On 12 September 2013 13:00, Veritatem Ignotam <veritatem.igno...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is this thread going to evolve into your classic vim vs. emacs, sweet!
Who doesn't love those? ;-) On 09/12/2013 11:47 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: > > Joshua Landau <jos...@landau.ws> writes: > >> If the time learning a set of tools is enough to make the choice >> between tools, I suggest avoiding, say, Vim. > > That's a big if. > > If you expect to spend a lot of time editing text, code, etc. over the > next few years then it's definitely learning at least one of vim or > emacs to a reasonable degree of competency. I kinda disagree. Though I use and love emacs as my main editor, simple things you take for granted in modern editors are simply not there, and you end up spending some precious time finding out how to have it (like a right-margin marker). Of course that's not a real issue, since in the end you'll have everything and much more after configuring and saving your .emacs in the cloud so everything is always to your liking. But then comes another problem: we don't live in a bubble. If you'll ever have to use another programmer's box, you're screwed (That's why I avoid getting used to non-standard packages). Not to mention the mental switch. Not everything I need to use has emacs-binding (I guess the same is true for vim-binding) and, most of the time, the binding sucks anyway. But the point I really disagree is that typing/editing speed impacts so much programmer's productivity. In my experience I spend a lot more time as a programmer (big emphasis on "lot") reading, thinking and designing then writing code. So I find a good navigation tool more important. My solution/suggestion for python: emacs (in cua-mode for me) with Jedi. Joe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list