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Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

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Re: Minimal Linux system to run Python

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Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

On Apr 14, 4:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This also is > similar to the C++ "using" keyword which exposes the members of a > namespace to access without specifying the namespace scope for each > reference. For example after giving "using namespace std;" I can > change all references to "std::c

Re: Python editor/IDE on Linux?

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Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

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Re: reading from sys.stdin

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Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 14, 6:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is like the previous one. Please check for sanity and approve for > posting at python-dev. > > I would like to have something like "option base" in Visual Basic. > IIRC it used to allow me to choose whether 0 or 1 should be used as > the base of m

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

On Apr 14, 12:57 pm, "7stud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 14, 4:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > This also is > > similar to the C++ "using" keyword which exposes the members of a > > namespace to access without specifying the namespace scope for each > > reference. For example after gi

Re: Python Feature Request: (?) Group all file-directory-related stdlib functions in one place

On Apr 14, 6:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please check for sanity and approve for posting at python-dev. > > Currently file-directory-related functionality in the Python standard > library is scattered among various modules such as shutil, os, > dircache etc. So I request that the functions be

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 14, 11:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is like the previous one. Please check for sanity and approve for > posting at python-dev. > > I would like to have something like "option base" in Visual Basic. > IIRC it used to allow me to choose whether 0 or 1 should be used as > the base of

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Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

On 2007-04-13, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antoon Pardon wrote: >> On 2007-04-13, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Antoon Pardon wrote: On 2007-04-12, Carsten Haese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 14:10 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> People a

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

"Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having more than one index start point would be a maintenance > nightmare best avoided. Quite right. > (It can be done in Perl). When was the last time you used Perl? It was allowed in Perl 4 and earlier, because many Perl users were moving from Awk, which

That might be the case for more complex objects...

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 14 Apr 2007 06:35:34 -0700, "jamadagni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed > the following in comp.lang.python: > In Python, the "variable" NAME does NOT define storage; unlike most > other classical languages where the "variable name" is a storage > address, and the

Re: Minimal Linux system to run Python

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Re: That might be the case for more complex objects...

Bart Willems wrote: > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2007 06:35:34 -0700, "jamadagni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed >> the following in comp.lang.python: >> In Python, the "variable" NAME does NOT define storage; unlike most >> other classical languages where the "variable name" is a sto

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

BJörn Lindqvist schrieb: > On 4/14/07, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2007 07:24:32 -0700, jamadagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > You already can emulate the using statement like this: >> > >> > You can emulate only assignments like this. How would you emulate >> > fun

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 14, 8:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is like the previous one. Please check for sanity and approve for > posting at python-dev. > > I would like to have something like "option base" in Visual Basic. > IIRC it used to allow me to choose whether 0 or 1 should be used as > the base of m

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 14, 8:55 pm, Sherm Pendley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Having more than one index start point would be a maintenance > > nightmare best avoided. > > Quite right. > > > (It can be done in Perl). > > When was the last time you used Perl? It was allowed

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

jamadagni wrote: > Bjoern Schliessmann wrote: >> In more complex modules, when you are >> looking for, e. g., self.myVar and anotherObject.myVar, >> this "using" statement decreases readability and maintainability >> (in full text searching). IMHO. > > Why? Just search for self and you turn up us

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

jamadagni wrote: > OK fine. It is clear that this feature must be implemented if at > all only on a per-module basis. So can we have votes for > per-module implementation of this feature? I don't think it's worth the hassle. BTW, what's, IYHO, the distinct advantage of starting array indices at 1

Re: That might be the case for more complex objects...

Bart Willems wrote: > I can try this in interactive mode: > >>> a = 5 > >>> b = a > >>> a += 1 > >>> print b > 5 > > So, if /a/ and /b/ where pointing to the *same* "5" in memory, They do: >>> a = 5 >>> b = a >>> a is b True >>> a += 1 >>> a is b False ... but not after a is rebound to a n

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Re: "HTTP error -1" from urllib2

John J. Lee wrote: > John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can you create an example (preferably small) that fails? Feel free to > email it to me if it includes something you don't want to post. It's not a Python problem, as it turns out. It's a problem in, surprisingly, Coyote Point loa

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Re: Making a tree out of a 2 column list

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Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

"Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think we should add it to Python > because it would make porting VB code easier. Great Cthulhu no! I chimed in because your first comment regarding Perl implied that it's commonplace for Perl programmers to fiddle with the index base. It can be done,

Useful decorator

In the course of writing a bunch of generator-oriented code I kept wanting to temporarily truncate the output of generators for debugging, i.e. I might have a function like def generate_bazillion_items(): for line in bazillion_line_file: yield itemify(line) where I wanted to

Re: treating str as unicode in legacy code?

