Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-08 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 06-07-13 00:40, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: > On 07/04/2013 06:09 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 03-07-13 19:11, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >>> On 07/03/2013 03:21 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: > If your going to point out something negative about someo

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-05 Thread rurpy
On 07/04/2013 02:50 AM, feedthetr...@gmx.de wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 19:01:23 UTC+2 schrieb ru...@yahoo.com: >[...] Any questions? >> Yes. >[...] >> I know the answers to all these questions are obvious >> to everyone else here but I am not sure about them. > > Then I hope, I was

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-05 Thread rurpy
On 07/04/2013 06:09 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 03-07-13 19:11, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >> On 07/03/2013 03:21 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >>> Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: If your going to point out something negative about someone then do so politely. Ask yourself if you

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread Joshua Landau
On 4 July 2013 12:19, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 04-07-13 01:40, Joshua Landau schreef: > >> Bear in mind that if the way you were acting was all in my "with >> trepidation" category, I would likely have not spoken up. I believe >> you crossed a lot further beyond that line. > > I had to look up "t

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-07-13 19:11, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: > On 07/03/2013 03:21 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >>> If your going to point out something negative about someone >>> then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out >>> incompetence to your boss (o

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 04-07-13 01:40, Joshua Landau schreef: > On 3 July 2013 11:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> This is not an attack of character. Level of skill/competence is >> not in general seen as a character trait. > I disagree. I'm not sure how to argue this, rather than point out that > by "character trait"

Fwd: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 8:23 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: What are the file permissions (file modes) on all your home directories? Do you know what they mean? root@nikos [~]# ls -al /home total 88 drwx--x--x 22 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:03 ./ drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jun 12 01:21 .

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread feedthetroll
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 19:01:23 UTC+2 schrieb ru...@yahoo.com: > On 07/03/2013 08:12 AM, feedthetr...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 12:00:14 UTC+2 schrieb Νίκος: > Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: > ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers.

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-04 Thread feedthetroll
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 19:00:50 UTC+2 schrieb rusi: > On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:42:19 PM UTC+5:30, feedth...@gmx.de wrote: > > Any questions? > YES! > Who is that hiding behind 'FeedTheTroll' ? Oh, it's just yattt (yet another troll trolling troll) lurching around to find amazing threads (

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 4/7/2013 8:44 πμ, ο/η ru...@yahoo.com έγραψε: On 07/03/2013 09:07 PM, rusi wrote: [...] I got into it because I felt Chris had done more service to Nikos and the list than others and then was being misrepresented. I don't know why you think I "misrepresented" him. I questioned the morali

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/03/2013 09:07 PM, rusi wrote: >[...] > I got into it because I felt Chris had done more service to Nikos and > the list than others and then was being misrepresented. I don't know why you think I "misrepresented" him. I questioned the morality of his accepting access to Nikos' server and th

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rusi
On Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:38:31 AM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > And also, let's end this and all the related discussions about > trolling and how to deal with trolls. I can see how some are annoyed > by Νίκος and his posts but I for one am *much more* concerned/bothered > by the surrounding

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:18:58 -0700, rurpy wrote: > On 07/03/2013 12:08 PM, rusi wrote: >> On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:31:23 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Are the existence of laws against beating people up negated because >>> you told them in advance? Or negated because they "deserve"

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/03/2013 05:12 PM, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 3 July 2013 02:21, wrote: >[...] >> The reality is that few of the people at whom such statements >> are aimed will make such fine distinction. If you use negatively >> judgemental statements against other posters, a significant >> number of them

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 4 July 2013 01:53, Ben Finney wrote: > rusi writes: > >> As a good Christian I believe that Chris tried more than anyone else >> on this list to help Nikos before talking recourse to another gem of >> biblical wisdom: > >> He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him >> chast

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Ben Finney
rusi writes: > As a good Christian I believe that Chris tried more than anyone else > on this list to help Nikos before talking recourse to another gem of > biblical wisdom: > He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him > chasteneth him betimes. Good Christian morality entail

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Landau
On 3 July 2013 11:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 02-07-13 15:40, Joshua Landau schreef: >> On 2 July 2013 13:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: >>> >> >> There is not ever a place on this list where you will need to call >> someone incompetent. You can explain to someone that they do not >> understand what

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Landau
On 3 July 2013 02:21, wrote: > On 07/02/2013 05:18 PM, Joshua Landau wrote: >> On 2 July 2013 23:34, Ben Finney wrote: >>[...] >>> Needless to say, I disagree with your position. There is no place for >>> baseless insults in this community; but when the behaviour of someone in >>> this community

