On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 9:34:36 AM UTC-5, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 20-11-15 om 13:12 schreef Ned Batchelder:
> > On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 6:59:54 AM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
> >> On 20/11/2015 01:05, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 04:30 am, BartC wrote:
> >>>
> On
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:43 AM, BartC wrote:
> It comes from the use of file handles (what you get in some languages when
> you open or create a file) which everyone can understand:
>
> * If you copy handle F to G like in an assignment, it obviously doesn't copy
> the contents of the file, just t
Op 23-11-15 om 14:58 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:40 pm, BartC wrote:
>
>> On 23/11/2015 07:47, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>> I think it would be cleaner and better if Python had dedicated syntax for
>>> declaring static local variables:
>>
>> Interesting. So why is it that wh
Op 24-11-15 om 15:34 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>>> Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
>>> you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>
>> That doesn't change the fact it does look like a literal and not like
>>
Op 24-11-15 om 15:34 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>>> Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
>>> you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>
>> That doesn't change the fact it does look like a literal and not like
>>
Op 24-11-15 om 15:18 schreef Ned Batchelder:
> 2) In Python, "value" means, what object does a name refer to, or what
> object did an evaluation produce.
I don't think this is correct because that would imply that objects don't
change values (since the value would be the object).
When a list is
Op 24-11-15 om 15:34 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>>> Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
>>> you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>
>> That doesn't change the fact it does look like a literal and not like
>>
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 15:34 schreef Chris Angelico:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>>
>>> That does
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:10:51 AM UTC-5, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 15:18 schreef Ned Batchelder:
>
> > 2) In Python, "value" means, what object does a name refer to, or what
> > object did an evaluation produce.
>
> I don't think this is correct because that would imply tha
Hi,
I have to run the asyncio.loop on a separated thread because the main
thread is running FUSE. Apparently fuse needs to run on the main
thread because it uses signal():
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/fuse.py", line 390, in __init__
old_handler = signal(SIGINT, SIG_DFL)
V
On 11/23/2015 20:29, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Nov2015 16:25, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Completely untested example code:
class ReturnEvent:
def __init__(self):
self.event = Event()
With, of course:
def wait(self):
return self.event.wait()
Of course :-) Ah, the Event() object
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> What is your point? I say that [] looks like a literal. Because it
> sure resembles () which is a literal.
>
> That [] in fact isn't a literal doesn't contradict it looks like
> one.
>
> That you can come up with more complicated list express
Op 24-11-15 om 16:17 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 15:34 schreef Chris Angelico:
>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
>>> wrote:
> Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
> yo
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have to run the asyncio.loop on a separated thread because the main
> thread is running FUSE. Apparently fuse needs to run on the main
> thread because it uses signal():
>
>
> File "/usr/local/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/fuse.p
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:57 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Antoon Pardon :
>
>> You then switching to talking about objects, just gives the impression
>> that object is a synonym for value.
>
> It isn't?
No it isn't.
The definition of "object" -- well, I say "the" definition, but the nasty
truth is
On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>>> Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
>>> you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>
>> That doesn't change the fact it does look like a literal and not like
>> a const
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
Start thinking of it as a constructor call rather than a literal, and
you'll get past most of the confusion.
>>>
>>> That doesn't change t
Ben Finney writes:
Ben Finney
Date:
11/24/2015 04:49 AM
To:
python-list@python.org
George Trojan writes:
The following code has bitten me recently:
t=(0,1)
x,y=t if t else 8, 9
print(x, y)
(0, 1) 9
You can simplify this by taking assignment out of the picture::
>>> t = (0, 1)
threading supports the 'daemon' option[1], when set to True and the
program is in *foreground* then the event-loop thread dies when
SIGTERM-ed, however, if the program is in the *background* it doesn't
work! still deadlocked :'''(
while I'm not finding a definitive solution I'll be doing a
os.kill
Op 24-11-15 om 16:48 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> What is your point? I say that [] looks like a literal. Because it
>> sure resembles () which is a literal.
>>
>> That [] in fact isn't a literal doesn't contradict it looks like
>> one.
>>
>>
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 16:48 schreef Chris Angelico:
>> () is not a literal either.
>
> The byte code sure suggests it is.
>
> Take the following code:
>
> import dis
>
> def f():
> i = 42
> t = ()
> l = []
>
> dis.dis(f)
>
> That produces the
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 9:29:30 AM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 24/11/2015 14:07, Denis McMahon wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 02:04:56 -0800, Cai Gengyang wrote:
> >
> >> Here's a dictionary with 3 values :
> >>
> >> results = {
> >>"gengyang": 14,
> >>"ensheng": 13, "jordan":
On 24 November 2015 at 15:27, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:10:51 AM UTC-5, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 15:18 schreef Ned Batchelder:
>>
>> > 2) In Python, "value" means, what object does a name refer to, or what
>> > object did an evaluation produce.
