On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:37:27 +1000, Tim Delaney wrote:
>
>> With the increase in use of higher-level languages, these days
>> Heisenbugs most often appear with multithreaded code that doesn't
>> properly protect critical sections, but as you sa
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/02/2013 12:18 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:49:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Sommers wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 03:20:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Rick Johnson
>>> [...] Or use the
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Then, when
> you try to read the file names in UTF-8, you hit an illegal byte, half of
> a surrogate pair perhaps, and everything blows up.
Minor quibble: Surrogates are an artifact of UTF-16, so they're 16-bit
values like 0xD808 or 0xDF45.
The sys module defines two hooks that are used in the interactive
interpreter:
* sys.displayhook(value) gets called with the result of evaluating the
line when you press ENTER;
* sys.excepthook(type, value, traceback) gets called with the details of
the exception when your line raises an excep
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:17:12 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Michael Torrie
> wrote:
>> On 06/02/2013 12:18 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>>> On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:49:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 03:20:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
On 03/06/2013 04:10, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 20:16:21 -0400, Jason Swails wrote:
... If you don't believe me, you've never hit a bug that 'magically'
disappears when you add a debugging print statement ;-).
Ah, yes. The Heisenbug. ;-)
We used to run into those back in the da
On 03/06/2013 07:11, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
Thankls Michael,
are these two behave the same in your opinion?
sys.stdout = os.fdopen(1, 'w', encoding='utf-8')
which is what i have now
opposed to this one
import ocdecs
sys.stdout = codecs.getwriter("utf-8")(sys.stdout.detach())
Which one should
On 3 Jun 2013 09:04, "Steven D'Aprano"
wrote:
>
> The sys module defines two hooks that are used in the interactive
> interpreter:
>
> * sys.displayhook(value) gets called with the result of evaluating the
> line when you press ENTER;
>
> * sys.excepthook(type, value, traceback) gets called with t
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 03/06/2013 07:11, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
>>
>> Thankls Michael,
>>
>> are these two behave the same in your opinion?
>>
>> sys.stdout = os.fdopen(1, 'w', encoding='utf-8')
>>
>> which is what i have now
>> opposed to this one
>>
>> import o
Τη Δευτέρα, 3 Ιουνίου 2013 9:46:46 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
> If I am right, the solution is to fix the file names to ensure that they
> are all valid UTF-8 names. If you view the directory containing these
> files in a file browser that supports UTF-8, do you see any file n
Here is the whole code of files.py in case someone wants to comment on
somethign about how to properly encode/decode the filanames, which seems to be
the problem.
http://pastebin.com/qXasy5iU
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On 2013-06-03 05:20, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 23:23:42 -0400, Jason Swails wrote:
... (And yes, a good portion of our code is -still- in Fortran -- but
at least it's F90+ :).
I am a huge proponent of using the right tool for the job. There is
nothing wrong with some well-place
On 3 June 2013 04:18, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, alex23 wrote:
>> On Jun 1, 10:24 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> Hmm. What other MUD commands have obvious Unix equivalents?
>>>
>>> say --> echo
>>> emote --> python -c
>>> attack --> sudo rm -f
>>
>> who --> who
>> te
I would appreciate any help or comment.
The idea is
to create a server in python that serves maps on the internet. The maps have to
be in MBTiles format, which is a SQLite database that store all the map tiles
in a single file. Taking this as an example
http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/mapbox.geograph
On Jun 3, 2:12 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> You are right Steven, i just renames the file 'Euxi tou Ihsou.mp3' => 'Eõ÷Þ
> ôïõ Éçóïý.mp3' and…
Is that how you renamed your file?
In any case thats what I see!!
[Dont whether to say: Its greek to me or its not greek to me!!]
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On 06/03/2013 04:49 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 03/06/2013 04:10, Dan Sommers wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 20:16:21 -0400, Jason Swails wrote:
... If you don't believe me, you've never hit a bug that 'magically'
disappears when you add a debugging print statement ;-).
Ah, yes. The Heisenbug.