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/03/2013 12:08 PM, rusi wrote: > On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:31:23 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Are the existence of laws against beating people up negated because >> you told them in advance? Or negated because they "deserve" the >> beating? > > One of the fundamental purpose of

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:08:11 -0700, rusi wrote: > And when Nikos moves up from petty criminal status to responsible > citizen, "Petty criminal status"? /headdesk -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:31:23 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Are the existence of laws against beating people up > negated because you told them in advance? Or negated > because they "deserve" the beating? One of the fundamental purpose of laws is to legalize what you call 'bea

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 8:23 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: >>> What are the file permissions (file modes) on all your home >>> directories? Do you know what they mean? >> >> >> root@nikos [~]# ls -al /home >> total 88 >> drwx--x--x 22 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:03 ./ >> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 7:42 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: On 03/07/2013 16:44, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, � wrote: I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will open a norla user account for someone if i feel like trusting him and copy my python

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 3/7/2013 7:53 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: >> What are the file permissions (file modes) on all your home >> directories? Do you know what they mean? > > > root@nikos [~]# ls -al /home > total 88 > drwx--x--x 22 root root 4096 Jul 3 20

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/02/2013 07:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >[...] > On the other hand, I've certainly learned a lot in my newbie days from > being told off quite harshly by some of the Python community alphas, like > the Effbot Fredrik Lundh, and Alex Martelli. It hurts to be told you're > an idiot by one o

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/03/2013 03:21 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >> If your going to point out something negative about someone >> then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out >> incompetence to your boss (or anyone else where impoliteness >> could have rea

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 7:53 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Νίκος wrote: Στις 3/7/2013 6:44 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, � wrote: I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will open a norla user account fo

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On 03/07/2013 16:44, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Νίκος wrote: I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will open a norla user account for someone if i feel like trusting him and copy my python file to his homr dir to take alook from within.

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rurpy
On 07/03/2013 08:12 AM, feedthetr...@gmx.de wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 12:00:14 UTC+2 schrieb Νίκος: >> >> Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: >> >> ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. >> >> ... >> >> I just received a call form on of my customers aski

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:42:19 PM UTC+5:30, feedth...@gmx.de wrote: > Any questions? YES! Who is that hiding behind 'FeedTheTroll' ? Well thanks anyways :-) I was thinking of doing that but could not find my oxygen mask needed to wade into the steaming pile of ... -- http://mail.python.or

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 3/7/2013 6:44 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: >> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, � wrote: >>> >>> I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will >>> open >>> a norla user account for someone if i feel like trusting

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 6:44 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, � wrote: I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will open a norla user account for someone if i feel like trusting him and copy my python file to his homr dir to take alook from wit

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Νίκος wrote: > I will *not* give away my root pass to anyone for any reason but i will open > a norla user account for someone if i feel like trusting him and copy my > python file to his homr dir to take alook from within. Well... well... baby steps. That's someth

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 5:44 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM, � wrote: 3/7/2013 12:45 ��, �/� Chris Angelico ��: ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. Which seemed to be accepted on this list without a problem. If my boss gave a random stran

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On 03/07/2013 15:12, feedthetr...@gmx.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 12:00:14 UTC+2 schrieb Νίκος: Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. ... I just received a call form on of my customers asking me to explain your mail ...

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: > >>> ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. >>> >>> Which seemed to be accepted on this list without a problem. >> >> >> If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root >

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root >> password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he had >> betrayed his (our) customers' trust. I would say it with strong >> emphasis and a raised tone, too, and n

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread feedthetroll
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2013 12:00:14 UTC+2 schrieb Νίκος: > Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: > >> ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. > ... > I just received a call form on of my customers asking me to explain your > mail ... > Of course i should have give you the

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:15:15 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root > password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he had > betrayed his (our) customers' trust. I would say it with strong > emphasis and a raised tone

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Νίκος
Στις 3/7/2013 12:45 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. Which seemed to be accepted on this list without a problem. If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he ha

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-07-13 11:45, Chris Angelico schreef: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Antoon Pardon > wrote: >> Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >>> If your going to point out something negative about someone >>> then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out >>> incompetence to you

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-07-13 15:40, Joshua Landau schreef: > On 2 July 2013 13:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 02-07-13 11:34, Joshua Landau schreef: >> >>> No it does not. I'd give you more of a counter but I actually have no >>> idea how you came up with that. >> Please answer the following question. If someone b

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: >> If your going to point out something negative about someone >> then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out >> incompetence to your boss (or anyone else where impoliteness >> could

