Re: Accessing class attribute

2013-09-12 Thread Peter Otten
Peter Otten wrote: > chandan kumar wrote: > >> Hi , >> >> I'm new to python ,please correct me if there is any thing wrong with the >> way accessing class attributes. >> >> Please see the below code .I have inherited confid in ExpectId class, >> changed self.print_msg to Hello. Now inherited

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Joshua Landau
On 12 September 2013 00:44, Ben Finney wrote: > mnish1...@gmail.com writes: > > My main advice: Avoid non-free (that is, proprietary) software for your > development tools. Learning a set of development tools is a significant > investment, and you should not tie that investment to a single vendor;

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Ben Finney
Joshua Landau writes: > On 12 September 2013 00:44, Ben Finney wrote: > > mnish1...@gmail.com writes: > > > > My main advice: Avoid non-free (that is, proprietary) software for your > > development tools. Learning a set of development tools is a significant > > investment, and you should not tie

Re: Please omit false legalese footers (was: Language design)

2013-09-12 Thread Skip Montanaro
More likely, JP Morgan's mail system added that footer to the message on the way out the virtual door. My recommendation would be to not post using your company email address. Get a free email address. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Help please, why doesn't it show the next input?

2013-09-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 12 September 2013 07:04, William Bryant wrote: > Thanks everyone for helping but I did listen to you :3 Sorry. This is my > code, it works, I know it's not the best way to do it and it's the long way > round but it is one of my first programs ever and I'm happy with it: Hi William, I'm glad

Re: Please omit false legalese footers (was: Language design)

2013-09-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 12 September 2013 10:27, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > More likely, JP Morgan's mail system added that footer to the message > on the way out the virtual door. My recommendation would be to not > post using your company email address. Get a free email address. It wouldn't surprise me if JPMorgan w

Pep8 plugin for visual studio

2013-09-12 Thread Chandru Rajendran
Hi all, I am new to python. Please give information about Pep8 style checker plugin for VS2012. Thanks in Advance, Chandru CAUTION - Disclaimer * This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Joshua Landau
On 12 September 2013 09:04, Ben Finney wrote: > Joshua Landau writes: > >> On 12 September 2013 00:44, Ben Finney wrote: >> > mnish1...@gmail.com writes: >> > >> > My main advice: Avoid non-free (that is, proprietary) software for your >> > development tools. Learning a set of development tools

Re: Accessing class attribute

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Angel
On 12/9/2013 02:15, chandan kumar wrote: > Hi , > > I'm new to python Welcome. I hope you enjoy your time here, and that the language treats you as well as it's treated me. > ,please correct me if there is any thing wrong with the way accessing class attributes. None of the following uses class

Re: Parsing an html line and pulling out only numbers that meet a certain criteria

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Angel
On 11/9/2013 23:03, Cory Mottice wrote: > I am using line.rfind to parse a particular line of html code. For example, > this is the line of html code I am parsing: > > 79° class="low">Lo 56° > > and this is the code I use to split the line to (in this case) pull out the > '79'. > > position0 = l

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Paul Pittlerson
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:14:04 PM UTC+3, mnishpsyched wrote: > Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which > is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using > python? If you are a programmer in the sense that you are a profici

Python Programmers requirement Exp 2 - 3 yrs

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Access to objects in a frame on a web page

2013-09-12 Thread Ddp Ludo
Hello, I am trying to program a robot which will allow me to test whether a default password has been changed on my intranet servers . And I 'm stuck since 2 days ... HTML structure of the page: I try to go to fill the username

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
You'll probably get way too many answers (everyone has its own personal favorite). I suggest you check: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python and https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments, grab the ones you think are worth it, experiment with them

ANN: Wing IDE 4.1.14 released

2013-09-12 Thread Wingware
Hi, Wingware has released version 4.1.14 of Wing IDE, our integrated development environment designed specifically for the Python programming language. Wing IDE provides a professional quality code editor with vi, emacs, and other key bindings, auto-completion, call tips, refactoring, context-a

Re: Send alt key to subprocess.PIPE stdin

2013-09-12 Thread Wanderer
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:23:57 PM UTC-4, Dave Angel wrote: > On 11/9/2013 10:26, Wanderer wrote: > > > > > How do I send the command 'Alt+D' to subprocess.PIPE? > > > > That's not a command, it's a keystroke combination. And without knowing > > what RSConfig.exe is looking to get

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Wayne Werner
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Ben Finney wrote: Better to learn these once, in a single powerful tool that can be maintained independent of any one vendor for as long as its community is interested. And if you're a developer, even a community of one is enough ;) -W -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: Send alt key to subprocess.PIPE stdin

2013-09-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Wanderer wrote: > Thanks, I didn't know that. I thought there would be some \n \t kind of > combination or a unicode string for all the key combinations on my keyboard. Unicode identifies every character, but keystrokes aren't characters. Consider, for instance,