On Apr 13, 5:57 am, "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm left with some legacy code using plain oldstr, and I need to make > sure it works withunicodeinput/output. I have a simple plan to do > this: > > - Run the code with "python -U" so all the string literals > becomeunicodelitrals. Requiring

Re: Useful decorator

Paul Rubin wrote: > In the course of writing a bunch of generator-oriented code I kept > wanting to temporarily truncate the output of generators for debugging, > i.e. I might have a function like > > def generate_bazillion_items(): >for line in bazillion_line_file: > yield i

Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

7stud wrote: > On Apr 14, 12:37 pm, "Andre P.S Duarte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>I started reading the beginning Python book. It is intended for people >>who are starting out in the Python world. But it is really >>complicated, because he tries to explain, then after a bad explanation >>he

Re: descriptor object for an attribute?

On Apr 11, 3:07 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Mahurin a écrit : > > > Is there a standard way to get a descriptor object for an arbitrary > > object attribute - independent of whether it uses the descriptor/ > > property protocol or not. I want some kind of handle/refer

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like"with" in Visual Basic

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Re: Lists and Tuples and Much More

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > > "7stud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>.. But using a tuple as a >>key in a dictionary is probably something you will never do. > > > Yikes! I do this all the time... > > Think of an address in any one town. > It has a Street, and a number > (could

Re: That might be the case for more complex objects...

On Saturday 14 April 2007, James Stroud wrote: > I think that after a += 1, a memory location with a 6 is created and now > a points to that because += has assignment buried in it. Bingo. a+=1 will (basically) translate to either "a=a.__iadd__(1)" or "a=a.__add__(1)" depending on whether __ia

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I would like to have something like "option base" in Visual Basic. | IIRC it used to allow me to choose whether 0 or 1 should be used as | the base of member indices of arrays. In Python, the same can be used | with strings, lists, tup

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Re: Useful decorator

On Apr 14, 5:03 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > In the course of writing a bunch of generator-oriented code I kept > wanting to temporarily truncate the output of generators for debugging, > i.e. I might have a function like > > def generate_bazillion_items(): >for li

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Re: optparse -- anyway to find if the user entered an option?

Karthik Gurusamy wrote: > Hi, > > I see that I can provide a default value for an option. But I couldn't > find out any way if the user really entered the option or the option > took that value because of default. A simple check for value with > default may not always work as the user might have m

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:55:03 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Names are references to the RHS object itself. > > a = 5 > > means that somewhere in memory is an integer object with the value "5"; > the name "a" is now "pasted onto" that integer object. That's not correct, as it implies t

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While trying to write a recursive function involving lists, I came across some (to me) odd behavior which I don't quite understand. Here's a trivial function showing the problem. >>> def f(l, r = []): for itm in l: r.append(itm) print r >>> a = [1,2,3]

Re: That might be the case for more complex objects...

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:03:03 -0400, Bart Willems wrote: > I can try this in interactive mode: > >>> a = 5 > >>> b = a > >>> a += 1 > >>> print b > 5 > > So, if /a/ and /b/ where pointing to the *same* "5" in memory, then I > would expect b to be increased, just as a. This is what you are i

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > __future__ is used to access upcoming features, and changing the base > offset is not [and never will be] slated for future development. zero > has been used as the base offset in all real languages since the dawn > of time, and isn't something that can

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

Sherm Pendley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't think we should add it to Python > > because it would make porting VB code easier. > > Great Cthulhu no! > > I chimed in because your first comment regarding Perl implied that it's > commonplace for Per

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Kevin Walzer wrote: > Hello, > > I am seeking to update this wiki page, which lists Mac OS X applications > using Python in a significant way: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython/MacSoftwareUsingPython > I have updated the page. Thanks to all for their suggestions. -- Kevin Walzer Co

