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2016-01-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-01-10, Cody Piersall wrote: > It's never a bad idea to consult a lawyer. Since you work for GE, I would > imagine there is an army of lawyers That is udoubtedly true. > happy to answer this question Whether you can actually get an answer out of any of them within before the expiry of

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2016-01-11 Thread Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE Aviation)
Thank you very much for your reply. Best Regards From: Cody Piersall [mailto:cody.piers...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:43 PM To: python-list@python.org Cc: Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE Aviation) Subject: Re: licenses On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE

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2016-01-10 Thread Bernardo Sulzbach
Cody wrote a good and correct answer. Everyone is going with "lawyers, lawyers, lawyers...". It is not any lawyer. Most big companies and consulting firms will have lawyers that are experienced with open source licenses, some that have even fought against GPL and whatnot. So look for t

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2016-01-10 Thread Cody Piersall
ub.com/clade/PyDAQmx) * Py Visa is MIT licensed (info on their GitHub: https://github.com/hgrecco/pyvisa/blob/master/LICENSE), which means you can also use it in your software as long as you include the license. For summaries of lots of licenses, you can look at tldrlegal.com. * BSD license: https://

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2016-01-10 Thread Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
freedom to > execute, modify, and/or redistribute the work. Correct. > So long as the code base you derive from them is also free software, you > will not need to take special care. No, not all free software licenses (FSLs) are compatible with each other. Most notably, not all FS

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2016-01-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
the project owner and ask him or her to give you a licence to the work using an approved open source licence: http://opensource.org/licenses/ - If they use a proprietary, closed-source licence, you probably will not be allowed to distribute their software, or you may have to pay them mon

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2016-01-09 Thread Ben Finney
"Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE Aviation)" writes: > We develop applications here with Python and I want to know if there's > issues by using. We use NumPy, PyDaqMx, Py Visa Those are all free software: meaning, every recipient has freedom to execute, modify, and/or redistribute the work. So long a

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2016-01-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 08/01/2016 19:41, Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE Aviation) wrote: Hello We develop applications here with Python and I want to know if there's issues by using. We use NumPy, PyDaqMx, Py Visa How can we cover this licensing? [copying the answer I've just given over at webmaster@] I'm not sure

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2016-01-09 Thread Martinez, Jorge Alberto (GE Aviation)
Hello We develop applications here with Python and I want to know if there's issues by using. We use NumPy, PyDaqMx, Py Visa How can we cover this licensing? Regards Jorge Alberto Martinez GE Aviation Systems HW Team Manager GEIQ Power Engineering T +52 442 456 6446 E jorgealberto.marti...@ge

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Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-09 Thread poisondart
1. You seem to ignore the fact that volunteer teachers exist. 2. I aspire to not repeat history. Esp. history that I don't completely agree with... The description I supplied for the license I had in mind was not ready for your scrutiny, but as somebody else said licensing is less trivial than we

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-09 Thread Terry Hancock
On Thursday 02 June 2005 01:42 am, poisondart wrote: > If this thread has shown anything it is I'm a bit green with respect to > software licenses, Yep. We've all been there at some time, though. ;-) > but the other thing is that I consider myself as an > isolated case a

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Steve Holden
max wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > >>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:12:18 +, max wrote: >> >> >>>This is one thing that bothers me about the gpl. It essentially >>>tries to create 'code as a legal entity'. That is, it gives >>>rights not to the cr

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Robert Kern
max wrote: > Perhaps 'attempts' is too strong a word. Maybe 'ends up giving' would > help my argument more. The best example I can come up with at the > moment is programmer A releases a project under the gpl. Programmer B > makes a substantial contribution to the project, which pA reads > thr

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 06:08:36PM -, max wrote: > I guess my argument is that with multiple contributors, the gpl, in > comparison to say, a BSD style license, grants power to the code. If 3 > people work on a gpl project, they must agree to any changes. If 3 > people work on a BSD style pr

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Andrew Dalke
max: >> For me, the fact >> that corporations are considered people by the law is ridiculous. Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Ridiculous? I don't think so. Take, for example, Acme Inc. Acme purchases > a new factory. Who owns the factory? The CEO? The Chairperson of the Board > of Directors? Split in e

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread max
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:12:18 +, max wrote: > >> This is one thing that bothers me about the gpl. It essentially >> tries to create 'code as a legal entity'. That is, it gives >> rights not to the creator of some code, but

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:49:28PM -0700, Robert Kern wrote: > Well, the FSF at least thinks that internal use within an organization > does not constitute distribution. Well, the problem are contractors. It's very important (for example in Germany) for a number of legal reasons that contractors a

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:12:18 +, max wrote: > This is one thing that bothers me about the gpl. It essentially tries > to create 'code as a legal entity'. That is, it gives rights not to > the creator of some code, but to the code itself. Can you please show me where in the GPL it gives righ

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread max
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > By law, corporations (and possibly some other organisations) > *are* people. Not natural people like you or I, but nevertheless > people. For good or bad, this is the legal fact (or perhaps > "legal fiction") in most countries

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
gt;>> specifically disallows "distribution" (allowing your employee to use >>> the software) under licenses that restrict the rights granted by the >>> GPL. >> >> Well, the FSF at least thinks that internal use within an organization >> doe

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-05 Thread Terry Reedy
e the end user, and have all the rights granted by the GPL. So >> they can distribute the software - possibly to your >> competitors. Employment contracts can't prohibit this, because the GPL >> specifically disallows "distribution" (allowing your employee to us

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-04 Thread Robert Kern
tors. Employment contracts can't prohibit this, because the GPL > specifically disallows "distribution" (allowing your employee to use > the software) under licenses that restrict the rights granted by the > GPL. > > I don't know whether this would hold water in court.