>>
>>
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:38 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 19-11-15 om 13:45 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
[...]
>> I don't mean that it isn't sometimes useful. Of course it is sometimes
>> useful, there's no doubt about that. But why would you expect the
>> language to default to the *slow*, *expensive*,
Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>
>> So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>
> This enumerates exactly what literals are in Python:
>
> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#literals
>
> I think it's a rather pedantic point, though. How are nu
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 12:25:54 PM UTC-5, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 24 November 2015 at 15:27, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:10:51 AM UTC-5, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> >> Op 24-11-15 om 15:18 schreef Ned Batchelder:
> >>
> >> > 2) In Python, "value" means, wh
On 11/24/2015 9:34 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I agree that the tutorial should talk about default argument objects
(which have values) instead of conflating 'object' with 'value'.
Op 20-11-15 om 13:12 schreef Ned Batchelder:
I'm not sure what your goal is at this point. Are you:
1) stil
In <277843f7-c898-4378-85ea-841b09a28...@googlegroups.com> Cai Gengyang
writes:
> results = [
> {"id": 1, "name": "ensheng", "score": 10},
> {"id": 2, "name": "gengyang", "score": 12},
> {"id": 3, "name": "jordan", "score": 5},
> ]
Okay, this is a list.
> I want to find gengyang's score. This
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>
>>
>>> So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>>
>> This enumerates exactly what literals are in Python:
>>
>> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#literals
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:17 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> So are you saying
>>
>> () isn't a literal
>>
>> because
>>
>> (x * x for x in range(int(input("How far? " isn't a literal?
>
> I'm pretty sure tuple/list/dict display predat
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:58 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 23-11-15 om 14:58 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> > ... closures can also be used for [static storage] ...
> If you really want mutable static storage, you can simulate it more
> cleanly with a closure than using a default argument.
You don't s
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>>
>>>
So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>>>
>>> This enumerates exactly what literals are in Python:
>>>
>>> ht
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> loop_container = {}
> handler = threading.Thread(target=run_loop, args=(loop_container, ))
> handler.start()
> try:
> time.sleep(1)
> finally:
> loop_container['loop'].stop(
Ned Batchelder :
> Oscar, thanks for the thoughtful comments. I agree that using "object"
> for the result of an expression, and for the referent of a name, would
> go some ways to clarifying things.
>
> Perhaps the Python world uses "value" less to mean "object" than I am
> thinking. But we do ta
Op 24-11-15 om 18:46 schreef Terry Reedy:
> On 11/24/2015 9:34 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
> I agree that the tutorial should talk about default argument objects (which
> have values) instead of conflating 'object' with 'value'.
>
>> Op 20-11-15 om 13:12 schreef Ned Batchelder:
>
>>> I'm not sur
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:13 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Personally, I don't like the "official" Python usage:
>
> Objects whose value can change are said to be mutable
>
> I would prefer this wording:
>
> Objects whose inner state can change are said to be mutable
I see your point, but "inner s
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Zachary Ware
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
>> if __name__ == '__main__':
>> loop_container = {}
>> handler = threading.Thread(target=run_loop, args=(loop_container, ))
>> handler.start()
>> try:
>> time.slee
Op 24-11-15 om 18:53 schreef Ian Kelly:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>>
>>>
So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>>>
>>> This enumerates exactly what literals are in Python:
>>>
>>> https://docs.p
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 1:45:34 PM UTC-5, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Whether you want to call it literals or something else, the fact
> remains that (3, 5, 8) is treated like -42 by the CPython interpreter
> and [3, 5, 8] is not.
Maybe I've lost the original point in all this minutia about wh
On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very
> definition.
Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is
generally agreed on, rather than something each language's spec can invent from
whole cloth for it
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I think limiting literals to lexical tokens is too limited. Sure we
> can define them like that in the context of the python grammar, but
> I don't see why we should limit ourselves to such a definition outside
> that context.
>
> I see noth
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very
>> definition.
>
> Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is
> generally agreed on, rather than some
Steven D'Aprano :
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:13 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> I would prefer this wording:
>>
>> Objects whose inner state can change are said to be mutable
>
> I see your point, but "inner state" might not be related to the
> object's externally visible value.
