Re: 回复： I wander which is better? JSP or Pytho n? And is there a place for JSP?

> -- 原始邮件 -- > 发件人: "Chris Rebert"; > 发送时间: 2010年6月28日(星期一) 中午1:09 > 收件人: "Roger"; > 主题: Re: I wander which is better? JSP or Python? And is there a place for JSP? > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Roger wrote: > > As I plan to study JSP, I find it extremly compl

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

In article <4c2747c1$0$4545$426a7...@news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >Python has no pretention at "elegance". That's not true at all. More precisely, I would agree with you if the emphasis is on "pretention" but not if the emphasis is on elegance; I think that Python is extremely e

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

In article , Neil Hodgson wrote: >WANG Cong: >> >> 4) Also, this will _somewhat_ violate the OOP princples, in OOP, >> this is and should be implemented by inherence. > > Most object oriented programming languages starting with Smalltalk >have allowed adding attributes (addInstVarName) to class

Re: Extension modules and common routines in Python/C API

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Re: Why Is Escaping Data Considered So Magical?

On 6/26/10 7:21 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message, Tim Chase wrote: On 06/25/2010 07:49 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: ... I see that you published my unobfuscated e-mail address on USENET for all to see. I obfuscated it for a reason, to keep the spammers away. I'm assuming this was a

回复： I wander which is bette r? JSP or Python? And is there a place for JSP?

Oh,sorry.I was just to make a comparison between Python and JSP.Will Python take the place of JSP? 我的QQ空间 the Past 24 Hours. 昨天下午，毛概被点 已经有所预感，没有郁闷的心情 反倒是... -- 原始邮件 -- 发件人: "Chris Rebert"; 发送时间: 2010年6月28日(星期一) 中午1:09 收件人: "Roger"; 主题: Re: I wander

Re: Why Python3

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:25:49 -0700, John Nagle wrote: > Unfortunately, that's not what's happening in the development > pipeline. PyPy targets Python 2.5. Unladen Swallow targets Python > 2.6.1. IronPython targets Python 2.6. C module support for CPython 3.x > is still very spotty. We have

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

Stefan Reich, 26.06.2010 17:59: This has probably been talked about on your lists, but I wasn't part of that discussion. "I don't care to read up old arguments in one of the archives" isn't a very convincing reason to start a discussion. Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: Why Is Escaping Data Considered So Magical?

On Mon, 2010-06-28, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Jorgen Grahn > wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-06-27, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> In message , Roy Smith wrote: >>> I recently fixed a bug in some production code.  The programmer was careful to use snprintf() to avo

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 28/06/2010 00:03, eric_dex...@msn.com wrote: It should be easier to have a large number of python versions on one machine... I am realy fond of 2.5 so I am probily going to start compiling them or just include the python2.5 exe if I port stuff and settle it that way.. I have Python versions

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

geremy condra writes: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, John Bokma wrote: [..] >> I've used several operating systems over many years and each OS has its >> own issues. I am currently using mostly Linux and it's far from the >> flawless OS some people seem to think it is. While it's true tha

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

Stephen Hansen writes: > On 6/27/10 7:35 PM, John Bokma wrote: >> On top of that, I don't think it's that hard to make a small program >> that one associates with .py files which checks the first line and feeds >> the .py to the correct version of Python based on the information in the >> aformen

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

Tim Golden writes: > On 28/06/2010 00:03, eric_dex...@msn.com wrote: >> It should be easier to have a large number of python versions on one >> machine... I am realy fond of 2.5 so I am probily going to start >> compiling them or just include the python2.5 exe if I port stuff and >> settle it th

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

Aahz a écrit : In article <4c2747c1$0$4545$426a7...@news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Python has no pretention at "elegance". That's not true at all. More precisely, I would agree with you if the emphasis is on "pretention" but not if the emphasis is on elegance; Python Zen, #9 (o

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 28/06/2010 09:29, John Bokma wrote: Tim Golden writes: On 28/06/2010 00:03, eric_dex...@msn.com wrote: It should be easier to have a large number of python versions on one machine... I am realy fond of 2.5 so I am probily going to start compiling them or just include the python2.5 exe if

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:23 AM, John Bokma wrote: > geremy condra writes: > >> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, John Bokma wrote: > > [..] > >>> I've used several operating systems over many years and each OS has its >>> own issues. I am currently using mostly Linux and it's far from the >>> f

