Re: Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-15 Thread Bob Kline via Python-list
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 1:02 PM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > I am active in the `Zope` community (a web application server > based on Python). This community has a security mailing list > for security related reports > and issues public CVE (= "Commun Vulnerabilities and Exposure

Re: Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-15 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
Bob Kline wrote at 2023-7-14 13:35 -0400: >Can someone point me to the official catalog of security vulnerabilities in >Python (by which I mean cpython and the standard libraries)? I found >https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10210/product_id-18230/Python-Python.html

Re: Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Kline via Python-list
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 3:02 PM Barry wrote: > Where do you get your python from? Directly from python.org. > You may find that the organisation that packages python that you use has such > a list. That's my hope. Just haven't found it yet. :-} -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-14 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 14 Jul 2023, at 19:14, Bob Kline via Python-list > wrote: > > Can someone point me to the official catalog of security vulnerabilities in > Python (by which I mean cpython and the standard libraries)? I found > https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_i

Re: Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Kline via Python-list
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:35 PM Bob Kline wrote: > Can someone point me to the official catalog of security vulnerabilities > in Python I did try entering "python security vulnerabilities" in the search box of the python.org web site, but what I got back was "No resu

Canonical list of Python security vulnerabilities

2023-07-14 Thread Bob Kline via Python-list
Can someone point me to the official catalog of security vulnerabilities in Python (by which I mean cpython and the standard libraries)? I found https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10210/product_id-18230/Python-Python.html but that isn't maintained by python.org. I also

[RELEASE] Python versions 3.10.7, 3.9.14, 3.8.14, 3.7.14 now available with security content

2022-09-07 Thread Łukasz Langa
We have some security content, and plenty of regular bug fixes for 3.10. Let’s dive right in. <https://discuss.python.org/#cve-2020-10735httpscvemitreorgcgi-bincvenamecginamecve-2020-10735-1>CVE-2020-10735 <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2020-10735> Converting

[RELEASE] Python 3.10.3, 3.9.11, 3.8.13, and 3.7.13 are now available with security content

2022-03-16 Thread Łukasz Langa
Welcome again to the exciting world of releasing new Python versions! Last time around I was complaining about cursed releases <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-10-2-3-9-10-and-3-11-0a4-are-now-available/13146>. This time around I could complain about security content galore and how

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.12 and 3.6.15 security updates now available

2021-09-04 Thread Ned Deily
Python 3.7.12 and 3.6.15, the lastest security fix rollups for Python 3.7 and Python 3.6, are now available. You can find the release files, links to the changelogs, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3712/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release

[RELEASE] Python 3.7.10 and 3.6.13 security updates now available

2021-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
Python 3.7.10 and 3.6.13, the lastest security fix rollups for Python 3.7 and Python 3.6, are now available. You can find the release files, links to the changelogs, and more information here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3710/ https://www.python.org/downloads/release

[RELEASE] Python 3.8.5 released as a security hotfix. 3.9.0b5, the last beta before 3.9.0, also available

2020-07-20 Thread Łukasz Langa
This is a combined release of Python 3.8.5 and 3.9.0b5. Both are significant but for different reasons. Let’s dig in! Security content in 3.8.5 We decided to release 3.8.5 ahead of schedule due to a number of security-related fixes. All details can be found in the change log <ht

[ANN][SECURITY] Local Privilege Escalation in all Windows software frozen by PyInstaller in "onefile" mode

2020-01-09 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Credits This vulnerability was discovered and reported by Farid AYOUJIL (@faridtsl), David HA, Florent LE NIGER and Yann GASCUEL (@lnv42) from Alter Solutions (@AlterSolutions) and fixed in collaboration with Hartmut Goebel (@htgoebel, maintainer of PyInstaller). Funding Development

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-27 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2019-11-28 10:56:58 +1300, Greg Ewing wrote: > On 27/11/19 10:54 am, Mr. Gentooer wrote: > > why would I be a troll? I have never used usenet. I am honestly and > > genuinely curious. > > The reason people are asking is that wanting a manual on how to > search the Web is a bit like wanting a ma

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-27 Thread Greg Ewing
On 27/11/19 10:54 am, Mr. Gentooer wrote: why would I be a troll? I have never used usenet. I am honestly and genuinely curious. The reason people are asking is that wanting a manual on how to search the Web is a bit like wanting a manual on how to walk. Most people pick it up by watching othe