On 6/3/2013 3:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The sys module defines two hooks that are used in the interactive
interpreter:
* sys.displayhook(value) gets called with the result of evaluating the
line when you press ENTER;
* sys.excepthook(type, value, traceback) gets called with the details of
t
On 2013-06-03 08:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The sys module defines two hooks that are used in the interactive
interpreter:
* sys.displayhook(value) gets called with the result of evaluating the
line when you press ENTER;
* sys.excepthook(type, value, traceback) gets called with the details of
t
Τη Δευτέρα, 3 Ιουνίου 2013 3:54:30 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης rusi έγραψε:
> Is that how you renamed your file?
> In any case thats what I see!
> [Dont whether to say: Its greek to me or its not greek to me!!]
Now! that weird again.
I rename sit using proper Greek letters but as it appears to you it a
On 2013-06-03, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:25:45 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>> b'7' is the byte with the character 7 in a certain code, so that's
>> ok. In other PLs one assigns an int to a byte, with that int in either
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:41:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Nikos just
> needs to learn the skill of figuring out where his problems really are.
>
Between the keyboard and the chair, obv.
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> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:43:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] New FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT buildbot
> From: drsali...@gmail.com
> To: carlosnepomuc...@outlook.com
> CC: python-...@python.org
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno
> mail
Τη Δευτέρα, 3 Ιουνίου 2013 5:35:46 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Walter Hurry έγραψε:
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:41:45 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nikos just
>
> > needs to learn the skill of figuring out where his problems really are.
>
> >
>
> Between the keyboard and the chair, obv.
May
Νικόλαος Κούρας writes:
> [code]
> root@nikos [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# chmod g+w /var/log/httpd/suexec.log
> root@nikos [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# ls -l /var/log/httpd/suexec.log
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 1 02:52 /var/log/httpd/suexec.log
> [/code]
>
>
> and still iam receiving the same er
It is great that Pillow wants to be "setuptools compatible" but without a
suitable compiled library for x86_64 GNU/Linux, I am stuck between a rock and a
hard place.
Any suggestions?
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On 3-6-2013 18:23, consult...@gmail.com wrote:
> It is great that Pillow wants to be "setuptools compatible" but without a
> suitable compiled library for x86_64 GNU/Linux, I am stuck between a rock and
> a hard place.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
Try your distribution's package repository.
$ sudo
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jason Swails wrote:
> I'm actually with RR in terms of eliminating the overhead involved with
> 'dead' function calls, since there are instances when optimizing in Python
> is desirable. I actually recently adjusted one of my own scripts to
> eliminate branching an
On May 31, 2013 6:27 PM, "Chris Angelico" wrote:
> Yeah. I know that particular one because I have l aliased to ls -CF
> (aka --columns --classify), mainly because it came that way as a
> commented-out entry in my first Debian. Have since become quite
> accustomed to it; to me, 'l' means 'look' (I
On 06/03/2013 09:01 AM, nagia.rets...@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe you should tell us how you find out yours.
Chris and others have told you how they go about solving their problems.
Quite a few times. In fact repeating themselves even. I think we've
run out of different ways to saying it now.
It'
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jason Swails
> wrote:
> > I'm actually with RR in terms of eliminating the overhead involved with
> > 'dead' function calls, since there are instances when optimizing in
> Python
> > is desirable. I actually rece
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jason Swails
> wrote:
> > I'm actually with RR in terms of eliminating the overhead involved with
> > 'dead' function calls, since there are instances when optimizing in
> Python
> > is desirable. I actually rece
ack, sorry for the double-post.
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On 5/15/2013 9:19 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> It is my greatest pleasure to announce the release of Python 2.7.5.
>
> 2.7.5 is the latest maintenance release in the Python 2.7 series.
Thanks very much. It's important that Python 2.x be maintained.
3.x is a different language, with di
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PUNCHES RABBIT HOLE IN HIS FACE. HE SLAUGHTERED DAVID IAIN GREIG, WITH
A ROUNDHOUSE KICK. HE BEAT HARRIS TO DEATH, AND SENT FIRE TO DR.
