Re: why did MIT drop scheme for python in intro to computing?

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
On Oct 8, 1:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Harvey) wrote: > "Kjetil S. Matheussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >I don't think your speculations makes very much sence. > > Amen. > > And, in any case, there's no need to speculate. MIT has published, on their > web site, pages and pages of ratio

Re: Memory leak/gc.get_objects()/Improved gc in version 2.5

2007-10-08 Thread Terry Reedy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Questions like this about memory consumption should start with the information printed by the interactive interpreter on startup and additional info about whether the binary is from stock CPython or has 3rd party modules compiled in.

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-10-08 Thread Wade Ward
"Damien Kick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This thread of conversation also popped into my head when I was waiting in > line at the Starbucks in the building in which I work. I've been ordering > a lot of Americanos lately. I always ask for a small American

Re: why did MIT drop scheme for python in intro to computing?

2007-10-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-10-09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does scheme have a gui library? Yes. It had a far, far better Tk binding than Python. http://kaolin.unice.fr/STk/ I've used both for real-world applications, and STk was _miles_ ahead of tkinter. It was a real, native binding to

Re: why did MIT drop scheme for python in intro to computing?

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
On Oct 8, 9:04 pm, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-10-09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does scheme have a gui library? > > Yes. It had a far, far better Tk binding than Python. > > http://kaolin.unice.fr/STk/ > > I've used both for real-world applications,

Re: pytz has so many timezones!

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 8, 8:27?pm, "Nicholas Bastin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What do you mean by "the military" and why do you think they're > > > authoritative on the topic of timezones? > > > Because they publish maps? > > I'm not sure what th

Query

2007-10-08 Thread ritu sharma
Hi , I am using linked server to fetch data from Oracle database. Now ,I have to use FPN_STATUS='A' in the query. Kindly tell me if there is an escape sequence for ' . FROM OPENQUERY(FPDWH, 'SELECT WGFP_OWN.GRS_FILE_PLAN_VERSION.FVN_STATUS FPN_STAT_CODE, WGFP_OWN.GRS_FILE_PLAN_STATU

The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I was all along unheard of. Its not even in paul graham's book where i learnt part of Lisp. Its in Marc Feeley's video. Can anyone explain: (1) its origin (2) its syntax and semantics in emacs lisp, common lisp, scheme (3) Is it p

how to get rgbdata

2007-10-08 Thread sajanjoseph
Hi i am a newbie to python and PIL. can anyone tell me how to get rgbdata from a jpeg image using PIL as a double[] . is there an equiv method to java's BufferedImage.getRGB(0,0,width,height,rgbdata,0,width) ? if anyone can advise pls do sj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

property question

2007-10-08 Thread Manu Hack
hi all, If I have a class A with A.x, A.y, A.z. A.y and A.z are property and in order to compute the value of them, A.y depends on A.x while A.z depends on A.y and A.x. If I call A.y, and A.z, the value A.y would be computed twice. Is there a smart way to avoid that as to A.y will be recomputed

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2007-10-08 Thread Heikki Toivonen
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Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread Barb Knox
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I > was all along unheard of. Don't be depressed about that. There are countless concepts out there they you haven't yet heard of. > Its not even in paul graham's book

Re: pytz has so many timezones!

2007-10-08 Thread Sanjay
> It's not clear at all from the OPs post exactly what functionality he > is trying to derive from the timezone. Since timezones (obviously) > contain more information than just the GMT offset (otherwise we > wouldn't even have them), he may very well want to use the timezone > given by the user to

Re: property question

2007-10-08 Thread George Sakkis
On Oct 9, 1:20 am, "Manu Hack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi all, > > If I have a class A with A.x, A.y, A.z. A.y and A.z are property and > in order to compute the value of them, A.y depends on A.x while A.z > depends on A.y and A.x. If I call A.y, and A.z, the value A.y would > be computed tw

Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread Bakul Shah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I > was all along unheard of. The concept is 37 years old. Wadsworth in his "Continuation Revisited" paper says he & Strachey were struggling with extending the technique of denotational semantics to d

Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread .
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:15:49 +, gnuist006 wrote: > Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I > was all along unheard of. Its not even in paul graham's book where i > learnt part of Lisp. Its in Marc Feeley's video. > > Can anyone explain: > > (1) its origin One of

Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
On Oct 8, 10:59 pm, Barb Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lambda calculus. Instead of function A returning to its caller, the > caller provides an additional argument (the "continuation") which is a > function B to be called by A with A's result(s). In pure "continuation > style" coding, noth

Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
On Oct 8, 11:07 pm, Bakul Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I > > was all along unheard of. > > The concept is 37 years old. Wadsworth in his "Continuation > Revisited" paper says he & Strachey were

Re: The fundamental concept of continuations

2007-10-08 Thread gnuist006
On Oct 8, 11:09 pm, "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:15:49 +, gnuist006 wrote: > > Again I am depressed to encounter a fundamentally new concept that I > > was all along unheard of. Its not even in paul graham's book where i > > learnt part of Lisp. Its in Marc Feeley's v

Re: finding out the call (and not only the caller)

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 7, 2:47 pm, "Francesco Guerrieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Today I've been thinking a bit about the "python internals". Inspired > by this recipe:http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/66062 > I found out a little problem which haven't been able to solve. > In sh

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