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Michael Torrie
>> what is the best "manual" for the specific security topic? >> >> Given the nature of what you are asking -- have you considered > that >> much of it might be considered proprietary information by any firm(s) >> that already do such stuff. >>

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Michael Torrie
o get some sort of result. (Skill does help you get >> there more efficiently, though.) >> >> ChrisA > > what skills do i need? any manual or reference guide that teach how to > search the web? If you have to ask that question then you are definitely not ready for w

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Mr. Gentooer
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 03:29:48PM -0500, Joel Goldstick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:23 PM Mr. Gentooer wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:25:12 + (UTC), Pycode > > > > declaimed the following: > > > > > > > > comp.lang.python gmane.comp.python.general > > > > how do you access

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread mm0fmf
On 26/11/2019 21:35, Rob Gaddi wrote: On 11/26/19 12:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2019-11-26, Joel Goldstick wrote: I'm thinking this is a troll or a turing machine experiment? Yea, many of the posts remind me of ELIZA. How do you feel about many of the posts remind you of ELIZA? +1

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Rob Gaddi
On 11/26/19 12:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2019-11-26, Joel Goldstick wrote: I'm thinking this is a troll or a turing machine experiment? Yea, many of the posts remind me of ELIZA. How do you feel about many of the posts remind you of ELIZA? -- Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology -- www.hi

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-11-26, Joel Goldstick wrote: > I'm thinking this is a troll or a turing machine experiment? Yea, many of the posts remind me of ELIZA. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hmmm ... A hash-singer at and a cross-eyed g

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:23 PM Mr. Gentooer wrote: > > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:25:12 + (UTC), Pycode > > > declaimed the following: > > > > > > comp.lang.python gmane.comp.python.general > > how do you access these in a reasonable way? > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Mr. Gentooer
> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:25:12 + (UTC), Pycode > > declaimed the following: > > > > comp.lang.python gmane.comp.python.general how do you access these in a reasonable way? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Pycode
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:35:10 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:26 AM Pycode wrote: >> asking offtopic question, >> can you give a few guides that teach how to search the web? >> >> > At this point, I'm starting to be quite confused as to whether this is a > genuine question

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:26 AM Pycode wrote: > asking offtopic question, > can you give a few guides that teach how to search the web? > At this point, I'm starting to be quite confused as to whether this is a genuine question or a parody. I'd love to respond to it as a parody, meeting you joke

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Pycode
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:20:11 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 02:51:36 + (UTC), Pycode > declaimed the following: > >>which keywords should i use for web-search? do you have a list? >>what is the best "manual" for the specific security top

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-26 Thread Pycode
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:01:54 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:56 PM Pycode wrote: >> >> which keywords should i use for web-search? do you have a list? >> what is the best "manual" for the specific security topic? > > https:

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:56 PM Pycode wrote: > > which keywords should i use for web-search? do you have a list? > what is the best "manual" for the specific security topic? https://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+search+the+web ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread Pycode
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:32:50 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:25:12 + (UTC), Pycode > declaimed the following: > > >>you are not being helpful or answer the question.. >>can someone answer? maybe should i ask on the mailing list? > > Why? > > comp.lang.python

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread Pycode
nternet. > >>>> can anyone post links for python resources that contain tools and >>>> scripts related with security and pentesting? > > They're the sorts of tools that, if the community deems you a > non-threatening-actor, they might point you in the right dire

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread DL Neil via Python-list
On 26/11/19 11:48 AM, Tim Chase wrote: On 2019-11-25 21:25, Pycode wrote: On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 10:41:29 +1300, DL Neil wrote: Are such email addresses 'open' and honest? you are not being helpful or answer the question.. What DL Neil seems to be getting at is that there's been an uptick in q

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread Tim Chase
es Neither factor inspires much confidence. 2) you (and others) are asking to be spoonfed example code that could cause problems on the internet. >>> can anyone post links for python resources that contain tools and >>> scripts related with security and pentesting? Th

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-25 Thread Pycode
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 10:41:29 +1300, DL Neil wrote: > Curiosity: why have recent similar enquiries also come from > non-resolving domain names? > > > Recently we've seen security-related enquiries (on more than one Python > Discussion List) which don't explicitly c

Re: Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-23 Thread DL Neil via Python-list
Curiosity: why have recent similar enquiries also come from non-resolving domain names? Recently we've seen security-related enquiries (on more than one Python Discussion List) which don't explicitly claim to come from 'white hat hackers' but which do have the potenti