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-07-13 02:30, ru...@yahoo.com schreef: > If your going to point out something negative about someone > then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out > incompetence to your boss (or anyone else where impoliteness > could have real consequences for you) if you would say, > "you'r

OT Plague [was Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list]

2013-07-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 06:48:59 -0700, rusi wrote: > A plague is raging in the town > A rat scampers into the room. > People are harried --- A RAT! [...] Very imaginative, but your characterisation of people's responses to the plague rat appears to have very little in common with the actual respon

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread rurpy
On 07/02/2013 05:18 PM, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 2 July 2013 23:34, Ben Finney wrote: >[...] >> Needless to say, I disagree with your position. There is no place for >> baseless insults in this community; but when the behaviour of someone in >> this community is harmful, then it is entirely appro

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:30:32 -0700, rurpy wrote: >> Needless to say, I disagree with your position. There is no place for >> baseless insults in this community; but when the behaviour of someone >> in this community is harmful, then it is entirely appropriate to use >> clear terms (e.g. “incompete

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Joshua Landau
On 3 July 2013 01:36, Ben Finney wrote: > I think we've found the root of > the disagreement. I've made my position clear and will let it rest there. Seconded. > Thanks for caring enough about this community to act in the > interest of keeping it open, considerate, and respectful. Thank you in

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Finney
Joshua Landau writes: > Firstly, describing someone's behaviour and describing someone's > character are two completely different things. I agree with that. > Antoon is describing people's character. I disagree with that. To merely describe someone as “incompetent” is not to describe their beh

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread rurpy
Since this thread too has gone into the trash hole thanks to our resident trolls I might as well comment... On 07/02/2013 04:34 PM, Ben Finney wrote:> Joshua Landau writes: > >> On 2 July 2013 13:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> > Please answer the following question. If someone behaved >> > incomp

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:53:53 +, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:16:37 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> I would like people to have that in mind when they try to tell others >> to just ignore the behaviour that bothers them. Maybe it would help >> them to be a bit more patient to

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Joshua Landau
On 2 July 2013 23:34, Ben Finney wrote: > > Joshua Landau writes: >> There is not ever a place on this list where you will need to call >> someone incompetent. > > So even if that term describes their behaviour and manner, you think > no-one should ever point it out? Yes. I see no instance where

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Finney
Joshua Landau writes: > On 2 July 2013 13:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: > > Please answer the following question. If someone behaved > > incompetently, how can I clearly state that fact when > > "incompetently" is seen as an insult and insults don't belong on the > > list? > > There is not ever a pla

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:14:42 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:34:42 -0700, rusi wrote: > >> 2. "I am killfiling you" is bullying behavior. It is worse than >> useless because a. The problem cases couldn't care a hoot b. Those who >> could contribute usefully are shut up c.

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread rusi
A plague is raging in the town A rat scampers into the room. People are harried --- A RAT! Rurpy: Rats are living beings dont you know?! Never kill a living being! Its not humanitarian, er rattatitarian. (200 more posts on humanitarianism, veganism, rattatitarianism etc) Alex: Hear Hear! But fir

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Joshua Landau
On 2 July 2013 13:01, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 02-07-13 11:34, Joshua Landau schreef: > >> No it does not. I'd give you more of a counter but I actually have no >> idea how you came up with that. > Please answer the following question. If someone behaved incompetently, > how can I clearly state t

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Denis McMahon
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:16:37 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > I would like people to have that in mind when they try to tell others to > just ignore the behaviour that bothers them. Maybe it would help them to > be a bit more patient to those who have trouble following the advise. It's quite clear t

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-07-13 11:34, Joshua Landau schreef: > No it does not. I'd give you more of a counter but I actually have no > idea how you came up with that. Please answer the following question. If someone behaved incompetently, how can I clearly state that fact when "incompetently" is seen as an insult an

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Joshua Landau
On 2 July 2013 08:22, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 21:28, Joshua Landau schreef: > >> Well then you are wrong. But fine, I'll use your definition incorrect >> as it may be (when talking to you, please don't misrepresent my other >> posts). >> >> Nevertheless, these statements that we are tal

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-07-13 09:43, Ian Kelly schreef: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Antoon Pardon > wrote: >> Why about you just ignore me? >> >> Serious, a lot of people here seem to think that if someone is bothered >> by someone else, the bothered person should just ignore the botherer. >> >> That is unti

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Fine you give me an opportunity to point out the problems in your thinking > without giving yourself the opportunity to respond. I can live with that. And by continuing to rant, you just make other people sick of reading your posts. Please, d

