Marshall wrote: > > Again, I disagree: it is posible to have mutability without > pointers/identity/objects.
I think you are wrong, but before I make a complete ass out of myself, I have to ask what you mean by `mutability'. (And pointers/identity/objects, for that matter.) Alan Bawden discusses the phenomenon of `state' in his Ph.D. dissertation "Implementing Distributed Systems Using Linear Naming". MIT AI Lab Technical Report AITR-1627. March 1993 He makes a persuasive argument that `state' is associated with cycles in naming. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list