Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

Thanks for all your comments. It appears to me that there is a slight confusion between types and classes then, plus other entities (protocols ?) So my question is : is there a notion of "type" in python, like in other languages (integers, booleans, floats, strings, characters (in c)) ? if so,

Re: os.path.realpath(path) bug on win7 ?

在 2013年1月7日星期一UTC+8上午7时40分06秒，Victor Stinner写道： > It looks like the following issue: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue14094 > > Victor > > Le 6 janv. 2013 07:59, "iMath" <22815...@qq.com> a écrit : > > > > > os.path.realpath(path)  bug on win7 ? > > Temp.link is a Symbolic link > Its target 

Re: how to detect the character encoding in a web page ?

在 2012年12月24日星期一UTC+8上午8时34分47秒，iMath写道： > how to detect the character encoding in a web page ? > > such as this page > > > > http://python.org/ up to now , maybe chadet is the only way to let python automatically do it . -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Re: regular expression : the dollar sign ($) work with re.match() or re.search() ？

在 2012年9月26日星期三UTC+8下午3时38分50秒，iMath写道： > I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the > > end of a string,but which method does it work with ,re.match() or re.search() > ？ I thought re.match('h.$', 'hbxihi') will match ‘hi’ ,but it does not .so why ? -- http://mail.python.or

Re: pyodbc utf-8

When i look at my output on my webpage, i can see this: W\xe4denswil but it have to be this: Wädenswil you know now what i can see exactly... im using django and they told me its a python problem with utf-8. when i turn off debug, i cant see the page, it give me an error 500. the text "Danke für

Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:53:26 -0800, chaouche yacine wrote: > Thanks for all your comments. It appears to me that there is a slight > confusion between types and classes then, plus other entities (protocols > ?) In Python 3, types and classes are synonyms. They mean the same thing. In Python 2,

License status of pycollada?

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RE: Numpy outlier removal

> In other words: this approach for detecting outliers is nothing more than  > a very rough, and very bad, heuristic, and should be avoided. Heh, very true but the results will only be used for conversational purposes. I am making an assumption that the data is normally distributed and I do expec

Re: regular expression : the dollar sign ($) work with re.match() or re.search() ？

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 01:45:58 -0800, iMath wrote: > 在 2012年9月26日星期三UTC+8下午3时38分50秒，iMath写道： >> I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the >> >> end of a string,but which method does it work with ,re.match() or >> re.search() ？ > > I thought re.match('h.$', 'hbxihi') will matc

Re: running multiple django/bottle instances

Not really, on the staging server we are using the django/bottle webserver.. Anyway I was thinking that a great possible solution might be to set up something like buildbot to: - checkout all the needed branches - run the various servers for all of them on different ports, where maybe the mappi

Re: License status of pycollada?

On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Trying to collect all the dependencies of FreeCad-0.13, but it appears that > pycollada is behind some sort of a login/paywall on github. Is anyone here > familiar with how that works? > Er, what? The repo seems freely browseab

Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

chaouche yacine wrote: > > booleans > ints, floats, longs, complexes > strings, unicode strings > lists, tuples, dictionaries, dictionary views, sets, frozensets, > buffers, bytearrays, slices functions, methods, code > objects,modules,classes, instances, types, nulls (there is exactly one > obj

what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ?

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"Gangnam Style" in line for UK dictionary inclusion

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Re: Problem with Unicode char in Python 3.3.0

In article , marduk wrote: > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: > > Hi ! > > I work on MacOS-X Lion and IDLE/Python 3.3.0 > > I can't get the treble key (U1D11E) ! > > > > >>> "\U1D11E" > > SyntaxError: (unicode error) 'unicodeescape' codec can't > > decode bytes in positio

Re: Problem with Unicode char in Python 3.3.0

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Franck Ditter wrote: > <<< print('\U0001d11e') > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > print('\U0001d11e') > UnicodeEncodeError: 'UCS-2' codec can't encode character '\U0001d11e' > in position 0: Non-BMP character not supported in Tk Th

Re: Problem with Unicode char in Python 3.3.0

On 1/7/2013 7:57 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: <<< print('\U0001d11e') Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in print('\U0001d11e') UnicodeEncodeError: 'UCS-2' codec can't encode character '\U0001d11e' in position 0: Non-BMP character not supported in Tk The message comes fro

Re: what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ?