Python Resources related with web security

2019-11-23 Thread Pycode
Hello, can anyone post links for python resources that contain tools and scripts related with security and pentesting? not looking for the obvious such as OWASP,etc can anyone post a list of interesting links? you can also include blogs and forums.. Thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman

[RELEASE] Python 3.6.9 security-fix release is now available

2019-07-02 Thread Ned Deily
Python 3.6.9 is now available. 3.6.9 is the first security-only-fix release of Python 3.6. Python 3.6 has now entered the security fix phase of its life cycle. Only security-related issues are accepted and addressed during this phase. We plan to provide security fixes for Python 3.6 as needed

Re: Potential Security Bug

2019-03-20 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:14 AM Laish, Amit (GE Digital) wrote: > > Hello, > I’m Amit Laish, a security researcher from GE Digital. > During one of our assessments we discovered something that we consider a bug with security implications which can cause a denial of service by disk exh

Potential Security Bug

2019-03-20 Thread Laish, Amit (GE Digital)
Hello, I’m Amit Laish, a security researcher from GE Digital. During one of our assessments we discovered something that we consider a bug with security implications which can cause a denial of service by disk exhausting, and we would like to share it with you, and hear you opinion about it

ANN: A new version (0.4.4) of python-gnupg has been released. It contains a security-related change - please update to this version

2019-01-24 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
A new version of the Python module which wraps GnuPG has been released. What Changed?=This is an enhancement and security-fix release, and all users are stronglyencouraged to upgrade. Brief summary: * Fixed #108: Changed how any return value from the on_data callable is  processed

ANN: A new version (0.4.3) of python-gnupg has been released. It contains a security-related change - please update to this version

2018-06-13 Thread Vinay Sajip via Python-list
A new version of the Python module which wraps GnuPG has been released. What Changed?=This is a security-fix release, and all users are strongly encouraged to upgrade.This fix mitigates against CVE-2018-12020. See the discoverer's blog post [6] formore information. Brief su

New security-annou...@python.org mailing list

2017-09-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
I’m happy to announce the availability of a new mailing list, with the mission of providing security announcements to the Python community from the Python Security Response Team (PSRT): security-annou...@python.org You can sign up in the usual Mailman way: https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Tabs are a security vulnerabilty [was Re: Who are the "spacists"?]

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 01:32, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:30 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> tabs are a major security vulnerability and should be outlawed >> in all source code. > > > I've heard many arguments both in favour of and agai

Tabs are a security vulnerabilty [was Re: Who are the "spacists"?]

2017-03-18 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:30 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > tabs are a major security vulnerability and should be outlawed > in all source code. I've heard many arguments both in favour of and against tabs, but I've never heard them described as a security vulnerability before. Let a

Acra, new open source database security suite for PostgreSQL

2017-03-10 Thread borysova . mary
Acra, new database security suite for PostgreSQL: https://github.com/cossacklabs/acra -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Database security tool for Python apps with PostgreSQL backend.

2017-03-09 Thread borysova . mary
Database security tool for Python apps with PostgreSQL backend: https://www.cossacklabs.com/blog/presenting-acra.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is requests[security] required for python 3.5+ ?

2017-02-02 Thread Chris Warrick
On 2 February 2017 at 20:41, Thomas Nyberg wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to understand whether requests[security] or just plain requests > should be installed for python 3.5. I.e. do the following packages need to > be installed: pyOpenSSL, cryptography,idna. > >

Is requests[security] required for python 3.5+ ?

2017-02-02 Thread Thomas Nyberg
Hello, I'm trying to understand whether requests[security] or just plain requests should be installed for python 3.5. I.e. do the following packages need to be installed: pyOpenSSL, cryptography, idna. The reason I'm asking is because I'm moving an application to python 3 a

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-30 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Chris Angelico : > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote: >> I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem >> to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems >> abusing that password is hard to impossible since it's your fibre to >> your

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote: > I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem > to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems > abusing that password is hard to impossible since it's your fibre to > your home. If the password i

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-30 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Anssi Saari : > "Frank Millman" writes: >> To my surprise, they sent me my existing username *and* my existing >> password, all in clear text. > > I'd say it depends on what the password is actually used for. You seem > to indicate it's just so you can access the internet? To me it seems > abusin