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-04 Thread Mike Meyer
pecifically disallows "distribution" (allowing your employee to use the software) under licenses that restrict the rights granted by the GPL. I don't know whether this would hold water in court. I'd certainly hate to be the one responsible for a company finding out the hard way

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-04 Thread Steve Holden
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 01:57:25AM -0700, Robert Kern wrote: > >>And for thoroughness, allow me to add "even if they have no intention or >>desire to profit monetarily." I can't explain exactly why this is the >>case, but it seems to be true in the overwhelming majority

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-02 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Am Donnerstag, den 02.06.2005, 17:52 + schrieb Karl A. Krueger: > Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *) GPL is not acceptable for "library" stuff, because as a software > > developer I'm sometimes forced to do "closed" stuff. > > (Yep, even nowadays there are place where it's b

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-02 Thread Karl A. Krueger
Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *) GPL is not acceptable for "library" stuff, because as a software > developer I'm sometimes forced to do "closed" stuff. > (Yep, even nowadays there are place where it's basically a legal >requirement.) I'm curious about this last one. The G

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-02 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 01:57:25AM -0700, Robert Kern wrote: > And for thoroughness, allow me to add "even if they have no intention or > desire to profit monetarily." I can't explain exactly why this is the > case, but it seems to be true in the overwhelming majority of cases. > Academic projec

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-02 Thread Robert Kern
Paul Rubin wrote: > "poisondart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Yes, what I ask may seem ridiculous, but I don't view it that way. >>Instead, I find that it is the implication of using a restrictive >>license such as I described to be ridiculous: if there is no monetary >>gain option in the license

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-02 Thread Paul Rubin
"poisondart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If this thread has shown anything it is I'm a bit green with respect to > software licenses, but the other thing is that I consider myself as an > isolated case and I wanted to know if there were others who wanted the >

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-01 Thread poisondart
If this thread has shown anything it is I'm a bit green with respect to software licenses, but the other thing is that I consider myself as an isolated case and I wanted to know if there were others who wanted the same thing as me. I'm curious to know what the money that open sourc

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-01 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 29 May 2005 01:52 pm, poisondart wrote: > With the exception of the example with neighbour Bobby (which directly > utilizes my code for profit, in which case is a definite no), I don't > see why your other examples should make me reconsider releasing my > software for free--in all the cas

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-06-01 Thread Robert Kern
and the project languishes. Having a real Open Source license, especially one of the copyleft licenses like the GPL, encourages users to use the code, improve it, and gift the improvements back to the community. You end up with a community of people freely contributing their expertise to the wo

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-31 Thread poisondart
> I'm a little curious about your position. > > Though code encodes knowledge (hence the word, of course :-), the > system of concepts embodied in your code is not the same thing as the > code itself. Right? > > So, firstly, I don't follow your argument there: how does it follow > from the fact th

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-30 Thread Rocco Moretti
poisondart wrote: > With the exception of the example with neighbour Bobby (which directly > utilizes my code for profit, in which case is a definite no), I don't > see why your other examples should make me reconsider releasing my > software for free. I don't think he's trying to make you recons

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-30 Thread John J. Lee
"poisondart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I plan to release my programs for academic and pedagogical purposes. > The knowledge contained in these programs is the same knowledge that > people use to speak a language--did you buy a copy of the English > language when you decided to learn it? >

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-29 Thread John J. Lee
ieve it's feasible to get contributors to (literally) sign over their copyright to you, consider dual GPL+commercial licensing. Trolltech do this very successfully with their Qt GUI framework (they also have educational licenses too, I believe, though the release of Qt 4/Win under the GPL will

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-29 Thread poisondart
With the exception of the example with neighbour Bobby (which directly utilizes my code for profit, in which case is a definite no), I don't see why your other examples should make me reconsider releasing my software for free--in all the cases you've described, the answer should be no. You publish

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-28 Thread poisondart
Thanks for the replies. They have been very helpful. I'll have to read through the licenses you've listed in more detail, but the creative commons license of which James William Pye mentions seems to be what I'll be using. The reason why I need people to review my code and also t

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-28 Thread Robert Kern
program I wrote for review (and critique) and > testing on other platforms, but also I would like to explore the > different software licenses that are available (there seems to be > many). Since the specification for the programs is knowledge-centric > (related to linguistics), I need a

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-28 Thread Ivan Voras
poisondart wrote: > Ultimately I desire two things from the license (but not limited to): > - being able to distribute it freely, anybody can modify it > - nobody is allowed to make profit from my code (other than myself) GPL does something like this, except it doesn't forbid anyone to sell the

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-27 Thread James William Pye
ns.org. The no-commercial use license sounds like it might be what you are looking for. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-27 Thread Terry Reedy
"poisondart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > testing on other platforms, but also I would like to explore the > different software licenses that are available (there seems to be There is an Open Software Foundation (or something close) wi

Software licenses and releasing Python programs for review

2005-05-27 Thread poisondart
g on other platforms, but also I would like to explore the different software licenses that are available (there seems to be many). Since the specification for the programs is knowledge-centric (related to linguistics), I need a group of people that are knowledgeable in this area. Is there a place w