Re: Test before PR

2018-10-10 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
ok, thank you! Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 10-10-18 04:18, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > Richard Damon at 2018.10.9 UTC+8 PM 8:40:29 wrote: >> Moderators are generally appointed by those who do 'pay the bill' for >> the mailing list they are moderators for, and serve at their pleasure. >> Mailing List are generally 'private property', tho

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Dan Purgert
jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote: > Chris Angelico at 2018.10.10 UTC+8 AM 10:31:33 wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:21 PM wrote: >> > [...] 3) Google group is a more free land to live. >> > >> > >> >> Well, just be aware that a lot of people block ALL posts that come >> from Google Groups. [...] > >

Python on 10.14 Mojave

2018-10-10 Thread Kevin Walzer
I'm trying to build Python 3.7.0 on macOS 10.14, and Tkinter is not linking to my installation of Tcl/Tk 8.6.8 in /Library/Frameworks. Instead it is linking to the ancient 8.5 Tk installed in /System/Library/Frameworks. My usual way of forcing Python to link to my installation is to edit setup.

Python doesn't install

2018-10-10 Thread daankahmann01
Hi Guys! I have an annoying problem, I can download Python (from python.org) but it won't install on my laptop. If I try to open the installer, it closes again. I also don't get a error message. I'm using windows 10. I already tried most of the obvious things like restarting, deleting the progr

Re: Python on 10.14 Mojave

2018-10-10 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 2018-10-10 14:52, Kevin Walzer wrote: > I'm trying to build Python 3.7.0 on macOS 10.14, and Tkinter is not > linking to my installation of Tcl/Tk 8.6.8 in /Library/Frameworks. > Instead it is linking to the ancient 8.5 Tk installed in > /System/Library/Frameworks. My usual way of forcing Python

Paul Romer, 2018 Economics Nobel Laureate, uses Python and Jupyter

2018-10-10 Thread jfine2358
Terry Reedy wrote: > https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/ > Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper > Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how > ideas interact with economic growth, explained last April why

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Robin Becker
On 10/10/2018 02:17, Terry Reedy wrote: https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/ Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how ideas interact with economic growth, explained la

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Rhodri James
On 10/10/18 08:32, Robin Becker wrote: On 10/10/2018 02:17, Terry Reedy wrote: https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-of-the-research-paper/ Jupyter, Mathematica, and the Future of the Research Paper Paul Romer, new Nobel prize winner in economics, for research on how ideas

Re: Python doesn't install

2018-10-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/10/2018 9:53 AM, daankahman...@gmail.com wrote: I have an annoying problem, I can download Python (from python.org) but it won't install on my laptop. If I try to open the installer, it closes again. I also don't get a error message. I'm using windows 10. I already tried most of the obv

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Rhodri James
On 09/10/18 12:12, Rhodri James wrote: On 08/10/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote: Banning Rick Johnson: Hopefully no explanation needed [2]. Explanation/justification needed, but given :-)  Again, I killfiled Rick ages ago, and I agree his language does justify banning. Now

Re: Python doesn't install

2018-10-10 Thread Daan Kahmann
Op woensdag 10 oktober 2018 19:20:42 UTC+2 schreef Terry Reedy: > On 10/10/2018 9:53 AM, daankahman...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I have an annoying problem, I can download Python (from python.org) but it > > won't install on my laptop. If I try to open the installer, it closes > > again. I also don

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread jfine2358
Rhodri James wrote: > Robin Becker wrote: > > I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling > > check as this quote shows [Paul Romer's blog] > > "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of > > private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the colla

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread codewizard
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:09:41 PM UTC-4, Rhodri James wrote: > On 10/10/18 08:32, Robin Becker wrote: > > > > I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling > > check as this quote shows > > > > "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Ethan Furman
On 10/10/2018 11:07 AM, Rhodri James wrote: Now I've had a chance to go back through the archive (it's been that kind of day at work), I'm going to have to recant.  I can't find anything that Rick wrote in the week or two before the ban Where are you looking? -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.pytho

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:54 AM Bruce Coram wrote: > > I will declare at the outset, I am a lurker. I don't know enough about > Python to give advice that I could 100% guarantee would be helpful. > > There have been two recent threads that summarise for me where the > Python Mailing List has lost