Am 07.01.2013 11:35 schrieb iMath: what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ? It is so hard for me to tell the difference between them from the python doc so what is the difference between them ? and each one is suitable for which case ? The docs are your friend. See

Re: "Gangnam Style" in line for UK dictionary inclusion

On Monday, January 7, 2013 12:50:00 PM UTC, Constantine wrote: > "Gangnam Style" in line for UK dictionary inclusion > http://adf.ly/2836760/news.yahoo.com/gangnam-style-line-uk-dictionary-inclusion-134517741.html And this has to do with python how? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: "Gangnam Style" in line for UK dictionary inclusion

On 01/07/2013 08:22 AM, GadgetSteve wrote: > On Monday, January 7, 2013 12:50:00 PM UTC, Constantine wrote: >> Trying to get control: >> http://AboutToTrashYou.invalid/2892929384736760/news.yahoo.com/Whatever-you-like-it-wont&44work134517741.html > And this has to do with python how? When r

Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

So I guess if one *really* wanted to compare C variables to Python variables, you could say that all python variables are of type void* except Python does all mallocs/frees and the casting for you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

On 01/07/2013 09:32 AM, marduk wrote: > So I guess if one *really* wanted to compare C variables to Python > variables, you could say that all python variables are of type void* > except Python does all mallocs/frees and the casting for you. A better analogy would be to C++, and all names would be

Re: Over 30 types of variables available in python ?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > On 01/07/2013 09:32 AM, marduk wrote: >> So I guess if one *really* wanted to compare C variables to Python >> variables, you could say that all python variables are of type void* >> except Python does all mallocs/frees and the casting for you. >

Re: Numpy outlier removal

On 7 January 2013 05:11, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:29:27 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > >> On 7 January 2013 01:46, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:44:08 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure that this approach is statistically robust. No,

Re: what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ?

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:35:20 +0800, iMath wrote: > what’s the > difference between socket style="font-size: 12pt; ">.send() and socket.sendall() > ? Please re-send your question as text, instead of as HTML (so-called "rich text"). Since many people are reading this forum via Usenet, sending HT

Re: Numpy outlier removal

On 07/01/2013 15:20, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On 7 January 2013 05:11, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:29:27 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On 7 January 2013 01:46, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:44:08 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: I'm not sure that this approach i

When is overriding __getattr__ is useful?

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Re: what’s the difference between socket.send() and socket.sendall() ?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I > once was on a maths mailing list for about three years before I > realised that the most prolific and helpful person there was as > blind as a bat. And that, I think, is what s/he would have most wanted: three years (more, most li

Vigil, the eternal morally vigilant programming language

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Re: Vigil, the eternal morally vigilant programming language

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > > I just came across Vigil, an extension to python for serious software > engineers, at https://github.com/munificent/vigil and thought everybody > in this group would be interested (sorry if it has been announced > before). It's the logica

Re: problem with exam task for college

ok after another round of reparations, my update works again and it updates the fuel meter, but i still can't get the view of the spaceship to rotate, for now only the direction the spaceship accelerates when pressing "up" changes after a rotation, but the spaceship itself keeps pointing up. Thi

Re: How to modify this script?

Den 06/01/13 16.12, chaouche yacine skrev: I'm not confident this would run on gedit. It works on a python interpreter if you have a file named data.txt in the same directory containing your sample data. It surely has to do with how gedit works then, because the "$" sign isn't used in python, th

Re: When is overriding __getattr__ is useful?

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > Can someone provide an example why one would want to override __getattr__ > and __getattribute__ in a class? They're good for cases when you want to provide an "attribute-like" quality but you don't know the attribute in advance. For exa

Re: problem with exam task for college

Le 07/01/13 17:22, jeltedepr...@hotmail.com a écrit : > ok after another round of reparations, my update works again and it updates > the fuel meter, but i still can't get the view of the spaceship to rotate, > for now only the direction the spaceship accelerates when pressing "up" > changes aft

help

download wxpython but whenever I try to use it I get this I’m a beginner in python pls I need help. Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:/Python27/wxp.py", line 1, in import wx File "C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\wx-2.8-msw-unicode\wx\__init__.py", line 45, in from wx._core im

Re: How to modify this script?

Kurt Hansen wrote: To convert tab-separated text lines into a HTML-table: As you apparently didn't receive answers that worked for you I tried to get what you want to work and test it in Gedit. Here's the result: $< lines = $GEDIT_SELECTED_TEXT.split("\n"); output = '\n'; max_columns = 0 f

[Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:20:57 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > There are sometimes good reasons to get a line of best fit by eye. In > particular if your data contains clusters that are hard to separate, > sometimes it's useful to just pick out roughly where you think a line > through a subset of the

test failed: test_urlwithfrag

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Re: help

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, wrote: > download wxpython but whenever I try to use it I get this I’m a beginner in > python pls I need help. > > ImportError: DLL load failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. Did you download the 64-bit version on a 32-bit system? Chris Angelico -- http:

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Anyone can fool themselves into placing a line through a subset of non- > linear data. Or, sadly more often, *deliberately* cherry picking fake > clusters in order to fool others. Here is a real world example of what > happens when people pi

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Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

