Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On 2005-10-26, Tim Golden wrote: > [Sybren Stuvel] > > Tim Golden enlightened us with: >> > Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point >> > out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a >> > workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread James Stroud
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 07:20, Tim Golden wrote: > I'm sure you're right: given moderately naive users, a Windows box > is *extremely* likely to be zombified. It's just that it doesn't > have to be that way with the proper care and attention. With $200 dollars of antivirus software (on top of

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: > Well, fair enough. Although I don't think that on its own this > constitutes "rubbish". True - it's just one of the reasons that shift its status toward rubishness ;-) > Not quite sure what this means. As in ANSI support? (Perfectly true > - definitely lacking th

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim G
Thomas Heller wrote: > FYI, if you don't know this already: You also can resize the console without > going through the properties menu with 'mode con cols=... lines=...'. Good grief! I haven't used "mode con" in years; forgotten it even existed! Thanks for bringing that back, Thomas. TJG -- ht

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not > that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least > read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell > from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a > Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to reca

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread skip
Tim> I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention of recalling Tim> history etc. etc. When I've tried using them, they all seem Tim> tiresomely cumbersome ... That's not at all surprising (at least not to me). An important point to realize is that readline's command recall is

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Giovanni Dall'Olio] Tim Golden ha scritto: [... bash vs Win command-line ...] > Argh!! ;) > How about reading a simple tutorial on bash? [... snip signs of aggravation over my ignorance ...] I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention of recalling history etc. etc. When I've tried usi

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Heller
"Tim Golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Sybren Stuvel] >> You can't resize it horizontally > > Well, peculiarly, you can do this (as you're probably aware) from > the Properties menu and it'll work immediately, albeit without > advising the running programs that it's resized, so only new > li

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Tim Golden] > Just occasionally you read posts from people who say (synthesised) > "The Windows command line is rubbish", [Sybren Stuvel] > It is. Let me give an example. I have the following files: [.. snip example of finding .somefile when you type som ..] Well, fair enough. Although I don't

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: > Well yes. I think the (only slightly) wider point I was making was > that -- despite goodwill and several attempts on my part -- Linux > still has not overpowered me with its usefulness. I have yet to see any OS that overpowers me with its usefulness. > Extending

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Giovanni Dall'Olio
Tim Golden ha scritto: > As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), > I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, > including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of > me get readline to do: you can type the first few

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden enlightened us with: > But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and > I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall > line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 > etc. Or can you? [Sybren] With bash as well as the Py

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: > But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and > I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall > line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 > etc. Or can you? With bash as well as the Python inte

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Sybren Stuvel] [Tim Golden] > > It's obvious that everyone has a different way of working, and that > > I'm more comfortable in Windows because all sorts of small > > familiarities > So what I read in your post is that you simply don't want to leave > your familiar environment. Fair enough. Wel

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oops, stand corrected. As I don't use the feature more than ctrl-r and up/down arrow. Tim Golden wrote: > Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not > that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least > read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell > from m

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden wrote: > As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), > I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, > including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of > me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters

OT: Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Jeremy Jones
Tim Golden wrote: >As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), >I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, >including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of >me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: > Not quite fair. Not only would I avoid saying something with a > redundant apostrophe ;) but the Windows user interface, at least for > my purposes, didn't change such a huge amount between Win9x and > Win2K, Hence my reference to windows 3.1. > It's obvious that

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Tim Golden: > As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), > I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, > including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of > me get readline to do: you can type the first few lett

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Golden wrote: > As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), > I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, > including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of > me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters

Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Sybren Stuvel] Tim Golden enlightened us with: > > Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point > > out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a > > workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest > > effort -- I end up back in Windows