The inner state is in
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> still it appears to work only if the main thread is in the foreground
> (as of calling Thread() with deamon=True), I don't get why it behaves
> differently :( maybe it is waiting for other stuff, but no idea how to
> confirm this with strace
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Zachary Ware
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
>> still it appears to work only if the main thread is in the foreground
>> (as of calling Thread() with deamon=True), I don't get why it behaves
>> differently :( maybe it is waiting for
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Zachary Ware
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Marc Aymerich wrote:
>>> still it appears to work only if the main thread is in the foreground
>>> (as of calling Thread() with deamon=True), I don'
Op 24-11-15 om 20:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> But no matter what you want to call it. The dis module shows that
>> -42 is treated in exactly the same way as 42, which is treated
>> exactly the same way as () or as (5, 8, 13) which is treated
>> differently from [] or [5, 8, 13].
>
> This is an imple
I using 'logging' for some month.
But today I have strange problem. When importing it it fails.
Python 3.4.3 (default, Oct 14 2015, 20:33:09)
[GCC 4.8.4] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import logging
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "
On 24/11/2015 20:54, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 24-11-15 om 20:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
But no matter what you want to call it. The dis module shows that
-42 is treated in exactly the same way as 42, which is treated
exactly the same way as () or as (5, 8, 13) which is treated
differently from [] or
Op 24-11-15 om 22:14 schreef BartC:
> On 24/11/2015 20:54, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 20:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>>
But no matter what you want to call it. The dis module shows that
-42 is treated in exactly the same way as 42, which is treated
exactly the same way as () or
On 24Nov2015 06:33, israel wrote:
On 11/23/2015 20:29, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Nov2015 16:25, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Completely untested example code:
class ReturnEvent:
def __init__(self):
self.event = Event()
With, of course:
def wait(self):
return self.event.wait()
Of c
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 20:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>
>>> But no matter what you want to call it. The dis module shows that
>>> -42 is treated in exactly the same way as 42, which is treated
>>> exactly the same way as () or as (5, 8, 13) which is treate
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Then #3. I would have a common function/method for submitting a request to
> go to the subprocess, and have that method return an Event on which to wait.
> Then caller then just waits for the Event and collects the data. Obviously,
> the m
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:27 AM, wrote:
> The problem happens with Python3 because "logging" is in the default
> installation. In Python2 it is not installed. I installed it with
>sudo python2 -m pip install logging -U
>
> This works without problems. Importing in Python2 works, too.
You app
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very
>> definition.
>
> Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is
> generally agreed on, rather than somet
On 24Nov2015 14:53, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Then #3. I would have a common function/method for submitting a request to
go to the subprocess, and have that method return an Event on which to wait.
Then caller then just waits for the Event and co
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 06:00 am, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very
>> definition.
>
> Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is
> generally agreed on, rather than somethi
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:25 am, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> The point is that a
> tuple can just be loaded as a constant without needing something extra.
How would one load this tuple as a constant?
(myfile.read(), "%.5f" % sin(x or y))
The point is that *in general*, tuple so-called "literals" (wha
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:18 am, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> In English, "value" means something like, what is this equal to?
> There isn't another good word to use in place of "value" here.
There are many different meanings for the English noun "value" (Websters
1913 dictionary includes ten), but I th
In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:39:54 +1100, "Steven D'Aprano" writes:
>I'm not sure what value [ha, see what I did there?!] there is in inventing
>two new words for things that we already have standard terms for.
Done correctly, you can get clarity.
>"Referent" is just a funny way of saying
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> If, and only if, the tuple
> contains nothing but immutable constants e.g.
>
> (1, 2.0, None, "spam")
>
> then a sufficiently smart compiler may be able to treat that specific tuple
> as a constant/literal. But that's a special case, and c
Full story here:
http://grodola.blogspot.com/2015/11/openbsd-support-for-psutil.html
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Laura Creighton writes:
> If I had a time machine, I would go back to early days of Python and
> ban the use of the term 'assignment' and 'value' both. I would insist
> that the term 'binding' be used instead, though if you want to use the
> verb refer, to be synonymous with bind, well, I think t
Hello!
I'm new to Python, so I decided to learn it and write simple apt alternative
(apt is somewhat broken for me).
But I can't decide - can I read just one file (/DEBIAN/control) from archive
without unpacking it, or do I need to unpack? And what module I can use to
handle .ar files? (I read i
Hi,
Do you see any possible dangerous hidden bug in the below code(using
python2.7 and python3.4)?
My goal is to avoid go through the metrics list twice. But, I don't
know if there will be a problem with doing in place replace of list
elements using 2 generators.