Hi, I'm trying to compare two logfiles in Python. One logfile will have lines recording the message being sent: 05:00:06 Message sent - Value A: 5.6, Value B: 6.2, Value C: 9.9 the other logfile has line recording the message being received 05:00:09 Message received - Value A: 5.6, Val

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On 7 January 2013 17:58, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:20:57 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > >> There are sometimes good reasons to get a line of best fit by eye. In >> particular if your data contains clusters that are hard to separate, >> sometimes it's useful to just pick out r

Re: Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

On 7 January 2013 22:10, Victor Hooi wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to compare two logfiles in Python. > > One logfile will have lines recording the message being sent: > > 05:00:06 Message sent - Value A: 5.6, Value B: 6.2, Value C: 9.9 > > the other logfile has line recording the message being

Re: help

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, wrote: >> download wxpython but whenever I try to use it I get this I’m a beginner in >> python pls I need help. >> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. > > Did you download

Re: test failed: test_urlwithfrag

On 7-1-2013 19:26, Elli Lola wrote: > I never used python before and installed it today the first time, so I have > no idea what > to do about this failure: > > > $ ./python -m test -v test_urlwithfrag [..snip..] > ImportError: No module named 'test.test_urlwithfrag' > > 1 test failed: >

Re: Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

Hi Oscar, Thanks for the quick reply =). I'm trying to understand your code properly, and it seems like for each line in logfile1, we loop through all of logfile2? The idea was that it would remember it's position in logfile2 as well - since we can assume that the loglines are in chronological

Re: Searching through two logfiles in parallel?

On 7 January 2013 23:41, Victor Hooi wrote: > Hi Oscar, > > Thanks for the quick reply =). > > I'm trying to understand your code properly, and it seems like for each line > in logfile1, we loop through all of logfile2? No we don't. It iterates once through both files but keeps a buffer of lines

Calculate Big Number

Hello, How to *quickly* calculate large numbers. For example >>> (10**25) * (2**50) 11258999068426240L Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to implement mouse gesture by python or pyqt ?

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Re: Calculate Big Number

On 8 January 2013 00:44, Nac Temha wrote: > Hello, > How to quickly calculate large numbers. For example (10**25) * (2**50) > 11258999068426240L I just tested that line in the interpreter and it ran so quickly it seemed instantaneous (maybe my computer is faster than

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Re: Ubuntu Python -dbg packages

>> Ok, so now I tried python3.3-dbg but I don't think the pyqt >> modules are compiled for 3.3 and that may be preventing >> the import there. >> >> Those extension modules would need to be compiled for >> an exactly matching python interpreter, right? > > For Windows visual C compiler, that is tr

Difference between these two lists?

Hi, Python newbie here again - this is probably a quick one. What's the difference between the lines I've numbered 1. and 2. below, which produce the following results: Results: 1. [ANG, BAR, BPK, CTN, QGH, QHD, KXX] 2. ['ANG', 'BAR', 'BPK', 'CTN', 'QGH', 'QHD', 'KXX'] Code: cursor_from.ex

Re: Difference between these two lists?

I think I can answer my own question on reflection the first one is actually a string I think? I was confused by the square brackets around the placeholder %s. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Calculate Big Number

On 01/07/13 18:44, Nac Temha wrote: How to *quickly* calculate large numbers. For example (10**25) * (2**50) 11258999068426240L that's how...just do the math. For any other sort of answer, you'd have to clarify your question. On my laptop, that operation came back

Re: Difference between these two lists?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > Python newbie here again - this is probably a quick one. What's the > difference between the lines I've numbered 1. and 2. below, which produce the > following results: >1. print stn_fields = '[%s]' % ', '.join(map(str, stn_list_short)) >

Re: Difference between these two lists?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:06 PM, wrote: > I think I can answer my own question on reflection the first one is > actually a string I think? I was confused by the square brackets around the > placeholder %s. That's correct. Your first line is putting square brackets around a comma-joined li

Re: Calculate Big Number

Thanks for reply. I wonder how quickly calculate big numbers. Can you explain me as theoretical? Because this numbers overflow size of integer and double. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 01/07/13 18:44, Nac Temha wrote: > >> How to *quickly* calculate large numbers. For exa

Re: Difference between these two lists?

In article <700d2bd9-e1df-4d38-81c7-77029a36c...@googlegroups.com>, andydtay...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Python newbie here again - this is probably a quick one. What's the > difference between the lines I've numbered 1. and 2. below, which produce the > following results: > > Results: > 1

Re: Difference between these two lists?