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-30 Thread Anssi Saari
"Frank Millman" writes: > Hi all > > This is off-topic, but I would appreciate a comment on this matter. > > I have just upgraded my internet connection from ADSL to Fibre. > > As part of the process, my ISP sent a text message to my cell phone > with the username and password I must use to conne

Re: Another security question

2016-12-25 Thread Steve D'Aprano
as a springboard to attack others, to launch ransomware attacks or shutdown the electricity grid[1] or DOS people I don't like. Poor security eventually hurts everyone. I think that, eventually, one of two things will happen: - Our entire computing infrastructure (the web, email, the IOTs, bank

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Angelico writes: > as a sysadmin, I have lots of control over the hashing, and very > little on passwords. I could enforce a minimum password length, but I > can't prevent password reuse, and I can't do much about the other > forms of weak passwords. Right, 2FA helps with re-use, and diffic

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Frank Millman
"Frank Millman" wrote in message news:o3lcfk$pah$1...@blaine.gmane.org... By the way, I have realised how I ended up getting sidetracked by Blake2 in the first place. If you call up the online documentation for Python3.6 and select modules>h> hashlib, it takes you straight to 15.2. hashl

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Frank Millman
pwd) print(pwd_hash) print(chk_password(pwd_hash, pwd)) ["sha256", "2cd1150b98dab7219136c8deceda00e3", 10, "6301857d79554c3e2035fc779e4903f098ba2df36536028b72952426a5773f0a"] True I know that 'rolling your own' is a no-no when it comes to security. I don&

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >> Correct. However, weak passwords are ultimately the user's >> responsibility, where the hashing is the server's responsibility. > > No, really, the users are part of the system and therefore the system > designer must

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Angelico writes: > Correct. However, weak passwords are ultimately the user's > responsibility, where the hashing is the server's responsibility. No, really, the users are part of the system and therefore the system designer must take the expected behavior of actual users into account. The

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Steve D'Aprano writes: > You say that as if two-factor auth was a panacea. Of course it's not a panacea, but it helps quite a lot. > That's the sort of thinking that leads to: ... Beyond that, web browsers are the new Microsoft Windows with all of its security holes

Re: Another security question

2016-12-24 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Steve D'Aprano : > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/scandinavian_at_1.html EDITED TO ADD: Here's a related story. The Bank of New Zealand suspended Internet banking because of phishing concerns. Now there's a company that is taking the threat seriously. That's the troub

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >> Solution: Don't use dictionary-attackable passwords. > > If you allow people to choose their own passwords, they'll too-often > pick dictionary-attackable ones; or even if they choose difficult ones, > they'll use them

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Angelico writes: > Solution: Don't use dictionary-attackable passwords. If you allow people to choose their own passwords, they'll too-often pick dictionary-attackable ones; or even if they choose difficult ones, they'll use them in more than one place, and eventually the weakest of those

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Angelico
lus something > else you know (answer to a low-security question like "what was your > mother's maiden name?"). My mother's maiden name was here-campaigns-your-really. My first pet was expensive-items-know-thats. The street I grew up on was sorry-days-standard-just. My

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Steve D'Aprano
le-attacks not to mention the abomination of "one factor authentication, twice", like that used by the Australian government unified web portal. To log in, you have to provide something you know (username and password), plus something else you know (answer to a low-security question like &

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > The basic problem is those functions are fast enough to make dictionary > attacks feasible. The preferred password hashing function these days is > Argon2, which has some tunable security parameters: Solution: Don't use diction

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Paul Rubin
the > above procedure is adequate. > > Does all this sound reasonable? The basic problem is those functions are fast enough to make dictionary attacks feasible. The preferred password hashing function these days is Argon2, which has some tunable security parameters: https://en.wikipedi

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > By the way, thanks for raising this interesting question! This is exactly > the sort of thing that the secrets module is supposed to make a "no > brainer", so I expect that it will get a password hash function. +1. Please can we see somethi

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 10:08 pm, Frank Millman wrote: > "Steve D'Aprano" wrote in message > news:585d009f$0$1599$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... >> >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:19 pm, Frank Millman wrote: >> >> > >> > 3. Generate the password from the string supplied by the user as >> > follows -

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Frank Millman
salting and hashing and having signatures, it pushes the responsibility onto someone else. You just give it a password and get back an ASCII string that you stash in the database. If there's a security flaw, Werkzeug can push a new version that fixes it - it's not your problem. At ver

