Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or "diacritics" as linguists do. I am a native born American and I have never before heard or seen non-accent diacritic marks called 'accents'. Accents indicate stress. Other d

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, 08:12 meInvent bbird, wrote: > how to automate java application in window using python > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > 2. click button > 3. type text in textbox > I would recommend having a look at pywinauto https://github.com/pywinauto/pywinauto It presents a very

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean >> programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... > Which is not something that GUIs are designed for. Therefore it is at > best an unreliable exercise, at worst futile

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

Am 17.09.16 um 23:19 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: Peng Yu wrote: Hi, I want to convert strings in which the characters with accents should be converted to the ones without accents. Why? […] ./main.py Förstemann AFAIK, “ä”, “ö”, and “ü” are not accented characters in any natural lang

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+12, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: > >>> The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean >>> programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... >> >> Which is not something that GUIs ar

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed for humans, not computers, to use. You don't always have a choice. Consider batch-processing a number of images (say, 30,000 movie frames) using a proprietary effect fi

Functions Of Functions Returning Functions

The less code you have to write, the better. Less code means less maintenance, and fewer opportunities for bugs. Here is an example of how I was able to knock a few hundred lines off the size of a Python module. When I was writing my Python wrapper for HarfBuzz , the

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:13:41 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > > Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are >> designed for humans, not computers, to use. > > You don't always have a choice. Consider

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> lot of ways: OLE and COM objects back in the day, .NET currently, > None of the different ways of which are either a) compatible or b) > widely supported. Particularly not in Java, as the OP was asking. I'm quite sure there are Java bindings for all those protocols.

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

Den 2016-09-17 skrev Marko Rauhamaa : > Martin Schöön : >> Related anecdote from Phoenix AZ. By now you have noticed my family >> name: Schöön. On airline tickets and boarding passes in the U.S. it >> gets spelled Schoeoen. > > Do Swedes do that German thing, too? If you have to write Finnish > wit

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:13:41 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed for humans, not computers, to use.

Re: Functions Of Functions Returning Functions

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:28 pm, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > This shows the power of functions as first-class objects. The concept > is older than object orientation, and is often left out of > object-oriented languages. I think Python benefits from the fact that > it had functions before it had cla

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:42 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >>> lot of ways: OLE and COM objects back in the day, .NET currently, >> None of the different ways of which are either a) compatible or b) >> widely supported. Particularly not in Java, as the OP was asking. > > I'm q

Re: Is there something similar to `set -v` of bash in python

On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 11:09:04 PM UTC-4, Peng Yu wrote: > The manual says the following. > > "The trace function is invoked (with event set to 'call') whenever a > new local scope is entered; it should return a reference to a local > trace function to be used that scope, or None if th

Re: Is there something similar to `set -v` of bash in python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 11:09:04 PM UTC-4, Peng Yu wrote: > > The manual says the following. > > > > "The trace function is invoked (with event set to 'call') whenever a > > new local scope is entered; it should return a reference

Serialising an 8x8x8 array of pygame sounds

Is it possible to serialise an 8x8x8 array of pygame.mixer.Sound objects, so they stay at the same places in the array, but in a format that can be pickled, and then the opposite (read from that back to pygame.mixer.Sound objects)? Thanks (copied from stackoverflow question @ https://is.gd/JDtU

Re: Is there something similar to `set -v` of bash in python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 8:29:38 AM UTC-4, Peng Yu wrote: > On Sunday, September 18, 2016, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 11:09:04 PM UTC-4, Peng Yu wrote: > > > The manual says the following. > > > > > > "The trace function is invoked (with event set to 'c

Re: Serialising an 8x8x8 array of pygame sounds

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:20 pm, kerbingamer376 wrote: > Is it possible to serialise an 8x8x8 array of pygame.mixer.Sound objects, > so they stay at the same places in the array, but in a format that can be > pickled, and then the opposite (read from that back to pygame.mixer.Sound > objects)? Can y

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed > for humans, not computers, to use. Okay, then. Come up with a way to end-to-end-test a GUI application without some form of GUI automation. Sometimes, comi

Re: Serialising an 8x8x8 array of pygame sounds

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 2:59:10 PM UTC+1, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:20 pm, kerbingamer376 wrote: > > > Is it possible to serialise an 8x8x8 array of pygame.mixer.Sound objects, > > so they stay at the same places in the array, but in a format that can be > > pickled,

Re: Serialising an 8x8x8 array of pygame sounds

kerbingamer376 wrote: > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 2:59:10 PM UTC+1, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:20 pm, kerbingamer376 wrote: >> >> > Is it possible to serialise an 8x8x8 array of pygame.mixer.Sound >> > objects, so they stay at the same places in the array, but in a for

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Steve D'Aprano writes: >> Automation doesn't simulate button presses > Rather than saying that it *doesn't*, it might be better to say that it > doesn't *necessarily* simulate button presses. I'm no Windoze guru but I always understood Automation (sometimes written with a capital A) to refer to a

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other si =?utf-8?Q?milar_things)_in_a_string??=

* Terry Reedy (Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:51:40 -0400) > > On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or > > "diacritics" as linguists do. > > I am a native born American and I have never before heard or seen > non-accent di

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

Thorsten Kampe : > * Terry Reedy (Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:51:40 -0400) >> On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> > It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or >> > "diacritics" as linguists do. >> >> I am a native born American and I have never before heard or se

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On 09/18/2016 04:03 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are > designed for humans, not computers, to use. Well then we have a huge problem. Especially for users who are visually-impaired. Fortunately almost all GUIs (Windows, Linux, and

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:12:14 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed >> for humans, not computers, to use. > > Okay, then. Come up with a way to end

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 8:00:43 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 09/18/2016 04:03 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are >> designed for humans, not computers, to use. > > Well then we have a huge problem. Especially

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:02:57 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > > Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: > >> Considering the power available in Free Software toolkits like >> ImageMagick, G’MIC and so on, not to mention libraries accessible >> from Python itself, let

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > A CLI gives the user power over the computer. While a GUI is a great way to > give the computer, and proprietary software companies, power over the user. This is completely beside the point of the original question.

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On 09/18/2016 02:22 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > I know one blind computer user who is quite capable with the command > line, and who has little fondness for GUI apps. You should see how > quickly he works... Good for him. This is very good that there are tools like that that he and many othe

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:32:25 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: > One I've used is AutoIt. Like I said, this kind of thing can never work reliably... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/list

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

Il 18/09/2016 08:45, Steven D'Aprano ha scritto: integral part of the letter, like the horizonal stroke in English t or the vertical bar in English p and b, and in some languages they are modifiers, well... that is the Latin alphabet English has no T, P or B (or any other character) but is jus

Re: How to convert 'ö' to 'oe' or 'o' (or other similar things) in a string?

On Sunday 18 September 2016 17:51, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 9/18/2016 2:45 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> It doesn't matter whether you call them "accent" like most people do, or >> "diacritics" as linguists do. > > I am a native born American and I have never before heard or seen > non-accent d

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

Am 19.09.16 um 00:45 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:02:57 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Considering the power available in Free Software toolkits like ImageMagick, G’MIC and so on, not to mention libr

Re: Functions Of Functions Returning Functions

Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: > The less code you have to write, the better. Less code means less > maintenance, and fewer opportunities for bugs. While I agree with you in general, sometimes less code can be harder to maintain (when it is more difficult to understand). Some time ago, we had a (qu