thank you, that was what I needed.
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> Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (NS) wrote:
>NS> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Doesn't your OS have an entropy-gathering RN generator built-in?
>NS> Alternatively, if you want lots of high-quality random numbers, buy
>NS> a cheap web camera: http://www.lavarnd.org/ . Us
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:40:43 -0500, Peter Hansen wrote:
>>Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:51:30 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>>
I've never heard of anybody using the data as source of
entropy.
>>>
>>>Me neither, but the original poster did ask
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:40:43 -0500, Peter Hansen wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:51:30 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>>I've never heard of anybody using the data as source of
>>>entropy.
>>
>> Me neither, but the original poster did ask how to read every nth byte
>>
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:51:30 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>>I've never heard of anybody using the data as source of
>>entropy.
>
> Me neither, but the original poster did ask how to read every nth byte
> of "the Internet stream", so I assumed he had something like that
On 2005-11-03, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I've never heard of anybody using the data as source of
>>>entropy.
>>
>> Me neither, but the original poster did ask how to read every
>> nth byte of "the Internet stream", so I assumed he had
>> something like that in mind.
>
> And to
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:51:30 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I have no idea what distribution data from the Internet would
>> have, I would imagine it is *extremely* non-uniform and *very*
>> biased towards certain values (lots of "<" and ">" I bet, and
>> relatively few "\x03").
>
> I've never he
On 2005-11-03, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've never heard of anybody using the data as source of
>> entropy. All the entropy gathering I've read about used the
>> timing of network events, not the user-data associated with
>> those events.
>
> Me neither, but the original post
On 2005-11-03, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I think that the timing of certain network events is one of the
>>>Linux kernel's entropy sources.
>>
>> BSD as well. The key word is "one". While network events don't make a
>> good source of random data, proplery combining such source
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
>>BSD as well. The key word is "one". While network events don't make a
>>good source of random data, proplery combining such sources can create
>>good random data.
>
>
>
> Depends on what you mean by "random". In particular,
> the randomness of netw
Mike Meyer wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>On 2005-11-02, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Using data from the Internet is just a bad idea.
>>
>>I think that the timing of certain network events is one of the
>>Li
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2005-11-02, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Using data from the Internet is just a bad idea.
> I think that the timing of certain network events is one of the
> Linux kernel's entropy sources.
On 2005-11-02, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Doesn't your OS have an entropy-gathering RN generator built-in?
>
> Alternatively, if you want lots of high-quality random numbers, buy
> a cheap web camera: http://www.lavarnd.org/.
The therm
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't your OS have an entropy-gathering RN generator built-in?
Alternatively, if you want lots of high-quality random numbers, buy
a cheap web camera: http://www.lavarnd.org/ . Using data from the
Internet is just a bad idea.
Neil
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2005-11-02, Levi Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
>> way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
So far interesting.
>> 1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
M
On 2005-11-02, Levi Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
> way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
>
> 1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
What OS? What, exactly, do you want to capture?
> 2. how would I sk
Peter Hansen wrote:
>> Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
>> way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
>>
>> 1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
>
> What specifically do you mean by the term "internet stream" here?
> Generally speaking, the intern
Levi Campbell wrote:
> Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
> way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
>
> 1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
what's an internet stream?
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Levi Campbell wrote:
> Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
> way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
>
> 1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
What specifically do you mean by the term "internet stream" here?
Generally speaking, the internet is n
Hi, I'm working on a random number generator using the internet as a
way to gather entropy, I have two questions.
1. is there a way to capture the internet stream?
2. how would I skip every 2nd, 3rd, or 4th byte to protect privacy?
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