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

geremy condra writes: > I'm starting to think Great, about time. Based on your previous reply I had the feeling you're a condescending prick, but now I am conviced, so *ploink*! -- John Bokma j3b Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 06/28/2010 03:21 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On 6/27/10 6:11 PM, geremy condra wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Grant >> Edwards wrote: >>> If you install a real shell on Windows, then the hash-bang line works >>> fine. :) >> >> Might as well spare yourself the trouble and install lin

Re: [python-openid] 2.2.3 python package missing

On 06/28/2010 10:26 AM, Stéphane Klein wrote: > Hi, > > I write to you, to inform I can't install python-openid 2.2.3 version. > > I've writed to the author : > > """ > I've work on a project, I use AuthKit and this tool have a dependency > with python-openid-2.2.3 > > http://openidenabled.com/

Creating exception class with custom fields in Python/C API

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Re: Why Is Escaping Data Considered So Magical?

Carl Banks wrote: Indeed, strncpy does not copy that final NUL if it's at or beyond the nth element. Probably the most mind-bogglingly stupid thing about the standard C library, which has lots of mind-boggling stupidity. I don't think it was as stupid as that back when C was designed. Every b

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Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

Carl Banks a écrit : On Jun 27, 3:49 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: WANG Cong a écrit : On 06/26/10 00:11, Neil Hodgson wrote: WANG Cong: 4) Also, this will _somewhat_ violate the OOP princples, in OOP, this is and should be implemented by inherence. Most object oriented programming la

Re: Why Is Escaping Data Considered So Magical?

Gregory Ewing writes: > I don't think it was as stupid as that back when C was > designed. Every byte of memory was precious in those days, > and if you had, say, 10 bytes allocated for a string, you > wanted to be able to use all 10 of them for useful data. No I don't think so. Traditional C st

Re: [python-openid] 2.2.3 python package missing

Le 28/06/2010 11:34, Thomas Jollans a écrit : On 06/28/2010 10:26 AM, Stéphane Klein wrote: Hi, I write to you, to inform I can't install python-openid 2.2.3 version. I've writed to the author : """ I've work on a project, I use AuthKit and this tool have a dependency with python-openid-2.2.3

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Re: compile as exe with arguments

On 06/28/10 11:18, dirknbr wrote: I want to compile as an exe using py2exe but the function should take arguments. How would I do this? Currently my exe runs (no errors) but nothing happens. I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, have you used a module like optparse and it doe

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

Alexander Kapps a écrit : (snip) While I personally don't agree with this proposal (but I understand why some people might want it), I can see a reason. When disallowing direct attribute creation, those typos that seem to catch newcommers won't happen anymore. What I mean is this: class Foo(

Re: [python-openid] 2.2.3 python package missing

On 06/28/2010 11:51 AM, Stéphane Klein wrote: > Le 28/06/2010 11:34, Thomas Jollans a écrit : >> On 06/28/2010 10:26 AM, Stéphane Klein wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I write to you, to inform I can't install python-openid 2.2.3 version. >>> >>> I've writed to the author : >>> >>> """ >>> I've work on a pr

Re: compile as exe with arguments

On Jun 28, 11:26 am, "Martin P. Hellwig" wrote: > On 06/28/10 11:18, dirknbr wrote: > > > I want to compile as an exe using py2exe but the function should take > > arguments. How would I do this? Currently my exe runs (no errors) but > > nothing happens. > > I am not sure if I understand your ques

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On Jun 28, 11:40 am, dirknbr wrote: > On Jun 28, 11:26 am, "Martin P. Hellwig" > wrote: > > > On 06/28/10 11:18, dirknbr wrote: > > > > I want to compile as an exe using py2exe but the function should take > > > arguments. How would I do this? Currently my exe runs (no errors) but > > > nothing h

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Re: I wander which is better? JSP or Python? And is there a place for JSP?

On Jun 28, 12:49 am, Roger wrote: > As I plan to study JSP, I find it extremly complicated and a part of > J2EE. > I did not attend to get the whole of J2EE. > I hope anybody can describe the future of JSP. > Is there a place for JSP? I work on a big java project to make money and I like JSP's --

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On Jun 26, 9:06 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > I didn't notice this level of angst when Python made equally significant > changes going from 1.5 to 2.0... admittedly Python 1.5 code would work > unchanged in 2.0, but the 2.x series introduced MUCH bigger additions to > Python than anything 3.

