On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:18 am, Ned Batchelder wrote: > In English, "value" means something like, what is this equal to? > There isn't another good word to use in place of "value" here.
There are many different meanings for the English noun "value" (Websters 1913 dictionary includes ten), but I think that the only one that is relevant is: "Any particular quantitative determination". although since we're not just talking about numbers even that needs to be modified to allow qualitative as well as quantitative determination. E.g. the value of a particular str object is the string "foobarbaz". > 2) In Python, "value" means, what object does a name refer to, or what > object did an evaluation produce. I don't think that is correct. The Docs clearly say that "value" is an attribute or quality of objects, not a synonym for "object": Quote: "Every object has an identity, a type and a value." https://docs.python.org/2/reference/datamodel.html#objects-values-and-types If the docs are a bit inconsistent in ensuring that "value" means something that objects *have* rather than something that objects *are*, that may be something to fix. > The confusion over mutable default arguments arises because the > defaulted argument always gets the same referent, but it might not > always be the same evalue. I'm not sure what value [ha, see what I did there?!] there is in inventing two new words for things that we already have standard terms for. "Referent" is just a funny way of saying "object", and "evalue" is just a misspelling of "value". -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