NYIKOS. NOW, RICHARD DAWKINS SETS OUT WITH FIRE, TO HUNT THRINAXODON.
THRINAOXDON USES WATER
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 15:09:48 -0400, Jason Swails wrote:
> But unlike RR, who suggests some elaborate interpreter-wide, ambiguous
> ignore-rule to squash out all of these functions, I'm simply suggesting
> that sometimes it's worth commenting-out debug print calls instead of
> 'just leaving them th
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> ... quite frankly I have no sympathy for
> the view that CPU cycles are so precious that we mustn't waste them. If
> that were the case, Python is the wrong language.
CPU cycles *are* valuable still, though. The efficiency of your code
dete
On 06/03/2013 10:31 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2013-06-03, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:25:45 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen
declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:
b'7' is the byte with the character 7 in a certain code, so that's
ok. In other PLs one assigns an int
> From: a...@sci.fi
> Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:20:00 +0300
> To: python-list@python.org
>
> Νικόλαος Κούρας writes:
>
>> [code]
>> root@nikos [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# chmod g+w /
On 2013-06-03, Dave Angel wrote:
> On 06/03/2013 10:31 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2013-06-03, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 21:25:45 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen
>>> declaimed the following in
>>> gmane.comp.python.general:
>>>
>>>
b'7' is the byte with the character 7 in a c
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:06:46 +1000
> From: c...@zip.com.au
> To: c...@rebertia.com
[...]
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/raw-file/tip/Lib/string.py
What's the 'tip' tag?
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> That's a common assumption, but historically, a "byte" was merely the
> smallest addressable unit of memory. The size of a "byte" on widely
> used used CPUs ranged from 4 bits to 60 bits.
>
> Quoting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
>
>
> From: na...@animats.com
> Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:20:43 -0700
[...]
> 3.x is a different language, with different libraries, and lots of
> things that still don't work. Many old applications will never
> be converted
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:54:30 -0700, rusi wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2:12 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
>> You are right Steven, i just renames the file 'Euxi tou I
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:12:31 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> Τη Δευτέρα, 3 Ιουνίου 2013 9:46:46 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano
> έγραψε:
>
>> If I am right, the solution is to fix the file names to ensure that
>> they are all valid UTF-8 names. If you view the directory containing
>> these
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Carlos Nepomuceno
wrote:
>
>> From: na...@animats.com
>> Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:20:43 -0700
> [...]
>> 3.x is a different language, with different libraries, and lots of
>> things tha
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:32:42 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> Here is the whole code of files.py in case someone wants to comment on
> somethign about how to properly encode/decode the filanames, which seems
> to be the problem.
>
> http://pastebin.com/qXasy5iU
Second line in the file says:
imp
On 03/06/2013 23:37, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
From: na...@animats.com
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 2.7.5
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:20:43 -0700
[...]
3.x is a different language, with different libraries, and lots of
things that still don't work. Many o
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:41:41 -0700
> Subject: Re: How to get an integer from a sequence of bytes
> From: drsali...@gmail.com
> To: python-list@python.org
[...]
> Today though, it would be difficult to sell a conventional (Von
> Neumann) computer that didn'
On 06/03/2013 04:13 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> '/var/log/httpd' is the default place for the Red Hat and CentOS installation
> of httpd.
>
> '/usr/local/apache/logs' is the default directory of the Apache httpd
> installation.
>
> httpd has probably been upgraded by 'make install'.
Oh wow.
Thank you! :)
> To: python-list@python.org
> From: breamore...@yahoo.co.uk
[...]
>> What still doesn't work in Python 3?
>
> http://python3wos.appspot.com/
>
>>
>> Is Python 2.7.5 last (final, never to be updated) revision or will it still
>> be supported?
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:23:16 -0600
> From: torr...@gmail.com
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script
>
> On 06/03/2013 04:13 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
>> '/var/log/httpd' is the default
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno <
carlosnepomuc...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:41:41 -0700
> > Subject: Re: How to get an integer from a sequence of bytes
> > From: drsali...@gmail.com
> > To: python-list@python.org
> [...]