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Ben Bacarisse
"Frank Millman" writes: > ... Here are my thoughts on improving this. > > 1. Generate a 'salt' for each password. There seem to be two ways in > the standard library to do this - >import os >salt = os.urandom(16) > >import secrets >salt = secrets.token_bytes(16) > >My guess is

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Chris Angelico
ing Flask, I generally use Werkzeug's password management features: http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/docs/0.11/utils/#werkzeug.security.generate_password_hash http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/docs/0.11/utils/#werkzeug.security.check_password_hash As well as doing everything I said above about salting and hashing and having signatures, it

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Frank Millman
"Steve D'Aprano" wrote in message news:585d009f$0$1599$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:19 pm, Frank Millman wrote: > > 3. Generate the password from the string supplied by the user as > follows - > from hashlib import blake2b > password = blake2b('my_pass

Re: Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:19 pm, Frank Millman wrote: [...] > Having read the previous thread and various links, I want to review the > way I handle passwords in my accounting application. > > At present I just store a SHA-1 hash of the password for each user. Here > are my thoughts on improving thi

Another security question

2016-12-23 Thread Frank Millman
Hi all This is a follow-up to my recent 'security question' post. I am starting a new thread, for 2 reasons - 1) I sent a link to the previous thread to my ISP for their information. It is up to them whether they do anything with it, but I wanted to keep that thread focused on th

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-23 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:10 pm, Frank Millman wrote: > If this is the standard of security out there, it is no wonder we hear of > so many attacks (and how many don't we hear of?) Everything is broken: https://medium.com/message/everything-is-broken-81e5f33a24e1 -- Steve “Chee

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Peter Pearson
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:10:40 +0200, Frank Millman wrote: [snip] > > What about the second part of my query? Is it acceptable that they keep > passwords on their system in clear text? Absolutely not. Keeping the passwords, even encrypted, is a reckless invitation to disaster. Chris has done a f

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Rich Osman
nbow >tables (or for common passwords, just Google the thing). >5) Hashes salted with something predictable or calculable. Maybe you >hash username+"blargh"+password, or something. Means the hashes don't >look the same even for the same password. >6) Hashes salted with arb

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Frank Millman wrote: > Thanks for all the info, Chris. > > This is clearly a subject you feel strongly about! > > Much appreciated. It is - partly because I've been guilty of poor password security in the past. I speak with the voice of som

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Frank Millman
"Chris Angelico" wrote in message news:CAPTjJmrG+1==nmoxf6cu2pttgcykgz_dvi36gjaqhqa9daf...@mail.gmail.com... On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Frank Millman wrote: > What about the second part of my query? Is it acceptable that they keep > passwords on their system in clear text? Well no, abso

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Chris Angelico
assword. Any of the first three could give the phenomenon you describe. And while the security is better on #3, it's still entirely vulnerable to the "disgruntled employee" attack (someone on the inside with complete information about the system). The last three all look similar

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Frank Millman
this is a good idea. The ISP is MWEB, one of the biggest service providers in South Africa, with (I guess) millions of users. If this is the standard of security out there, it is no wonder we hear of so many attacks (and how many don't we hear of?) Frank -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Frank Millman wrote: > To my surprise, they sent me my existing username *and* my existing > password, all in clear text. > > """ > Thank you for taking the time to contact [...] Technical Mail Support. > I understand the importance of your password inquiry and wil

[OT] Security question

2016-12-22 Thread Frank Millman
Hi all This is off-topic, but I would appreciate a comment on this matter. I have just upgraded my internet connection from ADSL to Fibre. As part of the process, my ISP sent a text message to my cell phone with the username and password I must use to connect. To my surprise, they sent me my

Re: First security bug related to f-strings

2016-11-05 Thread eryk sun
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote: > Perhaps. But in those cases you could just leave things on the default. > If you choose to run the interpreter with eval (and exec) disabled, you > should be aware > that you'll break tools like that. But for other situations (web server etc)

Re: First security bug related to f-strings

2016-11-05 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 5-11-2016 19:08, eryk sun wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote: >> I think perhaps we should have a command line option / environment variable >> to be able >> to disable 'eval' altogether > > I don't think that's practical. exec and eval are commonly used by > she

Re: First security bug related to f-strings

2016-11-05 Thread eryk sun
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote: > I think perhaps we should have a command line option / environment variable > to be able > to disable 'eval' altogether I don't think that's practical. exec and eval are commonly used by shells and IDEs such as IDLE and IPython. In the s