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-07-13 00:12, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:42:48 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> How about the following comprimise. I'll get myself a second identity. >> Every respons I make to Nikos will be done with the same identity. >> Normal python exchanges will be done with the

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 21:32, Joshua Landau schreef: > On 1 July 2013 20:18, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 01-07-13 17:33, Steven D'Aprano schreef: >> >>> Okay, thank you for explaining the situation. Now, please stop >>> baiting Nikos. >> I am not baiting Nikos. I know he mentions this two week period but all

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Why about you just ignore me? > > Serious, a lot of people here seem to think that if someone is bothered > by someone else, the bothered person should just ignore the botherer. > > That is until something starts bothering these people themse

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 21:28, Joshua Landau schreef: > Well then you are wrong. But fine, I'll use your definition incorrect > as it may be (when talking to you, please don't misrepresent my other > posts). > > Nevertheless, these statements that we are talking about, that I shall > now term "pseudo-insults"

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:34:42 -0700, rusi wrote: > 2. "I am killfiling you" is bullying behavior. It is worse than useless > because a. The problem cases couldn't care a hoot b. Those who could > contribute usefully are shut up c. The messengers are being shot as > substitute for the culprits I d

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-02 Thread Steve Simmons
"Νίκος" wrote: >Στις 1/7/2013 12:31 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: > >> I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming >> increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul >language >> that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have any >> decency at

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-07-13 01:17, Denis McMahon schreef: > On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:42:48 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> How about the following comprimise. >> Let me know what you think about this. > How about you just ignore him. Why about you just ignore me? Serious, a lot of people here seem to think t

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 2 July 2013 05:34, rusi wrote: > On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:36:53 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote: >> On 2013-07-01, rusi wrote: >> > 1. Kill-filing/spam-filtering are tools for spam. >> > Nikos is certainly not spamming in the sense of automated >> > sending out of cooked mail to zillions of re

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread rusi
On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:36:53 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2013-07-01, rusi wrote: > > 1. Kill-filing/spam-filtering are tools for spam. > > Nikos is certainly not spamming in the sense of automated > > sending out of cooked mail to zillions of recipients/lists. > > His posts are definit

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread alex23
On 1/07/2013 7:37 PM, Νίκος wrote: I dont expect anyone to solve my problems, This is not consistent with the number of "HELP ME I BROKE MY BUSINESS" posts you've made. iam happy if they point me to a direction which i can solve it myself This is not consistent with your repeated claim that

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Denis McMahon
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:42:48 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > How about the following comprimise. > Let me know what you think about this. How about you just ignore him. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Denis McMahon
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:18:26 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > I am not baiting Nikos. Your opinion, mine differs. > all I have done in the last two weeks that involves Nikos as a > subject is the "Don't feed the troll thread" Calling him a troll is baiting. Please stop. -- Denis McMahon, denis

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:42:48 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > How about the following comprimise. I'll get myself a second identity. > Every respons I make to Nikos will be done with the same identity. > Normal python exchanges will be done with the other. You can then simply > killfile my identity t

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 1 July 2013 20:18, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 17:33, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > >> On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:08:18 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> >>> Op 01-07-13 14:43, Steven D'Aprano schreef: >>> Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see what problem y

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 1 July 2013 20:12, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 18:56, Joshua Landau schreef: > >> >> To put things in perspective, these are the people who have been >> insulting on this post: >> >> Mark Lawrence (once, probably without meaning to be insulting) >> Nikos >> Antoon Pardon > > > I don't co

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread rusi
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:46:40 AM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 1 July 2013 19:29, rusi wrote: > > > On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:26:21 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote: > > >> So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing > >> the list. > > This 'and' is type-wro

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 17:33, Steven D'Aprano schreef: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:08:18 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 01-07-13 14:43, Steven D'Aprano schreef: Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see what problem you are trying to solve today. Nikos is not trying to solve a pro

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 1 July 2013 19:29, rusi wrote: > On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:26:21 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote: >> So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing >> the list. > > This 'and' is type-wrong. I don't follow. >> I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 18:56, Joshua Landau schreef: To put things in perspective, these are the people who have been insulting on this post: Mark Lawrence (once, probably without meaning to be insulting) Nikos Antoon Pardon I don't consider something insulting if it can be supported by argument and evi

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 16:01, Walter Hurry schreef: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:56:54 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 01-07-13 09:55, Νίκος schreef: Στις 1/7/2013 9:37 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: Remember that Nick is as much a human as all of us, he is bound to have his feelings hurt when so many people pi