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Nobody
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:53:53 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > and most routines that handle file names accept either text strings or > bytes strings: I was going to say "that just leaves environ and argv". But I see that os.environb was added in 3.2. Which just leaves argv. -- https://mail.pyth

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Markus Rother
On 10.09.2013 08:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > What design mistakes, traps or gotchas do you think Python has? Gotchas > are not necessarily a bad thing, there may be good reasons for it, but > they're surprising. I have one more: Dictionaries should iterate over their items instead of their key

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Ethan Furman
On 09/12/2013 10:51 AM, Markus Rother wrote: On 11.09.2013 23:15, Ethan Furman wrote: On 09/11/2013 01:41 PM, Markus Rother wrote: >>> () == [] False But: >>> bool(().__eq__([])) True This is not a trap, this is simply the wrong way to do it. The magic methods

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Cook
On 2013-09-12, Michael Torrie wrote: > Not me. wxWidgets' event model is way too MFC-esque for me. Does it > still use event numbers that you define? Shudder. You don't have to define IDs explicitly. That's been the case for a long time. > Gtk and Qt's method of signals and slots is by far t

Re: print function and unwanted trailing space

2013-09-12 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, at 07:36 AM, Wayne Werner wrote: > On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, candide wrote: > > # - > > for i in range(5): > >print(i, end=' ') # <- The last ' ' is unwanted > > print() > > # - > > Then why not define end='' instead?

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > Have you got anything to say on what one I should be using(excluding PyQT > because it has a D&D designer >:( )? Is Tkinter really dead? Should I stick > with wxPython? If that's a reason for excluding a GUI toolkit, you're in trouble. Drag and drop la

Re: Expected an indented block

2013-09-12 Thread John Gordon
In altugozger...@gmail.com writes: > Hey guys ! its my first topic and I'm gonna start with a problem :) Im > totally beginner in Python and each time I try to run this program it > gives me the error down below: > http://imgur.com/ufUAMTs That error involves the previous program line, which y

Re: Expected an indented block

2013-09-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:43 AM, wrote: > Hey guys ! its my first topic and I'm gonna start with a problem :) Im > totally beginner in Python and each time I try to run this program it gives > me the error down below: > > http://imgur.com/ufUAMTs > > I'm using Sublime Text, same problems occure

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-09-12, Markus Rother wrote: > On 10.09.2013 08:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> What design mistakes, traps or gotchas do you think Python has? Gotchas >> are not necessarily a bad thing, there may be good reasons for it, but >> they're surprising. > > I have one more: > > Dictionaries shou

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Ian Foote
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/09/13 21:55, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: > There are a few known GUI toolkits out there, and the main ones > from what I can tell are: > > Tkinter -- Simple to use, but limited PyQT -- You have a GUI > designer, so I'm not going to count that PyG

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Sep 12, 2013 9:06 AM, wrote: > > On Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05:14 AM UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 09/11/2013 02:55 PM, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > PyQT -- You have a GUI designer, so I'm not going to count that > > > > What do you mean? Gtk has a GUI designer too. what

Re: Please omit false legalese footers (was: Language design)

2013-09-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-09-11, Ben Finney wrote: > "Prasad, Ramit" writes: > >> This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and >> conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, >> accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, >> legal privilege,

Expected an indented block

2013-09-12 Thread altugozgercek
Hey guys ! its my first topic and I'm gonna start with a problem :) Im totally beginner in Python and each time I try to run this program it gives me the error down below: http://imgur.com/ufUAMTs I'm using Sublime Text, same problems occured in TextWrangler and in Vim too. I tried python3 pyt

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-09-12, Markus Rother wrote: > On 11.09.2013 23:15, Ethan Furman wrote: >> On 09/11/2013 01:41 PM, Markus Rother wrote: >>> >>> () == [] >>> False >>> >>> But: >>> >>> >>> bool(().__eq__([])) >>> True >> >> This is not a trap, this is simply the wrong way to do it.

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Paul Rudin
Joshua Landau writes: > If the time learning a set of tools is enough to make the choice > between tools, I suggest avoiding, say, Vim. That's a big if. If you expect to spend a lot of time editing text, code, etc. over the next few years then it's definitely learning at least one of vim or em

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Adrián Espinosa
El miércoles, 11 de septiembre de 2013 16:14:04 UTC+2, mnishpsyched escribió: > Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which > is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using > python? Hi and welcome. I suggest you to use IntelliJ IDE

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Markus Rother
On 11.09.2013 23:15, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 09/11/2013 01:41 PM, Markus Rother wrote: >> >>> () == [] >> False >> >> But: >> >> >>> bool(().__eq__([])) >> True > > This is not a trap, this is simply the wrong way to do it. The magic > methods (aka dunder methods) are th