Good day everyone, I need assistance for python codes of aes 128 bits key
that can be run on SAGE Application. Thanks
Sent from my Windows Phone
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:58:30 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:04:00 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
Oh Steven, you've really outdone yourself this time with the
theatrics. I hope you scored some "cool points" with your
minions. Heck, you almost had me convinced until i slapp
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:52:17 +0800, usman mjoda wrote:
> Good day everyone, I need assistance for python codes of aes 128 bits
> key that can be run on SAGE Application. Thanks
google pycrypto
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Sorry. Should have been more clear.
This is a hosting account server. I am not in the sudoers file.
Was able to get PIL v1.1.7 to create a tiff file. Problem solved.
Thanks.
On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:41:17 PM UTC-4, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 3-6-2013 18:23, consult...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
Rick Johnson wrote:
> Take your
> standard yes/no/cancel dialog, i would expect it to return
> True|False|None respectively,
you clearly mean True / False / FileNotFound.
( http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_.aspx )
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Is there a more efficient way of doing this? Any help is gratly appreciated.
import random
def partdeux():
print('''A man lunges at you with a knife!
Do you DUCK or PARRY?''')
option1=('duck')
option2=('parry')
optionsindex=[option1, option2]
randomizer=random.choice(optionsin
On Monday, June 3, 2013 10:16:13 PM UTC-5, Vito De Tullio wrote:
> Rick Johnson wrote:
> > Take your
> > standard yes/no/cancel dialog, i would expect it to return
> > True|False|None respectively,
> you clearly mean True / False / FileNotFound.
No, i clearly meant what i said :-). FileDialogs onl
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:16:13 +0200, Vito De Tullio wrote:
> Rick Johnson wrote:
>
>> Take your
>> standard yes/no/cancel dialog, i would expect it to return
>> True|False|None respectively,
>
> you clearly mean True / False / FileNotFound.
>
> ( http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3
On Jun 4, 3:37 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> (Note: this post is sent using UTF-8. If anyone reading this sees
> mojibake, please make sure your email or news client is set to use UTF-8.)
>
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:54:30 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 2:12 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> >> You are
On 06/03/2013 05:33 PM, Carlos Nepomuceno wrote:
> I did a httpd 'make install' on CentOS 6 and it worked fine. Needed a
> few tweaks that I don't remember though.
>
> If you don't have any previous experience with Apache httpd settings
> I wouldn't try that on a production server.
Precisely. Gi
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:37:24 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:58:30 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:04:00 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> > A "wise programmer" may think he's solved the problem by writing a
>> > function called "debugprint" that looks
On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 21:35:13 -0700, rusi wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:37 am, Steven D'Aprano +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> (Note: this post is sent using UTF-8. If anyone reading this sees
>> mojibake, please make sure your email or news client is set to use
>> UTF-8.)
>>
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2
Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 1:46:53 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
> Not so -- it actually shows correctly, provided you use the right
> encoding. Tell your browser to view the page as UTF-8, and the file name
> is displayed correctly.
I can't believe Chrome whcih by default uses ut
Could you please install them because i need to work?
a) pip (so that i can successfully run 'pip install pymysql'
b) development tools
I wiped the while perl away (leaving intact 2.6) but i wiped out pip at the
proces to.
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Τη Τρίτη, 4 Ιουνίου 2013 1:37:37 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε:
>It looks like your client is ignoring the charset header, and
>interpreting the bytes as Latin-1 when they are actually ISO-8859-7.
>py> s = 'Eυχή του Ιησού.mp3'
>py> print(s.encode('ISO-8859-7').decode('latin-1'))
That doesn't even works because input() is the same as eval(raw_input()). So
you'll get a NameError exception.
I think you know that. Perhaps you mean raw_input() instead of input().
In that case the answer is yes, it can be more 'efficient' because the
if-then-else clause always breaks the whil
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