What am I missing? Any hel
Using camel case instead of the under_score means less typing. I am lazy.
fooBar
foo_bar
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I am new to Python but these 2 have been great resources, so far:
http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html
http://docs.python.org/tut/
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> Each requires exactly the same number of key strokes when I do the
> math. (Too lazy to explain further...)
foo_bar
f, o, o, shift + underscore, b, a, r = 8
fooBar
f, o, o, shift + b, a, r = 7
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I need to configure apache to run python scripts. I followed the steps
mentioned in this site (http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/
addcgitoapache.shtml). But I am not able to run python scripts from
Firefox, I got a forbidden error "you do not have permission to
access the file in the server
On Jul 23, 4:42 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> joe jacob a écrit :
>
> > I need to configure apache to run python scripts. I followed the steps
> > mentioned in this site (http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/
> > addcgitoapache.shtml). But I am not able to run python
I configured apache to execute python scripts using mod_python
handler. I followed below mentioned steps to configure apache.
1. In http.conf I added
AddHandler mod_python .py
PythonHandler mptest
PythonDebug On
2. Then I added the line "LoadModule python_module modules/
mod_python.s
On Aug 13, 9:44 pm, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 5:16 am, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I configured apache to execute python scripts using mod_python
> > handler. I followed below mentioned steps to configure a
On 9/12/07, Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, guys ~~
>
> How can i work on VIM for python code? I use cscope plugin on VIM for
> C code before, it helps me to different function and search C
> variable where it is defined.
Change to the top level directory that contains your python source
f
If not then the connection will be opened forever?
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Hi everyone,
I'm a developer who's been using python for a couple of years. I wrote a
fairly large application using it but I was learning the language at the
same time so it most of the code kind of sucks.
I've learned a lot since then and I've been going through my code trying to
organize it b
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Makes perfect sense to me! Think about it:
>
>method 1: looks up the method directly from the object (fastest)
>method 2: looks up __class__, then looks up __dict__, then gets the
>element from __dict__
>method 3: looks up caller, looks up __class__, looks up __dict__, ge
On 10/8/07, Sanjay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Mapping the timezones to countries is a nice idea. Any idea how to
> go about it - I mean whether I have to collect the data manually and
> do it, or some better way is available - will help me a lot.
You might find some good information by brushi
On 10/10/07, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I missing something, or am I the only one who explicitly declares
> structs in python?
> For example:
> FileObject = {
> "filename" : None,
> "path" : None,
> }
>
> fobj = FileObject.copy()
> fobj["filename"] = "passwd"
> fobj["path"] =
On 10/17/07, Anthony Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> What is the best GNU/Linux distribution (or the most preferred) for
> developing Python applications? Ideally I would like one with both
> Python *and* IDLE included on the install media (neither Ubuntu nor SUSE
> have IDLE
On 10/17/07, Joe Riopel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IDLE and Python came installed on Slackware 12, I am not 100% sure
> about previous versions.
Also, I am sure a lot of it (with most distributions) depends on the
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On 10/19/07, Robert Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a C++ version of the C Python API packaged with python 2.5?
> It would be nice to have a OOP approach to embedding python in C++. It
> would also be a bonus if this C++ Python API cleaned up a lot of the
> messy code involved in embed
This might be worth a look: http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/04/ormtutorial.html
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On Nov 8, 2007 11:02 AM, steven depret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I get a lot of stuff in my output, but simply NOT the a=xx and the b = yy.
> What the heck am I doing wrong ?
What kind of stuff are you getting? Are you getting all the contents
of the HTTP response and/or HTML?
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On Nov 3, 2007 10:28 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try the free trial of Komodo
>
> http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/
Komodo Edit is free
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Open Komodo is free and open source:
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I'd like to use the subprocess module to create a pipeline with a
fork. For example, what if I wanted a "cat" process to send a file to
both an "md5sum" process and a "gzip" process. In bash, I'd do
something like this:
> cat source_file | tee >(md5sum > source_file.md5sum) | gzip -c >
> source
There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python,
spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms
of performance and ease of study.
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