Re: First security bug related to f-strings

2016-11-05 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 5-11-2016 18:12, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > Well, that didn't take very long at all. > > Here's the first security bug which is related to the new (and badly > misnamed) f-string feature: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue28563 I think perhaps we should have a

First security bug related to f-strings

2016-11-05 Thread Steve D'Aprano
Well, that didn't take very long at all. Here's the first security bug which is related to the new (and badly misnamed) f-string feature: http://bugs.python.org/issue28563 Note what I'm not saying: I'm not saying that the bug is *caused* by f-strings. It is not. The bug i

CyberRoam Python Alternative for network security

2016-07-08 Thread Arshpreet Singh
This is question more about product information and less technical but Hope It will be use-able at some context, I use Cyeberoam(https://www.cyberoam.com/) Is there any Python alternative available for that? or If I have to write/implement something like this(https://github.com/netkiller/firewal

Re: Announcing the release of Yosai: a security framework for python applications

2016-03-27 Thread Ben Finney
Darin Gordon writes: > I am very glad to announce the first release of Yosai, a security > framework for python applications. > > Details, including link to project: > http://www.daringordon.com/introducing_yosai Rather than just a link, can you please give a couple of paragr

Announcing the release of Yosai: a security framework for python applications

2016-03-27 Thread Darin Gordon
Hey Everyone! I am very glad to announce the first release of Yosai, a security framework for python applications. Details, including link to project: http://www.daringordon.com/introducing_yosai Regards Darin -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-08-09 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 2:57:20 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Marko Rauhamaa : > > > Steven D'Aprano : > > > >> The contemporary standard approach is from Zermelo-Fraenkel set > >> theory: define 0 as the empty set, and the successor to n as the > >> union of n and the set containing n

Re: Devanagari int literals [was Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-08-08 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Marko Rauhamaa : > Steven D'Aprano : > >> The contemporary standard approach is from Zermelo-Fraenkel set >> theory: define 0 as the empty set, and the successor to n as the >> union of n and the set containing n: >> >> 0 = {} (the empty set) >> n + 1 = n ∪ {n} > > That definition barely captures

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/07/2015 15:13, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-07-24, Paul Rubin wrote: Grant Edwards writes: You can always pick out the topologist at a conference: he's the one trying to dunk his coffee cup in his doughnut. Did you hear about the idiot topologist? He couldn't tell his butt from a ho

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Grant Edwards writes: >> Did you hear about the idiot topologist? He couldn't tell his butt >> from a hole in the ground, but he *could* tell his butt from two >> holes in the ground. > > Wow. Now I know _two_ topologist jokes. The girls are going to be > impressed! I got it from here: http:/

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-24, Paul Rubin wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: > >> You can always pick out the topologist at a conference: he's the one >> trying to dunk his coffee cup in his doughnut. > > Did you hear about the idiot topologist? He couldn't tell his butt > from a hole in the ground, but he *could*

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 2:59:41 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris : > > > Fortunately, we don't need to completely understand it. New Horizons > > reached Pluto right on time after a decade of flight that involved > > taking a left turn at Jupiter... we can predict exactly what angle

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:03:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Rubin wrote: > Did you hear about the idiot topologist? He couldn't tell his butt from > a hole in the ground, but he *could* tell his butt from two holes in the > ground. This sounds more like a riddle than a joke. So in other words: the messa

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Paul Rubin
Grant Edwards writes: > You can always pick out the topologist at a conference: he's the one > trying to dunk his coffee cup in his doughnut. > [Hey, how often do you get to use a topology joke.] Did you hear about the idiot topologist? He couldn't tell his butt from a hole in the ground, but h

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 7:08:10 PM UTC-5, Grant Edwards wrote: > You can always pick out the topologist at a conference: > he's the one trying to dunk his coffee cup in his > doughnut. > > [Hey, how often do you get to use a topology joke.] Don't sale yourself short Grant. You get extra bo

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-23, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> Fortunately, we don't need to completely understand it. New Horizons >> reached Pluto right on time after a decade of flight that involved >> taking a left turn at Jupiter... we can predict exactly what angle to >> fire the rockets at in

Re: OT Re: Math-embarrassment results in CS [was: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?]

2015-07-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/07/2015 23:01, MRAB wrote: On 2015-07-23 22:50, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 23/07/2015 22:29, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Chris Angelico : Fortunately, we don't need to completely understand it. New Horizons reached Pluto right on time after a decade of flight that involved taking a left turn at

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