On 01/07/2013 08:00 PM, andydtay...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Python newbie here again - this is probably a quick one. What's the > difference between the lines I've numbered 1. and 2. below, which produce the > following results: > > Results: > 1. [ANG, BAR, BPK, CTN, QGH, QHD, KXX] > 2. ['ANG

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:32:54 +, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > An example: Earlier today I was looking at some experimental data. A > simple model of the process underlying the experiment suggests that two > variables x and y will vary in direct proportion to one another and the > data broadly reflec

Re: Calculate Big Number

On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Nac Temha wrote: > Hello, > How to *quickly* calculate large numbers. For example > >>> (10**25) * (2**50) > 11258999068426240L > Um, Karatsuba multiplication? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karatsuba_algorithm Or see what GMP folks are doing: http://

Re: Calculate Big Number

On 01/07/2013 07:44 PM, Nac Temha wrote: > Hello, > How to *quickly* calculate large numbers. For example (10**25) * (2**50) > 11258999068426240L > > Since all of the terms are const, you could just use print "11258999068426240L" Or if you hav

Re: Calculate Big Number

On 01/07/2013 08:22 PM, Nac Temha wrote: > Thanks for reply. I wonder how quickly calculate big numbers. Can you > explain me as theoretical? Because this numbers overflow size of integer > and double. Please don't top-post. It makes the context totally out of order. Python automatically promotes

Re: Calculate Big Number

In article , Nac Temha wrote: > Thanks for reply. I wonder how quickly calculate big numbers. Can you > explain me as theoretical? Because this numbers overflow size of integer > and double. Now, that's a good question. The answer is that Python implements multiple-precision arithmetic. This

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:43:46 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> Anyone can fool themselves into placing a line through a subset of non- >> linear data. Or, sadly more often, *deliberately* cherry picking fake >> clusters in order to fool oth

Re: Calculate Big Number

(forwarding the private reply to the group) On 01/07/2013 09:03 PM, Nac Temha wrote: > Thanks. I using version 2.7 .I want to understand how to handling big > number. Just want to know logic. Without going into further details but I > want to learn logic of this issue. How to keep datas in pytho

Re: Difference between these two lists?

Thanks, I think I'm clear now. I guess (map(str, stn_list)) was all about how to make a string starting with integers. I picked that up and began using it without realising it was over catering for a list already containing strings, and join(stn_list) was really all I required. Repr and Eval

Re: Difference between these two lists?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM, wrote: > Repr and Eval I think I get. Eval certainly. That's a familiar concept, and > one I hope to use tomorrow to feed a line to psycopg2. I hope not. Why do you need eval? It's extremely dangerous. Chances are there's a better way to do it; if your users are

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how to download internet files by python ?

for example ,if I want to download this file ,how to implement the download functionality by python ? http://down.51voa.com/201208/se-ed-foreign-students-friends-16aug12.mp3 as for download speed ,of course ,the fast ,the better ,so how to implement it ? It would be better to show me an examp

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Re: how to download internet files by python ?

On 07Jan2013 20:19, iMath wrote: | for example ,if I want to download this file ,how to implement the download functionality by python ? | | http://down.51voa.com/201208/se-ed-foreign-students-friends-16aug12.mp3 | | as for download speed ,of course ,the fast ,the better ,so how to implement

Re: how to download internet files by python ?

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:19 PM, iMath wrote: > for example ,if I want to download this file ,how to implement the > download functionality by python ? > > http://down.51voa.com/201208/se-ed-foreign-students-friends-16aug12.mp3 > > as for download speed ,of course ,the fast ,the better ,so how t

Re: how to download internet files by python ?

In article , Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 07Jan2013 20:19, iMath wrote: > | for example ,if I want to download this file ,how to implement the download > | functionality by python ? > | > | http://down.51voa.com/201208/se-ed-foreign-students-friends-16aug12.mp3 > | > | as for download speed

comparison between non-comparable objects

The language reference says: "...the choice whether one object [of built-in type] is considered smaller or larger than another one is made arbitrarily..." but that seems to be Python 2 behavior; Python 3 apparently raises a TypeError. Does the documentation need updating? Thanks, Kelvin -- htt

Re: comparison between non-comparable objects

On 01/08/2013 12:28 AM, Kelvin Li wrote: > The language reference says: > > "...the choice whether one object [of built-in type] is considered > smaller or larger than another one is made arbitrarily..." When quoting some online source, please give a reference link. It took me a while to find the

Re: [Offtopic] Line fitting [was Re: Numpy outlier removal]

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> given that weather patterns have been known to follow cycles at least >> that long. > > That is not a given. "Weather patterns" don't last for thirty years. > Perhaps you are talking about climate patterns? Yes, that's what I meant. In any

Re: comparison between non-comparable objects

> When quoting some online source, please give a reference link. It took > me a while to find the following page with your quote in it: > > > http://docs.python.org/3.3/reference/expressions.html > >in section "6.9 Comparisons" Sorry ab