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 2010-06-28, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/28/2010 03:21 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> On 6/27/10 6:11 PM, geremy condra wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Grant >>> Edwards wrote: If you install a real shell on Windows, then the hash-bang line works fine. :) >>> >>> Might as

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On 28 June 2010 14:30, dirknbr wrote: > I get an int object is not callable TypeError when I execute this. But > I don't understand why. > (snip) >    lines=options.lines Here you are assigning the -l option to the name 'lines'. >    lines(args[0],topbottom=tb,maxi=lines) Here you are attemptin

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 6/28/10 2:20 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On 06/28/2010 03:21 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: On 6/27/10 6:11 PM, geremy condra wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: If you install a real shell on Windows, then the hash-bang line works fine. :) Might as well spare yourself

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 2010-06-28, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Edward A. Falk, 28.06.2010 16:15: >> In article, >> Thomas Jollans wrote: >> >>> There is no reason for print not being a function. Also, do you use >>> print *that* much? Really? >> >> I use it all the time. Who doesn't? What do you use instead? > > Usually

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 6/28/10 7:15 AM, Edward A. Falk wrote: In article, Thomas Jollans wrote: There is no reason for print not being a function. Also, do you use print *that* much? Really? I use it all the time. Who doesn't? What do you use instead? It depends on what my purpose is. If its debugging outp

Re: An invalid expression as parameter

On 6/28/10 5:47 AM, Li Hui wrote: > When write > >>>i for i in range(16) > I get "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" > > but When I use it like this: > >>>def f(x):\ > ... pass > >>>f(i for i in range(16)) > > all is right > I think it maybe f((i for i in range(16))) The " for in " syntax is actu

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 6/28/10 7:35 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-06-28, Stefan Behnel wrote: Edward A. Falk, 28.06.2010 16:15: In article, Thomas Jollans wrote: There is no reason for print not being a function. Also, do you use print *that* much? Really? I use it all the time. Who doesn't? What do you

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Dave Pawson wrote: > I've a fairly long bash script and I'm wondering > how easy it would be to port to Python. > > Main queries are: > Ease of calling out to bash to use something like imageMagick or Java? Easiest way is os.system, most flexible way is subprocess

Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:48:51 +0100 Dave Pawson wrote: > I've a fairly long bash script and I'm wondering > how easy it would be to port to Python. That's too big a question without seeing more of what your script does. I will try to suggest some direction though. First, if you have a complicate

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

In article <4c285e7c$0$17371$426a7...@news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >Aahz a écrit : >> In article <4c2747c1$0$4545$426a7...@news.free.fr>, >> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >>> >>> Python has no pretention at "elegance". >> >> That's not true at all. More precisely, I would agree wit

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

On 6/28/10 8:27 AM, Aahz wrote: In article<4c285e7c$0$17371$426a7...@news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Aahz a écrit : In article<4c2747c1$0$4545$426a7...@news.free.fr>, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Python has no pretention at "elegance". That's not true at all. More precisely, I wo

Re: optparse TypeError

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

Thanks for the replies (and Benjamin). Not met with the subprocess idea. On 28 June 2010 16:29, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: >> Main queries are: >> Ease of calling out to bash to use something like imageMagick or Java? > > You don't need to call bash to call an external program.  Check out the > sub

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

On 06/28/2010 04:36 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On 6/28/10 2:20 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote: >> On 06/28/2010 03:21 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: >>> On 6/27/10 6:11 PM, geremy condra wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > If you install a real shell on Windows, the

Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

On 06/28/2010 06:08 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > Thanks for the replies (and Benjamin). > Not met with the subprocess idea. > > On 28 June 2010 16:29, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > >>> Main queries are: >>> Ease of calling out to bash to use something like imageMagick or Java? >> >> You don't need to ca

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Re: N00b question: matching stuff with variables.

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Re: N00b question: matching stuff with variables.