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread rusi
On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:26:21 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote: > So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing > the list. This 'and' is type-wrong. > I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but you > two in particular are causing a lot of trouble for th

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 1 July 2013 18:15, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 1/7/2013 7:56 μμ, ο/η Joshua Landau έγραψε: > >> So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing >> the list. I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but you >> two in particular are causing a lot of trouble for the rest

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 7:56 μμ, ο/η Joshua Landau έγραψε: So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing the list. I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but you two in particular are causing a lot of trouble for the rest of us. It is not hard to avoid making your dis

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Joshua Landau
On 1 July 2013 16:49, rusi wrote: > On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:04:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> > And no, i do not want to piss off people like you, who have spend time >> > helping me. >> Too late. I asked you to stop flaming on-list, and you didn't. I am now >> kill-filing you for a m

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 6:34 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: The above of course assumes that I have not kill-filed you for continuing to be abusive on-list. So, Steven you want me to sit tight and read all the insults coming from this guy? If that happened to you, wouldn't you feel the need and urge to

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 6:00 μμ, ο/η rusi έγραψε: On Monday, July 1, 2013 7:31:18 PM UTC+5:30, Walter Hurry wrote: Please...enough. Polite request: consider killfiling him and having done with it. It is irritating to see all the responses even though I killfiled him long ago. Whilst I realise, of course

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 6:34 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: And no, i do not want to piss off people like you, who have spend time helping me. Too late. I asked you to stop flaming on-list, and you didn't. I am now kill-filing you for a month. Feel grateful that it is not permanent, and take this time

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread rusi
On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:04:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > And no, i do not want to piss off people like you, who have spend time > > helping me. > Too late. I asked you to stop flaming on-list, and you didn't. I am now > kill-filing you for a month. Feel grateful that it is not perma

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:08:18 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 14:43, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > >> Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see >> what problem you are trying to solve today. > > Nikos is not trying to solve a problem in this thread. What happened

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:28:52 +0300, Νίκος wrote: > Στις 1/7/2013 3:43 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: [...] >> The above of course assumes that I have not kill-filed you for >> continuing to be abusive on-list. > > So, Steven you want me to sit tight and read all the insults coming from > this gu

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-07-01, rusi wrote: > To wit: > > 1. Kill-filing/spam-filtering are tools for spam. > Nikos is certainly not spamming in the sense of automated > sending out of cooked mail to zillions of recipients/lists. > His posts are definite and intentional I disagree. Kill-files are not only for spa

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread rusi
On Monday, July 1, 2013 7:31:18 PM UTC+5:30, Walter Hurry wrote: > Please...enough. Polite request: consider killfiling him and having done > with it. > > > It is irritating to see all the responses even though I killfiled him > long ago. Whilst I realise, of course, that it is entirely your >

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:56:54 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 09:55, Νίκος schreef: >> Στις 1/7/2013 9:37 πμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: Remember that Nick is as much a human as all of us, he is bound to have his feelings hurt when so many people pick on him -- whether they

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.07.01 08:28, Νίκος wrote: > So, Steven you want me to sit tight and read all the insults coming from > this guy? > > If that happened to you, wouldn't you feel the need and urge to reply > back and stand for yourself? You can ignore it (this is the best solution) or you can take it off-l

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 3:43 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:52:28 +0300, Νίκος wrote: All i did was asking for help for issues i couldn't solve. That what everybody would do if he couldn't help himself solve something. [...] So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Νίκος
Στις 1/7/2013 3:28 μμ, ο/η Antoon Pardon έγραψε: Did i told you to fuck off? Well never mind. Fuck off! I think this needs some work. You need more creativity. Try to think of something more forceful. My little niece of 10 can do better than that. Well i could, but i don't want to spend my tim

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 14:43, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > Νίκος, I am not going to wade through this long, long thread to see what > problem you are trying to solve today. Nikos is not trying to solve a problem in this thread. What happened is that the original poster here got a rather short answer to his q

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:52:28 +0300, Νίκος wrote: > All i did was asking for help for issues i couldn't solve. That what > everybody would do if he couldn't help himself solve something. [...] > So shut your piehole and start proving yourself useful in this list. Or > sod off. > Preferably do the l

Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list

2013-07-01 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 01-07-13 11:46, Νίκος schreef: > Στις 1/7/2013 12:31 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε: > >> I don't know about the other members of this list but I am becoming >> increasingly disturbed by the rudeness and especially the foul language >> that is being perpetrated on this thread. Please, if you have

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