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Cook
On 2013-09-12, Dave Cook wrote: > There's also a markup language available, enaml: > > http://docs.enthought.com/enaml/ I should have mentioned that it's *Python*-based markup, not an XML horrorshow. http://pyvideo.org/video/1231/enaml-a-framework-for-building-declarative-user Dave Cook -- htt

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/12/2013 2:24 PM, Markus Rother wrote: Dictionaries should iterate over their items instead of their keys. Dictionaries *can* iterate by keys, values, or items. You would prefer that the default iteration be by items rather than keys. Looking forward to contrary opinions. When the is

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Markus Rother wrote: > On 12.09.2013 01:27, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Markus Rother >> wrote: >>> 3. The default return value of methods is None instead of self. >>> If it was self, it would be possible to chain method call

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Cook
On 2013-09-12, Robert Kern wrote: > There is nothing forcing you to use the GUI designers if you don't want to. There's also a markup language available, enaml: http://docs.enthought.com/enaml/ Dave Cook -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 9/12/13 2:24 PM, Markus Rother wrote: On 10.09.2013 08:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote: What design mistakes, traps or gotchas do you think Python has? Gotchas are not necessarily a bad thing, there may be good reasons for it, but they're surprising. I have one more: Dictionaries should iterate o

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-09-12 17:03, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05:14 AM UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: On 09/11/2013 02:55 PM, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly. I know Qt and Gtk both can flip the button orders, etc to look more native. And all good toolkits give you lay

ImportError: No module named Image

2013-09-12 Thread Trandang Bao
Dear Python.org, Recently, I have been studying OpenCV to detect and recognize faces using C++. In order to execute source code demonstration from the OpenCV website I need to run Python to crop image first. Unfortunately, the message error is 'ImportError: No module named Image' when I run the Py

Stripping characters from windows clipboard with win32clipboard from excel

2013-09-12 Thread stephen . boulet
I have an excel file. When I select cells, copy from excel, and then use win32clipboard to get the contents of the clipboard, I have a 131071 character string. When I save the file as a text file, and use the python 3.3 open command to read its contents, I only have 80684 characters. Excel (an

Re: Stripping characters from windows clipboard with win32clipboard from excel

2013-09-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:01:20 -0700, stephen.boulet wrote: > I have an excel file. When I select cells, copy from excel, and then use > win32clipboard to get the contents of the clipboard, I have a 131071 > character string. How exactly are you using win32clipboard, and what exact result are you

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Veritatem Ignotam
Is this thread going to evolve into your classic vim vs. emacs, sweet! Also, Paul is completely right. V.I. On 09/12/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: Joshua Landau writes: If the time learning a set of tools is enough to make the choice between tools, I suggest avoiding, say, Vim. That's a

ANN: Obelus 0.1 -- Asterisk AMI / AGI implementation

2013-09-12 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, I'm pleased to announce the first release of Obelus, a MIT-licensed library to interact with Asterisk using the AMI and AGI protocols. This is version 0.1, and as such some APIs are a bit draftish and not guaranteed to be stable accross future releases. Also, documentation is far from ex

Re: Send alt key to subprocess.PIPE stdin

2013-09-12 Thread Nobody
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 01:27:53 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > That said, though: These sorts of keystrokes often can be represented > with escape sequences (I just tried it in xterm and Alt-D came out as > "\e[d"), Technically, that would be Meta-D (even if your Meta key has "Alt" printed on it).

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Westley Martínez
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:14:04 AM UTC-7, mnishpsyched wrote: > Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which > is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using > python? I use vim and idle. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

When i leave a LineEdit widget and run slot

2013-09-12 Thread Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh
Dear all, QtCore.QObject.connect(self.checkBox, QtCore.SIGNAL(_fromUtf8("clicked(bool)")), lambda: self.interfaceCodesConstructor.setFilterList(self,"name",self.lineEdit.text())) I code pyqt, I have the following code: /// QtCore.QObject.connect(self.checkBox, QtCore.SIGNAL(_f

Re: Stripping characters from windows clipboard with win32clipboard from excel

2013-09-12 Thread stephen . boulet
Hi Steven. Here is my code: import win32clipboard, win32con def getclipboard(): win32clipboard.OpenClipboard() s = win32clipboard.GetClipboardData(win32con.CF_TEXT) win32clipboard.CloseClipboard() return s I use this helper function to grab the text on the clipboard and do useful

Re: ImportError: No module named Image

2013-09-12 Thread Jugurtha Hadjar
On 09/13/2013 12:31 AM, Trandang Bao wrote: Dear Python.org, I installed python-2.7.amd64 and downloaded PIL-1.1.7.win32-py2.7 to install Image library. However, the message error is 'Python version 2.7 required, which was not found in the registry'. One is a 32 bit installer, the other is a