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

On 4/14/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While trying to write a recursive function involving lists, I came > across some (to me) odd behavior which I don't quite understand. Here's > a trivial function showing the problem. from http://docs.python.org/ref/function.html : Default parameter va

Re: Getting started with python

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Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

Thanks, Troy. I never cease to be amazed at what can be discovered by reading the manual! Mike Troy Melhase wrote: > On 4/14/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> While trying to write a recursive function involving lists, I came >> across some (to me) odd behavior which I don't quite understa

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Re: Useful decorator

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:03:00 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: > Then to chop bazillion_items to 20 items, I just write: > > @truncate(20) > def generate_bazillion_items(): >for line in bazillion_line_file: > yield itemify(line) > > When I want to run the whole file, I comment o

Re: optparse -- anyway to find if the user entered an option?

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:49:22 -0700, Karthik Gurusamy wrote: > I'm wondering if there is a cleaner approach -- something like > parser.opt_seen("-i") What do dir(parser) and help(parser) say? -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:33:11 -0800, Troy Melhase wrote: > On 4/14/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> While trying to write a recursive function involving lists, I came >> across some (to me) odd behavior which I don't quite understand. Here's >> a trivial function showing the problem. > > fro

Re: Useful decorator

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > if __debug__: >generate_bazillion_items = truncate(20)(generate_bazillion_items) > > Now you don't have to comment/uncomment dozens of lines all over your > application, but only set a single global. The cool thing about organizing the program as

Re: Python Feature Request: Explicit variable declarations

Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > In Python, the "variable" NAME does NOT define storage; unlike most > other classical languages where the "variable name" is a storage > address, and the value of the RHS is COPIED to that address. Python does > not do such copying. Names

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Why is "r" not being reset to the empty list on subsequent calls? It > seems like it should be reinitialized when not explicitly provided. Alex -- http://mail.python

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 15, 2:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Sherm Pendley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Paddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I don't think we should add it to Python > > > because it would make porting VB code easier. > > > Great Cthulhu no! > > > I chimed in because your

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

On Apr 15, 2:01 am, Bjoern Schliessmann wrote: > > self.myVar -- something lost, something gained, IMHO. > > So, the gain is the loss of something different? If you say so. My mistake - I should have said "no pain, no gain". > IMHO, the ability to find something quickly weighs much stronger > t

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

On Apr 15, 3:58 am, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:33:11 -0800, Troy Melhase wrote: > > On 4/14/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> While trying to write a recursive function involving lists, I came > >> across some (to me) odd behavior which I don't quite

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

> This comes up so often that I wonder whether Python should issue a warning > when it sees [] or {} as a default argument. > > > What do people think? A misuse or good use of warnings? I think Python should reevaluate the default values. -- mvh Björn -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FORTRAN family had started as 1-based (F95, and Ada, now allow > for each array to have its own "base" => x : array (-10..10) of float). > Pascal, I forget... Pascal allows arbitrary array bases. It's where Ada got t

Re: Getting started with python

On Apr 15, 1:46 am, "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, after reading some of the book Programming Python it seems that > python is something I would like to delve deeper into. The only thing > is, I have no idea what I should try and write. So I was hoping that > someone here could help poi

Re: Python Feature Request: Explicit variable declarations

On Apr 14, 3:56 pm, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for prior discussion. The request is sane, but is also incomplete: there > is no syntax suggested for the actual declarations of local variables, > and no discussion whether this is meant to apply to local variables > only, or also

Re: optparse -- anyway to find if the user entered an option?

On Apr 14, 7:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:49:22 -0700, Karthik Gurusamy wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is a cleaner approach -- something like > > parser.opt_seen("-i") > > What do dir(parser) and help(parser) say? They don't seem to convey existenc

Re: Python Feature Request: Add the "using" keyword which works like "with" in Visual Basic

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:42:52 -0700, samjnaa wrote: > Please check for sanity and approve for posting at python-dev. > > In Visual Basic there is the keyword "with" which allows an object- > name to be declared as governing the following statements. For > example: > > with quitCommandButton > .e

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:29:01 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: >> This comes up so often that I wonder whether Python should issue a warning >> when it sees [] or {} as a default argument. >> >> >> What do people think? A misuse or good use of warnings? > > I think Python should reevaluate the defaul

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:34:46 -0700, Dan Bishop wrote: > On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The FORTRAN family had started as 1-based (F95, and Ada, now allow >> for each array to have its own "base" => x : array (-10..10) of float). >> Pascal, I forget.