# metrics = ['', '0', '10']
I tried to install this software python 3.4.3 to my pc which run windows Xp 32.
i could installed but it doesnot run.it gives this message
"python35-32/python.exe isnot a valid win32 app.Please help me to get solved
this problem
Thanks
Aruna
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Hi,
I have an if statement which seems to run both commands and I cannot figure out
why. (just learning so I may be missing something obvious) Any ideas?
while True:
global latit,longt,jlatit,jlongt,mlongt,mlatit
response = urllib.urlopen(url)
data = json.loads(response.r
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM, ARONA KANAGARATHNA via Python-list
wrote:
> I tried to install this software python 3.4.3 to my pc which run windows Xp
> 32. i could installed but it doesnot run.it gives this message
> "python35-32/python.exe isnot a valid win32 app.Please help me to get solved
Ben Finney :
> Indeed, in the past I used the term “value” as synonymous (in Python
> context) with the term “object”. I have become convinced through this
> discussion that I should no longer use the terms that way.
>
> [...]
>
> The concepts are distinct, so I apologise for misleadingly conflati
Кисик Мурысик writes:
> Hello!
> I'm new to Python, so I decided to learn it
Congratulations! Python is a fine language to learn, and this is the
place to discuss general Python topics.
You may also want to join the ‘tutor’ forum
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>, which is
specifi
I need an input function with GNU readline support. So far I have:
import readline
readline.parse_and_bind("tab: complete")
file = raw_input('File to send: ')
Cursor keys are working, but TAB-completion works only in the current
directory. Example:
File to send: [TAB][TAB]
argv.py
c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote:
> I want to call (on bash) a Python script in this two ways without any
> error.
>
> ./arg.py
> ./arg.py TEST
>
> It means that the parameter (here with the value `TEST`) should be
> optional. With argparse I only know a way to create optional paramters
> when th
It is nothing more but naming convention. This code was part of the function.
Actually, in the final version I removed that "f" and changed some names of
variables to shorter versions.
It is all about your own preferences towards readability of the code and
ability of visual capture of the code.
Hi all;
Yesterday just downloaded python-3.5.0-amd64 on windows10 running
laptop- running flawless.
But my trouble is with my office desktop Windows Vista. Considering the
processor diference, this time, downloaded the python-3.5.0 (32 bit)
version.
The question is i am receiving 'api-ms-win
Crane Ugly wrote:
> I always try to have code that easy to read.
That's laudable, code is a means of communication.
> At least for myself.
and only for yourself, unfortunately.
Recommended read:
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
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In a message of Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:56:32 +0200, tolga.karabiyiko...@ankara.edu
.tr writes:
>Hi all;
>
>Yesterday just downloaded python-3.5.0-amd64 on windows10 running
>laptop- running flawless.
>
>But my trouble is with my office desktop Windows Vista. Considering the
>processor diference, thi
Here's a dictionary with 3 values :
results = {
"gengyang": 14,
"ensheng": 13,
"jordan": 12
}
How do I define a function that takes the last of the 3 items in that list and
returns Jordan's results i.e. (12) ?
Thanks a lot !
Gengyang
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Cai Gengyang wrote:
> Here's a dictionary with 3 values :
>
> results = {
> "gengyang": 14,
> "ensheng": 13,
> "jordan": 12
> }
>
> How do I define a function that takes the last of the 3 items in that list
> and returns Jordan's results i.e. (12) ?
>
> Than
Strange, it gives me an error message when i type result["jordan"] or
result[max(result)] though :
>>> results = {
"gengyang": 14,
"ensheng": 13,
"jordan": 12
}
>>> result["jordan"]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
result["jordan"]
NameError: name 'result'
Cai Gengyang wrote:
> Here's a dictionary with 3 values :
>
> results = {
> "gengyang": 14,
> "ensheng": 13,
> "jordan": 12
> }
>
> How do I define a function that takes the last of the 3 items in that list
> and returns Jordan's results i.e. (12) ?
>
> Thanks a lot !
You can access the
Cai Gengyang wrote:
> Strange, it gives me an error message when i type result["jordan"] or
> result[max(result)] though :
>
results = {
> "gengyang": 14,
> "ensheng": 13,
> "jordan": 12
> }
>
result["jordan"]
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> re
Yup, thanks a lot ... it works now !
>>> results = {
"gengyang": 14,
"ensheng": 13,
"jordan": 12
}
>>> results["jordan"]
12
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 6:40:26 PM UTC+8, Peter Otten wrote:
> Cai Gengyang wrote:
>
> > Strange, it gives me an error message when i type result["jordan"
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
> In a message of Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:56:32 +0200,
> tolga.karabiyiko...@ankara.edu
>
>>The question is i am receiving 'api-ms-win-crt-runtime-i1-1-0.dll is
>>missing' error on the start up.