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread eamonnrea
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05:14 AM UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 09/11/2013 02:55 PM, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: > > > PyQT -- You have a GUI designer, so I'm not going to count that > > > > What do you mean? Gtk has a GUI designer too. what of it? > > > > > I, personally, real

Re: Stripping characters from windows clipboard with win32clipboard from excel

2013-09-12 Thread MRAB
On 13/09/2013 01:58, stephen.bou...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven. Here is my code: import win32clipboard, win32con def getclipboard(): win32clipboard.OpenClipboard() s = win32clipboard.GetClipboardData(win32con.CF_TEXT) win32clipboard.CloseClipboard() return s I use this help

Ann: rom 0.20 - Redis object mapper for Python

2013-09-12 Thread Josiah Carlson
Hey everyone, As time progresses, so does my Redis object mapper. The "rom" package is a Redis object mapper for Python. It sports an interface similar to Django's ORM, SQLAlchemy + Elixir, or Appengine's datastore. The changelog for recent releases can be seen below my signature. You can find

Re: better and user friendly IDE recommended?

2013-09-12 Thread Joe Junior
On 12 September 2013 13:00, Veritatem Ignotam wrote: > Is this thread going to evolve into your classic vim vs. emacs, sweet! Who doesn't love those? ;-) On 09/12/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: > > Joshua Landau writes: > >> If the time learning a set of tools is enough to make the choice >>

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Markus Rother
On 12.09.2013 01:27, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Markus Rother wrote: >> 3. The default return value of methods is None instead of self. >> If it was self, it would be possible to chain method calls (which >> is called a cascade in smalltalk). >> >> >>

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/12/2013 10:03 AM, eamonn...@gmail.com wrote: > I didn't realise GTK has a GUI designer too :( > > I don't like it when you can D&D to position things. I don't > understand why someone wouldn't want to write the positioning code, > and have fun with the debugging. That's the best part about w

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/12/2013 09:02 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > In any event I think you should give both Glade-3 and Qt Designer a > serious look. I think your hate of gui designers is about 10 years out > of date now, even if you still prefer not to use them. This is a bit old but still how Qt works: http://t

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Mark Janssen
>> Really? Are you saying you (and the community at-large) always derive >> from Object as your base class? > > Not directly, that would be silly. Silly? "Explicit is better than implicit"... right? >> But wait is it the "base" (at the bottom of the hierarchy) or is it the >> "parent" at the to

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Peter
I stuck with Tkinter combined with PMW for a very long time, but the lack of extra widgets finally drove me to look elsewhere. I tried PyQT but didn't have a good experience. I can't remember details, but things just seemed to have little "gotchas" - which the mailing list were very helpful wit

Re: Stripping characters from windows clipboard with win32clipboard from excel

2013-09-12 Thread Neil Hodgson
Stephen Boulet: From the clipboard contents copied from the spreadsheet, the characters s[:80684] were the visible cell contents, and s[80684:] all started with "b'\x0" and lack any useful info for what I'm trying to accomplish. Looks like Excel is rounding up its clipboard allocation to

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread Michael Torrie
On 09/12/2013 09:39 PM, Peter wrote: > I stuck with Tkinter combined with PMW for a very long time, but the > lack of extra widgets finally drove me to look elsewhere. > > I tried PyQT but didn't have a good experience. I can't remember > details, but things just seemed to have little "gotchas" -

Re: Language design

2013-09-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:23:21 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote: >>> Really? Are you saying you (and the community at-large) always derive >>> from Object as your base class? >> >> Not directly, that would be silly. > > Silly? "Explicit is better than implicit"... right? If I'm inheriting from str, I i

Re: Python GUI?

2013-09-12 Thread CM
> Tkinter -- Simple to use, but limited > > PyQT -- You have a GUI designer, so I'm not going to count that As others have pointed out, that's nonsensical. If you don't like the GUI designer, just don't use it. > wxPython -- Very nice, very professional, approved by Python creator, but > a

Re: Python Programmers requirement Exp 2 - 3 yrs

2013-09-12 Thread Ben Finney
Mobi Esprits writes: > We have python programmers requirement with an experience of 2 -3 yrs. Please do not use this discussion forum for job advertisements. Instead, please use the Python Job Board which is designed for this purpose http://www.python.org/community/jobs/>. -- \ “Fait

Python -COMMETHOD ,No return value obtained/received

2013-09-12 Thread sanju dhoomakethu
I am very new to COM programming, Our project requires the Python script to make communication with a COM dll which is written in C#. The generated COM signature in Python is as below COMMETHOD([dispid(1610743820)], HRESULT, 'test', ( ['in', 'out'], POINTER(_midlSAFEARRAY(c_double)), '