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On Apr 14, 10:05 pm, Anton Vredegoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > That doesn't mean that I haven't met a lot of enthusiastic and helpful > zope developers and programmers, it's just that they don't understand or > don't want to understand that money can be a show stopper for people > wanting to

Re: Python Feature Request: Explicit variable declarations

> "Martin" == Martin v Löwis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: >> Hello. Please tell me whether this feature request is sane (and not >> done before) for python so it can be posted to the python-dev mailing >> list. I should say first that I am not a professional program

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:34:46 -0700, Dan Bishop wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> The FORTRAN family had started as 1-based (F95, and Ada, now allow > >> for each array to have its own "base

Re: function with list argument defaulting to [] - what's going on here???

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:29:01 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > > >> This comes up so often that I wonder whether Python should issue a warning > >> when it sees [] or {} as a default argument. > >> > >> > >> What do people think? A misuse or good use of

Re: Lists and Tuples and Much More

7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It sure looks like t changed, and therefore t is NOT immutable--and > the whole "tuples are immutable" mantra is a lie. However, the list """ So, "the statue that points to Hotel Belfiore" h

Re: Making a tree out of a 2 column list

Sebastian Bassi wrote: > On 14 Apr 2007 09:32:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > def tree_path(key,tree,indent): > > print '\t'*indent,key > > if tree.has_key(key): > > for m in tree[key]: > > tree_path(m,tree,indent+1) > > return > > Tha

proposed PEP: iterator splicing

The boilerplate def some_gen(): ... for x in some_other_gen(): yield x ... is so common (including the case where some_other_gen is the same as some_gen, i.e. it's a recursive call) that I find myself wanting a more direct way to express it: def some_g

Re: Method calls and stack consumption

Martin Manns wrote: > Calling methods of other object instances seems quite expensive on the > stack (see example below). Is there a better way of traversing through > methods of instances that are connected in a cyclic graph? (The real > program's graph contains multiple successors in lists.) >

Re: Reading the first line of a file (in a zipfile)

En Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:59:30 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > That works fine if I am using the interpreter, but I get 'cannot open > file' when i try to read from an archive.. > Does that make sense? Sorry, this is my 2nd python script. Try a small, failing example and post the code and th

combination function in python

how to use the combination function in python ? For example 9 choose 2 (written as 9C2) = 9!/7!*2!=36 Please help, I couldnt find the function through help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: combination function in python

DanielJohnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how to use the combination function in python ? > > For example 9 choose 2 (written as 9C2) = 9!/7!*2!=36 > > Please help, I couldnt find the function through help. If you download and install gmpy, it's easy: >>> import gmpy >>> gmpy.comb(9,2) mpz(36

Re: Append data to a list within a dict

Tina I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > He he... at the age of 40 I'm well beyond school work ;) Why would that be? My wife's over 40, yet she's a student (currently at Stanford -- they were overjoyed to admit her, with lot of life experience as well as previous studies, apparently). She's no

Re: proposed PEP: iterator splicing

Paul Rubin wrote: > Less clutter, and avoids yet another temp variable > polluting the namespace. Are we in danger of running out of temp variables? John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Feature Request: Allow changing base of member indices to 1

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:02:47 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:34:46 -0700, Dan Bishop wrote: >> >> > On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> The FORTRAN family had started as 1-based

Re: Reading the first line of a file (in a zipfile)

On Apr 11, 1:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi folks, > > The first line in the file I am examining will be a number followed by > more whitespace. Looks like I cannot split by whitespace? > but I get 'cannot open > file' when i try to read from an archive.. ...and that led you to conclude tha

Re: tuples, index method, Python's design

On Apr 14, 11:59 am, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Rhamphoryncus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nope, it's pretty fundamental to working with text, unicode only being > > an extreme example: there's a wide number of ways to break down a > > chunk of text, making the odds of "e"

Re: proposed PEP: iterator splicing

On 14 Apr 2007 22:17:08 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote > The boilerplate > > def some_gen(): >... >for x in some_other_gen(): >yield x >... > > is so common (including the case where some_other_gen is the same as > some_gen, i.e. it's a recursive call) that I find

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