>
> You appear to have this problem.
>
> https://b
results = {
"gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
"ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
"jordan": {"maths": 9, "english": 13}
}
How do you get gengyang's maths scores ?
Thank you ...
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> Yeah, the error message really should be
>
> "NameError: name 'result' is not defined; did you mean 'results'?"
>
> ;)
Heh. Yes, that was my fault. Sorry Cai! it should have been
results["jordan"], as you figured out.
ChrisA
Its cool ... No problem
On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 7:05:25 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> > Yeah, the error message really should be
> >
> > "NameError: name 'result' is not defined; did you mean 'results'?"
> >
> >
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 02:25 pm, George Trojan wrote:
> The following code has bitten me recently:
>
> >>> t=(0,1)
> >>> x,y=t if t else 8, 9
> >>> print(x, y)
> (0, 1) 9
>
> I was assuming that a comma has the highest order of evaluation, that is
> the expression 8, 9 should make a tuple. Why t
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:04 pm, Cai Gengyang wrote:
> results = {
> "gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
> "ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
> "jordan": {"maths": 9, "english": 13}
> }
>
> How do you get gengyang's maths scores ?
Break the problem into two steps:
- get Gengya
Op 19-11-15 om 00:22 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:14 AM, BartC wrote:
>> On 18/11/2015 22:11, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM, fl wrote:
Hi,
I have tried the below function and find that it can remember the
previous
se
print((results["gengyang"])["maths"])
2015-11-24 12:04 GMT+01:00 Cai Gengyang :
> results = {
> "gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
> "ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
> "jordan": {"maths": 9, "english": 13}
> }
>
> How do you get gengyang's maths scores ?
>
> Thank you ...
Great, it works! Thanks a lot ..
>>> results = {
"gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
"ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
"jordan": {"maths": 9, "english": 13}
}
>>> print((results["gengyang"])["maths"])
10
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Arie van Wingerden
wrote:
> print((
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
>>> So, looking at some source code, a default value for certain types is only
>>> certain to be that value for the very first call of that function?
>>
>> On the contrary, it is certain always to be that exact object.
>
> No, he is talking ab
On 24/11/2015 11:04, Cai Gengyang wrote:
results = {
"gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
"ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
"jordan": {"maths": 9, "english": 13}
}
How do you get gengyang's maths scores ?
Thank you ...
One way is to delete the scores for ensheng and
Hi Mark, what use would that have? Please show your code ...
2015-11-24 13:15 GMT+01:00 Mark Lawrence :
> On 24/11/2015 11:04, Cai Gengyang wrote:
>
>> results = {
>>"gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
>>"ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 10},
>>"jordan": {"maths": 9, "english
Op 19-11-15 om 13:45 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:41 pm, BartC wrote:
>
>
>> I expect the version with the default argument to be
>> exactly the same as the last lot of calls, namely for:
>>
>> fn()
>> fn()
>> fn()
>>
>> to be equivalent to:
>>
>> temp=[]
>> fn(temp)
>> temp=
Op 24-11-15 om 13:07 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
So, looking at some source code, a default value for certain types is only
certain to be that value for the very first call of that function?
>>>
>>> On the contrary, it is certain alw
Antoon Pardon :
> You then switching to talking about objects, just gives the impression
> that object is a synonym for value.
It isn't?
Marko
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results = [
{"id": 1, "name": "ensheng", "score": 10},
{"id": 2, "name": "gengyang", "score": 12},
{"id": 3, "name": "jordan", "score": 5},
]
I want to find gengyang's score. This is what I tried :
>>> print((results["gengyang"])["score"])
but I got an error message instead :
Traceback (most r
On 24/11/2015 12:23, Arie van Wingerden wrote:
Hi Mark, what use would that have? Please show your code ...
2015-11-24 13:15 GMT+01:00 Mark Lawrence :
On 24/11/2015 11:04, Cai Gengyang wrote:
results = {
"gengyang": { "maths": 10, "english": 15},
"ensheng": {"maths": 12, "english": 1
Op 20-11-15 om 01:27 schreef Ned Batchelder:
> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7:11:52 PM UTC-5, BartC wrote:
>> On 19/11/2015 22:55, Michael Torrie wrote:
>>> On 11/19/2015 02:21 PM, BartC wrote:
(Python returns 42; so that means my languages are more dynamic than
Python? That's hard t
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