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

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Re: Why Python3

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

On 28 June 2010 18:39, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 06/28/2010 05:48 AM, Dave Pawson wrote: >> Main queries are: Ease of calling out to bash to use something like >> imageMagick or Java? Ease of grabbing return parameters? E.g. convert >> can return both height and width of an image. Can this be ret

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Re: dynamically modify help text

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

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On 6/28/2010 9:10 AM Victor Subervi said... Any other suggestions? http://www.databaseanswers.org/tutorial4_db_schema/index.htm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: dynamically modify help text

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Brian Blais wrote: >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 22:37 , Red Forks wrote: >>> Read you doc file and set the __doc__ attr of the object you want to >>> change. >>> >>> On Monday, June 28, 2010, Brian Blais wrote: >

Re: Why Python3

On Jun 28, 12:58 pm, "OKB (not okblacke)" wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > None of PyPy, Unladen Swallow or IronPython are dependencies for > > Python 3.x to be "ready for prime time". Neither is C module > > support. > >         I think this is being overoptimistic.  For me, "ready for prime >

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Alexander Kapps a écrit : (snip) While I personally don't agree with this proposal (but I understand why some people might want it), I can see a reason. When disallowing direct attribute creation, those typos that seem to catch newcommers won't happen anymore. What

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

Alexander Kapps wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Alexander Kapps a écrit : (snip) While I personally don't agree with this proposal (but I understand why some people might want it), I can see a reason. When disallowing direct attribute creation, those typos that seem to catch newcommers won

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

On 6/28/10 12:09 PM, Alexander Kapps wrote: This seems to work quite well: class TypoProtection(object): def __init__(self): self.foo = 42 self.bar = 24 def _setattr(self, name, value): if name in self.__dict__: self.__dict__[name] = value else: raise AttributeError, "%s has no '%s' attribute"

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

On 06/25/2010 09:39 PM, WANG Cong wrote: > Thanks, I have to admit that I know nothing about Smalltalk. If you know nothing about Smalltalk then you really aren't in a position to talk about what is and is not OOP. Smalltalk is one of the original OOP languages and purists define OOP as the model

C++/Python function call

Hello every one: I have this python function defined as: def set_time_at_next_pps(self, *args, **kwargs): """set_time_at_next_pps(self, usrp2::time_spec_t time_spec) -> bool""" it was generated to do the same function as the c++: set_time_at_next_pps(usrp2::time_spec_t(0, 0)) I

Re: Python dynamic attribute creation

On 06/27/2010 11:58 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > To say you can't really know "much about" OOP without knowing "much > about" Smalltalk seems basically, well, wrong. True. But you can't really criticize a language's implementation of OOP without a good understanding of the "pure" OO language. Fo

Re: refactoring a group of import statements

On Jun 27, 10:20 pm, GrayShark wrote: > Question: If you can't answer the question, why are you talking? Q: If you can't take advice without complaining, then why are you asking? > I'm American Indian. That's what I was taught. We don't talk that much. > But you get an answer when we do talk. Ma

Re: optparse TypeError

Michele Simionato writes: > optparse is so old-fashioned. Use plac! The OP should be made aware that: * plac is a third-party library with (TTBOMK) no prospect of inclusion in the standard library * optparse is in the standard library and has been for many versions * argparse is a third-par

Re: C++/Python function call

On Monday 28 June 2010 12:46:13 Zohair M. Abu Shaban wrote: > Hello every one: > > > I have this python function defined as: > > def set_time_at_next_pps(self, *args, **kwargs): > > """set_time_at_next_pps(self, usrp2::time_spec_t time_spec) > -> bool""" > > > > it was generated to do t

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > >Maybe it's just me, but I find both debugging and small scripts to be >very useful. Ditto. I've also written a number of large scripts, and I *always* use print in them. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Re: refactoring a group of import statements

On 6/28/10 12:54 PM, rantingrick wrote: On Jun 27, 10:20 pm, GrayShark wrote: Question: If you can't answer the question, why are you talking? Q: If you can't take advice without complaining, then why are you asking? I'm American Indian. That's what I was taught. We don't talk that much. Bu

Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?

Paul Rubin wrote in news:7xpqzbj8st@ruckus.brouhaha.com: > Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script? > That's interesting but I'm having a hard time seeing how it would work. > I think environment variables didn't exist in early versions of Unix, > and argc/argv were p

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

In article , Stephen Hansen wrote: > >No one said otherwise, or that print was useless and never used in such >contexts. I was responding to the question "Also, do you use print *that* much? Really?" The implication being that in the majority of useful python programs, you don't really need to

Re: I strongly dislike Python 3

In article , Stephen Hansen wrote: > >Any other use, I basically operate on a file object. I use file objects all the time. I use print with them. -- -Ed Falk, f...@despams.r.us.com http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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