Re: Creating dice game : NEED HELP ON CHECKING ELEMENTS IN A LIST

2018-10-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2018-10-06, eliteanarchyra...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, I am new to python and would like someones help on the > following: > > After rolling 5 dice and putting the results into a list, I > need to check if any dice is not a 1 or 5. if any(roll != 1 and roll != 5 for roll in result): > # - T

Python3 packages installation

2018-10-10 Thread Rich Shepard
Here, both python-2.7.15 and python3-3.6.6 are installed. Using pip (which I understand works with both python versions) I was able to install ipython, matplotlib, numpy, and pandas. They're all in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages. Now I want to install the same packages for python3 so th

Re: Creating dice game : NEED HELP ON CHECKING ELEMENTS IN A LIST

2018-10-10 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
*if any(roll != 1 and roll != 5 for roll in result):* another extract of py's beauty! Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: ESR "Waning of Python" post

2018-10-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2018-10-09, Paul Rubin wrote: > If anyone cares, Eric Raymond posted a big rant saying > basically he's giving up on Python and porting a big program > he's working on to Go. Reasons he gives are > performance (Go is 40x faster for his app) > memory footprint (high overhead of simple Python ob

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing
Rhodri James wrote: I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling check as this quote shows "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social systems that took centuries to build."

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:36 AM Gregory Ewing wrote: > > BTW, an automatic spelling checker wouldn't have helped here. > We really need to redesign English spelling so that it has > error correction built in. You mean at the level of words, or sentences? A sentence already has enough redundancy t

Re: Python3 packages installation

2018-10-10 Thread Jim
On 10/10/2018 03:05 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:   Here, both python-2.7.15 and python3-3.6.6 are installed. Using pip (which I understand works with both python versions) I was able to install ipython, matplotlib, numpy, and pandas. They're all in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages.   Now I want

Re: Python3 packages installation

2018-10-10 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, Jim wrote: I think you have to first install a package called 'python3-pip'. At least that's what I had to do on Ubuntu. Jim, Well, it did not occur to me to try a hyphenated name. I'm sure that's the solution. Thanks for the pointer! Best regards, Rich -- https://mai

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote: Rhodri James wrote: I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling check as this quote shows "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of soci

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:09 AM Thomas Jollans wrote: > > On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote: > > Rhodri James wrote: > >>> I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling > >>> check as this quote shows > >>> > >>> "Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whos

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 11/10/2018 01:26, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:09 AM Thomas Jollans wrote: On 10/10/2018 23:32, Gregory Ewing wrote: Rhodri James wrote: I'm a great fan of erroneous spelling and this blog needs a spelling check as this quote shows "Mathematica exemplifies the horde o

Re: Observations on the List - "Be More Kind"

2018-10-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 October 2018 14:27:32 Larry Martell wrote: > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:54 AM Bruce Coram wrote: > > I will declare at the outset, I am a lurker. I don't know enough > > about Python to give advice that I could 100% guarantee would be > > helpful. > > > > There have been two recen

Re: Python doesn't install

2018-10-10 Thread Ryan Johnson
Need more info than that. For a problem as unusual as that, it'll take a lot of scrutiny to find the problem. Dump as much info as you can about your system environment and your existing installations and upload them to https://hastebin.com/ (secure and private text host). Include relevant screens

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing
Chris Angelico wrote: You mean at the level of words, or sentences? I mean at the word level, so that a dumb algorithm can find spelling errors. Auto-correcting errors at the semantic level would require considerably better AI than we have at the moment. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: From Mathematica to Jypyter

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing
Thomas Jollans wrote: Sure it is. He's contrasting *private* gain with *public* loss. If there is any ambiguity here it is whether there is a threat *of* a public loss, or *to* a public loss ^_^ I don't think you've spotted the error yet. I'm trying to provide a clue as to which word you need

Re: ESR "Waning of Python" post

2018-10-10 Thread Gregory Ewing
Paul Rubin wrote [concerning GIL removal]: It's weird that Python's designers were willing to mess up the user language in the 2-to-3 transition but felt that the C API had to be kept sarcosanct. Huge opportunities were blown at multiple levels. You say that as though we had a solution for GIL

Re: ESR "Waning of Python" post

2018-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM Gregory Ewing wrote: > > Paul Rubin wrote [concerning GIL removal]: > > It's weird that Python's designers were willing to mess up the user > > language in the 2-to-3 transition but felt that the C API had to be kept > > sarcosanct. Huge opportunities were blown at