Re: program deployment

2007-01-07 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:16:09 -, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Python code is normally deployed as straight source code. >> >> But isn't this a problem of its own? I mean, many people do not feel >> good if the know that th

Re: program deployment

2007-01-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:19:37 -0800, king kikapu wrote: > > >> > Are they embarassed by their code? > > hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... I don't understand... how can they steal an idea? If somebody copies your idea, you've still got it, it's not gone. -- Steven. -- h

Re: program deployment

2007-01-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:01:17 -0800, Michele Simionato wrote: > king kikapu wrote: >> > > Are they embarassed by their code? >> >> hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... > > I believe that shipping just the bytecode is a pretty effective way to > stop 99% of programmers from > rea

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
> Of course you do not distribute .cs (or .vb) files when deploying your > application, but decompilers for .NET are plenty. Same for Java. Yes, but in .Net we have some strong dotfuscators that makes reverse engineer really difficult. In any way, it is not so easy to get to the source as .py fi

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Stephen Eilert
king kikapu wrote: > Ok, i got the point...Things are a little bit different on the other > way of the fence (Microsoft way...) and so many of Python's elements > are a little (at least) strange at first... > > But hey, thank you all! Not really! Of course you do not distribute .cs (or .vb) file

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Laszlo Nagy
> hehehe, but what I am thinking: Is it somehow possible to _really_ hide > the source from being viewed by other persons when using python? Not > that I want to do that ( I am an Open Source friend ), but that might > get others that rely on that (commercial) to use python for more > projects as

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
Ok, i got the point...Things are a little bit different on the other way of the fence (Microsoft way...) and so many of Python's elements are a little (at least) strange at first... But hey, thank you all! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Michele Simionato
king kikapu wrote: > > > Are they embarassed by their code? > > hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... I believe that shipping just the bytecode is a pretty effective way to stop 99% of programmers from reading your code. Yes, in theory they could decompile it, but in practice, pr

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Under Windows, I ususally use py2exe+inno-setup. > > Xmmm...i have downloaded this and try a (very) simple project > and it is working great. Of your experience, does it also > working great when you have more complex solutions, > e.x. many 3

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Are they embarassed by their code? > > hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... They're deluding themselves. The vast majority of ideas aren't worth stealing. If they are worth stealing, you don't need the source code to

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
> Under Windows, I ususally use py2exe+inno-setup. Xmmm...i have downloaded this and try a (very) simple project and it is working great. Of your experience, does it also working great when you have more complex solutions, e.x. many 3rd party modules like wxWidgets and so ?? -- http://mail.pytho

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Andy Dingley
king kikapu wrote: > > > Are they embarassed by their code? > > hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... Ever heard of "Open Source" ? I do better by letting other people steal my ideas (and stealing theirs too) than I'd ever do by keeping things secret. -- http://mail.python.or

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Thomas Ploch
Grant Edwards schrieb: > On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Python code is normally deployed as straight source code. >> But isn't this a problem of its own? I mean, many people do not feel >> good if the know that their source code is lying around on other >> machines...

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
> > Are they embarassed by their code? hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Python code is normally deployed as straight source code. > > But isn't this a problem of its own? I mean, many people do not feel > good if the know that their source code is lying around on other > machines... Are they embarassed by their

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-05, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i am learning Python, just finished a book and i am starting > to write programs. I just want to ask, is the "correct" way to > deploy my programs to other computers, the .pyc files ?? That depends on the platform. Under Linux, one usually

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
king kikapu wrote: >> Python code is normally deployed as straight source code. > > But isn't this a problem of its own ?? I mean, many people do not feel > good if the know that their source code is lying around on other > machines... This has been discussed a bazillion times on this list - the

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
> Python code is normally deployed as straight source code. But isn't this a problem of its own ?? I mean, many people do not feel good if the know that their source code is lying around on other machines... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread Ravi Teja
king kikapu wrote: > hi to all folks here, > > i am learning Python, just finished a book and i am starting to write > programs. > I just want to ask, is the "correct" way to deploy my programs to other > computers, the .pyc files ?? > > I now that with the "-m compileall ." switch can compile a .

program deployment

2007-01-05 Thread king kikapu
hi to all folks here, i am learning Python, just finished a book and i am starting to write programs. I just want to ask, is the "correct" way to deploy my programs to other computers, the .pyc files ?? I now that with the "-m compileall ." switch can compile a .py file into bytecodes. So i suppo